From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Oct 1 15:10:07 1997 From: "SL. Harding" Message-Id: <199710011334.OAA13488@irix.bris.ac.uk> Subject: Give us an unsubscribing hand! To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no (sam users) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:34:28 +0000 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 362 Lines: 10 I spent ages last term trying to unsubscribe, this account from this list without unsubscribing my other one first because of how the gateway messes about with the reply address. So could someone in the know please unsubscribe sh5655@irix.bris.ac.uk and leave sh5655@harrier.fen.bris.ac.uk (-annonyingly shortened to sh5655@bris.ac.uk) on the list! C9 Numbly. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Oct 1 19:04:58 1997 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <80256523.00322100.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:24:21 +0100 Subject: Wow... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 581 Lines: 17 Okie... My SAM is now with me in Watford, it's been powered up and SAM Sequencer's been loaded and played with and it's not bad at all..... Already it's done something I couldn't get my PC + Any-sequencer-I've-tried-on-it to do: get a tune recorded into my keyboards internal memory for use with the Guide-light function without the data getting currupted somehow making my keyboard think it's getting millions of Program Change commands... Now I have no excuse in getting my stand-alone MIDI programs written.... (or even to actually learning to play the keyboard). Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 3 16:51:29 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:41:05 GMT+0 Subject: At last... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <195CF4BB2@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 232 Lines: 10 Thanks to Ian for helping me get back on here. Hope everybody's had a good summer... [dare I ask] - whats new then? Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Gooses...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." From imc Sat Oct 4 00:13:21 1997 Subject: Re: Hi To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 00:13:21 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: from "Ian Dalziel" at Sep 29, 97 05:15:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 249 Lines: 7 On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:15:18 +0100, Ian Dalziel said: > Er... You appear to be telling him via the list how to subscribe to the > list. I think I discern a tiny problem there... I did send him a copy as well though, if you check the headers. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 6 15:58:50 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:44:38 GMT+0 Subject: Thanks for the memories... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <227E3033C@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 296 Lines: 12 Thanks for everyones help on how to get on the list. As you can now see, I've done it. So, please, no more mail... :) Quiet this year isn't it? Anyone know when the next show is? Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Gooses...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." From imc Mon Oct 6 16:05:09 1997 Subject: Re: Thanks for the memories... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:05:09 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <227E3033C@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> from "The Mad Goose" at Oct 6, 97 03:44:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 152 Lines: 6 On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:44:38 GMT+0, The Mad Goose said: > Quiet this year isn't it? Anyone know when the next show is? In just under three weeks. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 6 17:37:10 1997 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:34:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Paveley To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Thanks for the memories... In-Reply-To: <227E3033C@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 222 Lines: 10 On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, The Mad Goose wrote: >Quiet this year isn't it? Anyone know when the next show is? 25th Oct 1997 Doors open 10:30 I think. So is it time for that old chestnut about wearing namebadges yet :) ....@/ From imc Mon Oct 6 17:40:50 1997 Subject: Delivery Error To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:40:50 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 302 Lines: 13 Calling Dan Doore... Are you there?... > A message To: dandoore@bacg.com > From: -maiser-@bacg > Subject: Message Not Delivered > > Produced the following MHS/SMF delivery notification: > > 255: Unknown error Your mailer daemon should send errors to the list owner, not to me. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 6 19:44:05 1997 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:38:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Gouranga@aol.com Message-ID: <971006143311_659679516@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Thanks for the memories... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 532 Lines: 10 > So is it time for that old chestnut about wearing namebadges yet :) Or how about the new chestnut about who's going to do the whole Gloucester experience - Stefan can't make it, unless he gets otherwise persuaded..., and I guess it's too far for Si to come, but myself, Colin A and Ian Slavin are all up for it. I do believe both Friday and Saturday night are available for pub crawls, and the usual Colin Macdonald B&B booking agency is available to save people paying 40 quid for a bed, eh dan?.... CM - email DigAdd@aol.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 7 09:30:29 1997 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:19:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Paveley To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Thanks for the memories... In-Reply-To: <971006143311_659679516@emout16.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 830 Lines: 18 On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 Gouranga@aol.com wrote: >> So is it time for that old chestnut about wearing namebadges yet :) >Or how about the new chestnut about who's going to do the whole Gloucester >experience - Stefan can't make it, unless he gets otherwise persuaded..., and You put a gun to his head and say "stefan come to gloucester or you're dead." >I guess it's too far for Si to come, but myself, Colin A and Ian Slavin are >all up for it. I do believe both Friday and Saturday night are available for >pub crawls, and the usual Colin Macdonald B&B booking agency is available to >save people paying 40 quid for a bed, eh dan?.... Hmmm, actually, I might be able to do saturday night, maybe, depends on what state of moving house I'm in. I've always wondered what it's liked to be glared at in all the local clubs :) ....@/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Oct 11 16:39:54 1997 Message-Id: <199710111532.RAA18154@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: Sam users Subject: A bit quiet is it?..... Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 17:33:18 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 203 Lines: 6 Where is everybody? or did i somehow unsubscribe myself from the list? Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] - Whats on the telly then? - - Looks like a penguin to me - Monty Python From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Oct 11 17:30:31 1997 Message-ID: <1B49D93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 17:00:00 +0100 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: A bit quiet is it?..... Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 442 Lines: 15 > Where is everybody? or did i somehow unsubscribe myself from the list? Things have gone a bit dead I grant you, don't tell me the stoodents are *working* :) :) Anyway, Gloucester Show on the 25th - who's up for the blag? Mr MacD, can you secure me a room in the local hostel - if there's any left that will take us that is :) Dan. [Only 2.5 hours until the big footy match, question is will I get out of work in time....] From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Oct 11 17:55:15 1997 Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 17:50:22 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <1B49D93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> from "Dan Doore" at Oct 11, 97 05:00:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19971011165053Z49603-8033+1862@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 434 Lines: 12 Alas, I'm not up for the blag this time... However... if and when I get a machine which can actually do the biz here (you wouldn't believe the system I'm working on at the moment -- bloody win 3.1 machines) I've got a rather evil looking photo of Colin and Dan from last time :) Now... how much will you give me to keep it /off/ the internet? :) Cookie ps. Colin -- flew delta, didn't get chance to do the BA challenge. *sigh* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Oct 11 19:25:25 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710111532.RAA18154@mailserv.caiw.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 19:19:18 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 211 Lines: 8 >Where is everybody? or did i somehow unsubscribe myself from the list? > >Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics >[rjvveeke@caiw.nl] >- Whats on the telly then? - >- Looks like a penguin to me - Monty Python From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Oct 11 19:34:50 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710111532.RAA18154@mailserv.caiw.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 19:29:54 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 523 Lines: 17 Oops sorry about the previous post... >Where is everybody? or did i somehow unsubscribe myself from the list? I was beginning to wonder whether my "subscribe" message had really worked or not... Hello, nice to see you all again, and all the other greetings blah blah blah... Sorry, I'm not sure I'll be able to come to Gloucester this time. Unless somebody decides to take their car via Cambridge of course, any chance? Did anything interesting happen over summer? Andrew PS. Must remember to sort out a sig file... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Oct 12 11:20:16 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:11:31 GMT+0 Subject: RE: A bit quiet is it?..... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <29846661CD@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 878 Lines: 29 > Thanks for using NetForward! > http://www.netforward.com > v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v > > > > Where is everybody? or did i somehow unsubscribe myself from the list? > > Things have gone a bit dead I grant you, don't tell me the stoodents are > *working* :) :) Fat chance of that! No, we're not working - there is just NOTHING to talk about is there? Anyone know of any new projects that will see the light before Christmas? > > Anyway, Gloucester Show on the 25th - who's up for the blag? > > Mr MacD, can you secure me a room in the local hostel - if there's any > left that will take us that is :) > > Dan. > > [Only 2.5 hours until the big footy match, question is will I get out of > work in time....] > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Gooses...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Oct 12 11:43:31 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:38:04 GMT+0 Subject: There's a thought... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <29E64B7485@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 303 Lines: 13 Just had a thought... What ever happened to the SAMSon project? Did it end up becoming the vapourware that one certain person on this list hated so much? Or is it still crawling along? Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Gooses...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 13 07:24:14 1997 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:19:34 +0100 From: ft@edh.ericsson.se (Frode Tenneboe) Message-Id: <9710130619.AA19204@asmal.edh-net> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 93 Lines: 5 > Alas, I'm not up for the blag this time... If anybody wondered, neither am I. :( -Frode From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 13 12:29:38 1997 Message-Id: <199710131121.MAA19508@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:20:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: There's a thought... In-reply-to: <29E64B7485@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 72 Lines: 3 > What ever happened to the SAMSon project? I built it. It works fine. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 13 12:45:09 1997 Message-Id: <199710131129.NAA16963@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:31:14 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1292 Lines: 30 > Van: The Mad Goose > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: RE: A bit quiet is it?..... > Datum: Sunday, October 12, 1997 12:11 > Fat chance of that! No, we're not working - there is just NOTHING to > talk about is there? Anyone know of any new projects that will see > the light before Christmas? Martijn Groen and I have been fooling around with the joysticksplitter, a new gadget made by Edwin Blink, works perfectly. And as Edwin said, don't open it to have peek inside, there is a fat chance that you will not able to put it back together again. And for IDE-interface made by Edwin, very impressive, sleek and it fits with an HD inside the SAM, there goes another white box.... :) And it is fast, 90kb per seccond accoording to Edwin, more than enough to do realtime de-samples from the harddisk, 7 full screens per seccond. As for software, Stratosphere? any comments, I find the pricetag way to high. I know that it takes time to write games but..... It is a conversion of a older Mac-game, and it is best played in a network, there is no network option in this game (if i am not mistaken). BTW: where is Fred 81???? Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] - Whats on the telly then? - - Looks like a penguin to me - Monty Python From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 13 13:04:12 1997 Message-ID: <19971013115804.12812.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.20.22] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 04:58:04 PDT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1347 Lines: 33 >From: Robert van der Veeke >As for software, Stratosphere? any comments, I find the pricetag way to >high. I know that it takes time to write games but..... It is a conversion >of a older Mac-game, and it is best played in a network, there is no >network option in this game (if i am not mistaken). Stratosphere is not simply a conversion of an old mac game. The original inspiration behind Stratosphere was obviously from Spectre but I have added a lot of my own ideas and it's turned out rather different from the mac Spectre. Colin Piggot. +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Colin Piggot | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | Email your postal | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | address for 14+ page | | | booklet about products | HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR SAM | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | QUAZAR SURROUND soundcard... 16 bit sound on Sam! | | *NEW* - STRATOSPHERE - Mode 4 3d Action! | +--------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 13 14:07:59 1997 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:31:08 EDT From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: A bit quiet is it?..... Message-Id: <19971013123139Z49683-1687+364@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 820 Lines: 23 Date: 1997-10-13 13:23 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users >Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... >Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:31:14 +0100 > >And for IDE-interface made by Edwin, very impressive, sleek and it fits >with an HD inside the SAM, there goes another white box.... :) And it is >fast, 90kb per seccond accoording to Edwin, more than enough to do realtime >de-samples from the harddisk, 7 full screens per seccond. Does any one know where I can get details of this IDE er like would it be Malcolm? I'm sure I asked him to send some stuff about it but it was a long time ago and the way we both rabbit on while on the phone it's easy to forget things. Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 13 14:07:59 1997 Message-Id: <199710131223.OAA27363@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:25:00 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 866 Lines: 23 > Van: Colin Piggot > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... > Datum: Monday, October 13, 1997 12:58 > > Stratosphere is not simply a conversion of an old mac game. > > The original inspiration behind Stratosphere was obviously from > Spectre but I have added a lot of my own ideas and it's turned out > rather different from the mac Spectre. > No offence but at first look it looks just like "Spectre", it smells like "Spectre". I don't know how much of the people out there have ever played "Spectre" (i have). So my first impression was "Hey a Sam-version of Spectre". Anyway I still think that the pricetag is to high, but that is due the fact it supports Quazar methinks. Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] - Whats on the telly then? - - Looks like a penguin to me - Monty Python From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 13 14:18:50 1997 Message-ID: <19971013131310.12461.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.20.22] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 06:13:09 PDT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1654 Lines: 44 >From: Robert van der Veeke >> The original inspiration behind Stratosphere was obviously from >> Spectre but I have added a lot of my own ideas and it's turned out >> rather different from the mac Spectre. >> >No offence but at first look it looks just like "Spectre", it smells like >"Spectre". I don't know how much of the people out there have ever played >"Spectre" (i have). So my first impression was "Hey a Sam-version of >Spectre". > >Anyway I still think that the pricetag is to high, but that is due the fact >it supports Quazar methinks. (The soundcard is called the 'Quazar Surround'. Quazar is the company name) The fact that Stratosphere supports the Quazar Surround soundcard has nothing to do with the price at all. All of my software supports the Quazar Surround - rather obvious seeing as I created it and sell it. Colin Piggot. +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Colin Piggot | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | Email your postal | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | address for 14+ page | | | booklet about products | HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR SAM | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | QUAZAR SURROUND soundcard... 16 bit sound on Sam! | | *NEW* - STRATOSPHERE - Mode 4 3d Action! | +--------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 13 14:26:13 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710131223.OAA27363@mailserv.caiw.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:22:15 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 812 Lines: 19 >No offence but at first look it looks just like "Spectre", it smells like >"Spectre". I don't know how much of the people out there have ever played >"Spectre" (i have). So my first impression was "Hey a Sam-version of >Spectre". A Sam version of Spectre (especially an expanded one) is still pretty cool though. And after machine coding a complex game from scratch, I think Colin is entitled to try to make his money from it. After all, there probably won't be all that many sales these days will there? >Anyway I still think that the pricetag is to high, but that is due the fact >it supports Quazar methinks. ~~~ Is Stratosphere actually out then? Mine hasn't arrived, and I did pay for it at the last Gloucester show... See also Kabooomm, which I ordered at the show before that... Andrew From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 13 15:22:04 1997 Message-ID: <19971013141137.8826.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.20.22] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:11:33 PDT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1304 Lines: 35 >From: Andrew Collier >A Sam version of Spectre (especially an expanded one) is still pretty cool >though. And after machine coding a complex game from scratch, I think Colin >is entitled to try to make his money from it. After all, there probably >won't be all that many sales these days will there? > >Is Stratosphere actually out then? Mine hasn't arrived, and I did pay for >it at the last Gloucester show... See also Kabooomm, which I ordered at the >show before that... Yes, Stratosphere is out! Colin Piggot. +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Colin Piggot | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | Email your postal | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | address for 14+ page | | | booklet about products | HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR SAM | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | QUAZAR SURROUND soundcard... 16 bit sound on Sam! | | *NEW* - STRATOSPHERE - Mode 4 3d Action! | +--------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 13 22:53:38 1997 Message-ID: <344301B4.39EF@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:23:00 -0700 From: David Organization: Persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Persona Hard Drive Interface - (was Re: A bit quiet is it?.....) References: <199710131129.NAA16963@mailserv.caiw.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Length: 991 Lines: 26 Robert van der Veeke wrote: > And for IDE-interface made by Edwin, very impressive, sleek and it fits > with an HD inside the SAM, there goes another white box.... :) And it is > fast, 90kb per seccond accoording to Edwin, more than enough to do realtime > de-samples from the harddisk, 7 full screens per seccond. Malcolm Mackenzie, my Boss at Persona, actually had the IDE interface on show at the NSSS for those of you who missed it - as Edwin is part of the Persona team. In actuall fact, the Drive Malcolm had running was reaching speeds of more like 160K per second as opposed to 90K per second, so I suppose this is down to the actuall overall hard-drive speed. Currently, there is a Dos underway, which is progressing nicely - but as of yet there is no release date set for the drive as Malcolm does not want to make any unkept promises in regards to it. As regards to further details of the interface, further information will be released through Blitz when available. David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 14 14:40:10 1997 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:29:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Gouranga@aol.com Message-ID: <971014092610_-259979742@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 736 Lines: 17 > Mr MacD, can you secure me a room in the local hostel - if there's any > left that will take us that is :) Dan. Nice one big chap. Currently going through the "new job" throes, but everything should be sweet for the show - current nocturnal attendance at myself, yourself and the andertoned one. any other takers???? > Now... how much will you give me to keep it /off/ the internet? :) All the free beer you can drink. (at gloucester, which you can't make...) How's bagel-land doing anyway? > ps. Colin -- flew delta, didn't get chance to do the BA challenge. *sigh* Shame. Still, there's always the return trip, or you can amuse yourself for months by trying to find a yank that can outdrink a brit - takes some searching! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 17 18:28:33 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:15:54 GMT+0 Subject: Re: There's a thought... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <23FBA79CF@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 326 Lines: 16 > > What ever happened to the SAMSon project? > > I built it. It works fine. [roars of laughter] Great, so I'll send you some Esso tokens thro' the post and it's mine then... Bloody vapourware (/sarcasm) > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Gooses...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 17 19:30:37 1997 Message-Id: <199710171820.UAA06814@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: Sam users Subject: Acorn RGB-monitor? Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:19:30 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 308 Lines: 8 Martijn has problems with his monitor, in other words that monitor is no more. I can get a Acorn-RGB-monitor for him, is there any problem in connecting this thingie to a Sam. Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] - Whats on the telly then? - - Looks like a penguin to me - Monty Python From imc Fri Oct 17 19:32:35 1997 Subject: Re: Acorn RGB-monitor? To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:32:35 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <199710171820.UAA06814@mailserv.caiw.nl> from "Robert van der Veeke" at Oct 17, 97 08:19:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 176 Lines: 7 On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:19:30 +0100, Robert van der Veeke said: > - Whats on the telly then? - > - Looks like a penguin to me - Someone has Linux running on their telly? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 17 19:54:43 1997 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:44:40 +0200 (METDST) From: Allan Skillman X-Sender: allan@hpopl1.cern.ch To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Acorn RGB-monitor? In-Reply-To: <9710171832.AA26692@ruby.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1249 Lines: 33 Hi All, Just had a nice 'relexing' week decorating the spare room. Nice to see some talk on the mailing list. I should be at the Gloucester show, and like Andrew if anyone is driving this sort of way (east midlands) I'd be grateful for a list too! Updated version of SimCoupe should be out next week. > On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:19:30 +0100, Robert van der Veeke said: > > - Whats on the telly then? - > > - Looks like a penguin to me - > > Someone has Linux running on their telly? > > imc > I wonder how many Sam users will get this one Ian! regards Allan +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Now available! SimCoupe, the one and only SAM Coupe emulator | | ******* http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ajs/simcoupe ******* | +------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Allan Skillman | "There are five flavours of resons, the | | HEPP Group | elementary particles of magic : up, down, | | University College London | sideways, sex-appeal and peppermint." | | Email : ajs@hep.ucl.ac.uk | - Terry Pratchett (Lords and Ladies) | +------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 17 22:44:54 1997 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:34:34 +0100 (BST) From: Dave To: Sam users Subject: Re: Acorn RGB-monitor? In-Reply-To: <199710171820.UAA06814@mailserv.caiw.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 683 Lines: 19 I shouldn't think there'll be any difficulties connecting an RGB to the SAM. I've been looking at a similar problem myself. I'm living out in my second year and do not have a TV with me - thus meaning that I cannot bring a SAM to uni. However, I do have a pentium with an SMC super-VGA 14" monitor - would it be possible to connect this to the SAM SCART output? Anyone? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Fulton (D.A.Fulton@durham.ac.uk) Trevelyan College, University of Durham. http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d60m3c/ PGP public key available on request. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 09:15:22 1997 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <80256536.002C48B7.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:07:55 +0100 Subject: TurboMon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 199 Lines: 9 Hi guys, Anyone tell me the address to get a copy of TurboMon? I know I've already got a copy, but I left the printed manual at Leicester and I can't remember all the keys. Silly me, eh? Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 12:39:12 1997 From: Si Owen To: sam-users Subject: Re: TurboMon Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:59:31 +0100 Message-ID: <01bcdd47$3e3b4720$03a046c2@simon.wordcraft.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 354 Lines: 13 >Anyone tell me the address to get a copy of TurboMon? >I know I've already got a copy, but I left the printed manual at Leicester >and I can't remember all the keys. Silly me, eh? http://www.obobo.demon.co.uk/ Anyone want to add that link to their Sam Coupe web page? I wish I'd put a help screen in... I can't imagine memory was *that* tight! Si From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 12:39:12 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Acorn RGB-monitor? References: X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 20 Oct 1997 12:20:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: Allan Skillman's message of "Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:44:40 +0200 (METDST)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 475 Lines: 20 Allan Skillman writes: > > On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:19:30 +0100, Robert van der Veeke said: > > > - Whats on the telly then? - > > > - Looks like a penguin to me - > > > > Someone has Linux running on their telly? > > > > imc > > > I wonder how many Sam users will get this one Ian! > Me, I did, after all the penguin is _dead cute_ :) Lee. -- This is a bug in that version of Netscape. Upgrade to a previous version. (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 12:39:12 1997 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:01:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Paveley To: Sam users Subject: Re: Acorn RGB-monitor? In-Reply-To: <199710171820.UAA06814@mailserv.caiw.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1071 Lines: 25 On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Robert van der Veeke wrote: >Martijn has problems with his monitor, in other words that monitor is no >more. I can get a Acorn-RGB-monitor for him, is there any problem in >connecting this thingie to a Sam. As far as I know, the acorn monitor is simply a badged phillips one, at least my friend has an A410(opr something like that), and we decided his monitor and mine were almost exactly the same. However, I know mine has Scart input (which is what I use), and also has the two phono sockets for audio/video, as well as a DIN. If it has either of those I think you should have no problem, though worth remembering that the sam requires a non-standard scart lead. --- Aside: Just found a place to line in cheltenham. Hopefully will move in on friday, so see quite a few of you at the show! --- Tim ....@/ .........................................................................@/ Unc - Tim Paveley - http://dplinux.sund.ac.uk/~unc/ Staff of the Monochrome BBS - http://www.mono.org/ Owner of a Sam Coupe - http://www.mono.org/~unc/Coupe/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 15:35:49 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:01:21 GMT+0 Subject: SCREEN$ to JPG or GIF X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <392C55095@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 256 Lines: 9 I realise this question probably comes up all the bloody time, but is there any way of converting SCREEN$ to GIF's. Greatful of any help... Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Gooses...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." From imc Mon Oct 20 15:39:43 1997 Subject: Re: SCREEN$ to JPG or GIF To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:39:43 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <392C55095@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> from "The Mad Goose" at Oct 20, 97 03:01:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 389 Lines: 10 On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:01:21 GMT+0, The Mad Goose said: > I realise this question probably comes up all the bloody time, but is > there any way of converting SCREEN$ to GIF's. http://www.comlab.ox.ac.uk/oucl/users/ian.collier/Misc/samtoppm.c is a quick hack which converts a mode 4 Sam screen into a PPM file (which is understood by various Unix utilities such as xv and NetPBM). imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 16:51:43 1997 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <80256536.00544684.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:38:23 +0100 Subject: Re: TurboMon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 333 Lines: 17 Cheers Si, >>>>>>>>>>>> I wish I'd put a help screen in... I can't imagine memory was *that* tight! <<<<<<<<<<<< Yes.. Why didn't you? :) I like it anyway.. It's already solved more than one of my coding problems so far... There were a few other features that I would've liked, but I can't think of them right now... Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 17:18:59 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <392C55095@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:43:59 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: SCREEN$ to JPG or GIF X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 683 Lines: 20 >I realise this question probably comes up all the bloody time, but is >there any way of converting SCREEN$ to GIF's. > >Greatful of any help... There's certainly a Mode4<->BMP converter, which I think has been on FRED sometime. After that you should be able to find PC or Mac software to convert it into a GIF or whatever else. Andrew +--------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | | 1B NatSci @ Selwyn College Cambridge | " +--------------------------------------+ Get your kicks | mailto:asc25@cam.ac.uk | on 8.124038405 | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk/ | " +--------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 18:53:09 1997 Subject: Re: SCREEN$ to JPG or GIF To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:02:57 +0100 (BST) Cc: Simon.Cooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Cooke) In-Reply-To: <392C55095@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> from "The Mad Goose" at Oct 20, 97 03:01:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19971020160342Z49484-22146+529@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 533 Lines: 15 > > I realise this question probably comes up all the bloody time, but is > there any way of converting SCREEN$ to GIF's. > Well... at one point I uploaded my SAM to BMP converter to Dalmation BBS... I Don't have my discs with me here in the states, unfortunately... So... if Paul Walker has a copy, (or anyone else), you could use that to convert the SAM file to a Windows .bmp file, and then convert that to a GIF on the PC -- which is how I got the screenshots on my site done. Love n hugs to those back in Blighty :) Si From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 18:53:10 1997 Subject: Re: SCREEN$ to JPG or GIF To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:05:44 +0100 (BST) Cc: Simon.Cooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Cooke) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Oct 20, 97 03:43:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19971020160624Z49380-22146+532@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 728 Lines: 23 > > >I realise this question probably comes up all the bloody time, but is > >there any way of converting SCREEN$ to GIF's. > > > >Greatful of any help... > > There's certainly a Mode4<->BMP converter, which I think has been on FRED > sometime. After that you should be able to find PC or Mac software to > convert it into a GIF or whatever else. > Oh yeah.. that'as a point... My BMP converter will convert Mode 1, MOde 2, Mode 4 screens without any hassle. The only problem is that Mode 3 screens will convert, but Microsoft didn't specify when they documented the BMP spec that "bits per pixel" means "1 bit, 4 bits or 8 bits... not 2 bits you bloody ignoramous." So it kind of falls over on Mode 3 screens. Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 21:29:58 1997 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:16:29 -0400 (EDT) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971020161104_1077713040@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 317 Lines: 14 In a message dated 11/10/97 16:51:18, you write: >Alas, I'm not up for the blag this time... > >However... if and when I get a machine which can actually do the biz here >(you wouldn't believe the system I'm working on at the moment -- bloody >win 3.1 machines Well at least its not windoze 95. [snip] -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 22:22:21 1997 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:17:06 +0100 Message-Id: <01bcdd9d$84c15d00$1e14a8c2@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 630 Lines: 25 -----Original Message----- From: BrenchleyR@aol.com To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: 20 October 1997 21:38 Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... >In a message dated 11/10/97 16:51:18, you write: > >>Alas, I'm not up for the blag this time... >> >>However... if and when I get a machine which can actually do the biz here >>(you wouldn't believe the system I'm working on at the moment -- bloody >>win 3.1 machines > >Well at least its not windoze 95. > >[snip] > >-- >Bob. Oh, well watch you don't fall off that bandwagon Bob. Some people actually think its better than Win 3.1x... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 22:32:05 1997 Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:26:40 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <01bcdd9d$84c15d00$1e14a8c2@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> from "SparkY" at Oct 20, 97 10:17:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19971020212659Z49510-22146+816@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 469 Lines: 14 > Oh, well watch you don't fall off that bandwagon Bob. Some people actually > think its better than Win 3.1x... > I'd agree with you there -- though NT is the mecca of the moment... 95 and NT both suffer from being written in C++ and C though... there's no way that these systems should need so much memory and disk space... Apart from that though... heck... they're even better than Macs... (much much better... Macs don't appear to be intuitive at all) Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 23:49:09 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19971020212659Z49510-22146+816@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> References: <01bcdd9d$84c15d00$1e14a8c2@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> from "SparkY" at Oct 20, 97 10:17:06 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:41:45 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 692 Lines: 25 >95 and NT both suffer from being written in C++ and C though... there's >no way that these systems should need so much memory and disk space... > >Apart from that though... heck... they're even better than Macs... > >(much much better... Macs don't appear to be intuitive at all) > >Simon Hmmmmm. Aren't we getting a little off-topic? Andrew +--------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | | 1B NatSci @ Selwyn College Cambridge | " +--------------------------------------+ Get your kicks | mailto:asc25@cam.ac.uk | on 8.124038405 | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk/ | " +--------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 23:57:17 1997 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 22:13:52 GMT Message-ID: <563_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 582 Lines: 28 In E-Mail <01bcdd9d$84c15d00$1e14a8c2@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> "SparkY" wrote:- >>Well at least its not windoze 95. > >Oh, well watch you don't fall off that bandwagon Bob. Some people actually >think its better than Win 3.1x... > I believe there's a name for those people.... "Microsoft Employees". ;) __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "Lisa, vampires are make-believe, just like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Friday.. maybe. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 20 23:57:17 1997 Message-ID: <344C4F37.15C7@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:44:07 -0700 From: David Organization: Persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... References: <01bcdd9d$84c15d00$1e14a8c2@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> from "SparkY" at Oct 20, 97 10:17:06 pm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 594 Lines: 24 Andrew Collier wrote: > > >95 and NT both suffer from being written in C++ and C though... there's > >no way that these systems should need so much memory and disk space... > > > >Apart from that though... heck... they're even better than Macs... > > > >(much much better... Macs don't appear to be intuitive at all) > > > >Simon > > Hmmmmm. > > Aren't we getting a little off-topic? > > Andrew True, but at least people are actually talking again now ....! BTW I agree with you Simon, too much easy work with C on these systems ... mind you, it'd take a lot of work in Assembler! David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 06:36:59 1997 Message-Id: <199710210528.HAA13206@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: SCREEN$ to JPG or GIF Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:46:16 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 682 Lines: 17 > Van: The Mad Goose > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: SCREEN$ to JPG or GIF > Datum: Monday, October 20, 1997 4:01 > > I realise this question probably comes up all the bloody time, but is > there any way of converting SCREEN$ to GIF's. > SAMtoBMP wich was on one the Fred disks and works perfectly, from BMP you can convert it to anything you want. KE-disk can also convert screen$ to Atari ST neochrome, wich you can dump directly to a MS-dos disk (one minor detail, ke-disk enlarges the image-size to 320x200). Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] - Whats on the telly then? - - Looks like a penguin to me - Monty Python From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 07:03:52 1997 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:49:55 +0100 (BST) From: Si Owen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: TurboMon In-Reply-To: <80256536.00544684.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Message-ID: X-Organisation: Wordcraft International Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1256 Lines: 34 On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 Justin_Skists@case.co.uk wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > I wish I'd put a help screen in... I can't imagine memory was *that* tight! > <<<<<<<<<<<< > > Yes.. Why didn't you? :) I was originally going for the Multiface feel and thought I could get away without one (sadly mistaken). I've not used it for months, and can only remember a few of the keys. The ones that I can never remember are the conditional executions on CTRL-Fx (I think). > I like it anyway.. It's already solved more than one of my coding problems > so far... :-) > There were a few other features that I would've liked, but I can't think of > them right now... If Si Cooke can remember the problem regarding something to do with Interrupts I may get round to doing a re-build sometime. I don't know of any bugs except that, unless someone knows different...? Si /------------------------------------+----------------------------------------\ | Si Owen | Home: si@obobo.demon.co.uk | | Wordcraft International Ltd, UK | Work: sowen@wordcraft.co.uk | | Fax: +44-1332-295525 | WWW: www.obobo.demon.co.uk | \------------------------------------+----------------------------------------/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 07:26:57 1997 Message-Id: <199710210619.IAA29110@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: Sam users Subject: Where is my mail dammit? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:51:21 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 247 Lines: 7 I send a email to the list at 17.46 (GMT+1), where is it? it is now 20.50 and it still not showing up at the list. Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] - Whats on the telly then? - - Looks like a penguin to me - Monty Python From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 09:38:54 1997 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:30:35 EDT From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: A bit quiet is it?..... Message-Id: <19971021083105Z49404-22146+1176@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1144 Lines: 45 Date: 1997-10-21 09:27 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:26:40 +0100 (BST) >From: Simon Cooke > >> Oh, well watch you don't fall off that bandwagon Bob. Some people actually >> think its better than Win 3.1x... >> Some people try 95 point to one little difference and say the whole thing is crap. I actually like 95 ] > >I'd agree with you there -- though NT is the mecca of the moment... Ah yes. NT. Use that here at work. caNT set the clock caNT run X windows caNT change the start menu caNT do any of the things you want. caNT run any games caNT set your config (ok I know it's not NT it the stupid security bods round here) > >95 and NT both suffer from being written in C++ and C though... there's >no way that these systems should need so much memory and disk space... But if you didn't use the memory and disk it would just be wasted - wouldn't it ? :) Nev -- thought for today The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 11:39:38 1997 Message-ID: <5764D93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:23:00 +0100 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: A bit quiet is it?..... Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 228 Lines: 12 > >I'd agree with you there -- though NT is the mecca of the moment... > > Ah yes. NT. Use that here at work. > > (ok I know it's not NT it the stupid security bods round here) Absolute heaven. :) Dan (with NT Admin hat on) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 13:49:13 1997 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:36:36 EDT From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: A bit quiet is it?..... Message-Id: <19971021123720Z49391-22146+1287@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 716 Lines: 26 Date: 1997-10-21 13:31 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:23:00 +0100 >From: Dan Doore >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) >Subject: RE: A bit quiet is it?..... > > >> >I'd agree with you there -- though NT is the mecca of the moment... >> >> Ah yes. NT. Use that here at work. >> >> (ok I know it's not NT it the stupid security bods round here) > >Absolute heaven. >Dan (with NT Admin hat on) Well doNT just sit there put me clock right. It's beeNTen minuits fast for the past two weeks :( nev - (reduced to the status of "end user") btw Dan have you tried http://www.jsiinc.com/reghack.htm From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 15:25:43 1997 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:40:00 +0100 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: A bit quiet is it?..... Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 563 Lines: 37 > Well doNT just sit there put me clock right. It's beeNTen minuits fas= t =20 for > the past two weeks :( settime \\timesvr Does that work? :) Get your admin to: a) Put a settime in his logon/kixtart script or... b) Stop setting the server time by his Casio :) We take out time from an IBM GlobalNet Router - so it's never right :) = :) =20 :) > nev - (reduced to the status of "end user") Bad news mate. > btw Dan have you tried http://www.jsiinc.com/reghack.htm "Windows NT =A9 Tips, Registry Hacks, and More......... " Cool.... Ta Nev. Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 16:34:41 1997 Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:09:29 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <19971021123720Z49391-22146+1287@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" at Oct 21, 97 08:36:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19971021150943Z49384-22146+1395@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 206 Lines: 9 > >Absolute heaven. > >Dan (with NT Admin hat on) BTW: I've got a picture of you wearing quite a different hat :) (will email it to you - you can then put it on your web page if you want... :) ) Cookie From imc Tue Oct 21 17:16:48 1997 Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:16:48 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <19971020212659Z49510-22146+816@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from "Simon Cooke" at Oct 20, 97 10:26:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 566 Lines: 16 On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:26:40 +0100 (BST), Simon Cooke said: > > Oh, well watch you don't fall off that bandwagon Bob. Some people actually > > think its better than Win 3.1x... Win95 is indeed better than 3.1, which is just horrible. > I'd agree with you there -- though NT is the mecca of the moment... "Does Windows NT stand for Windows --NOT?" > 95 and NT both suffer from being written in C++ and C though... there's > no way that these systems should need so much memory and disk space... However, Linux is also written in C and it's lean and mean. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 17:45:47 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Oops, big off-topic X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 21 Oct 1997 17:34:29 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 443 Lines: 19 I know this is off-topic but I'd really like your help. I'm writing an X-Windows browser for my final year project and part of the project is researching current browsers so if any of you have the time I'd be grateful if you could visit http://yawn.nocrew.pp.se/ and fill in the questionnaire. Thanks Lee. Hey maybe I'll port it to sam when I get mine back ;) -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 17:55:27 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9710211616.AA06380@ruby.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <19971020212659Z49510-22146+816@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from "Simon Cooke" at Oct 20, 97 10:26:40 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:45:23 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 666 Lines: 21 Ian said: >> 95 and NT both suffer from being written in C++ and C though... there's >> no way that these systems should need so much memory and disk space... > >However, Linux is also written in C and it's lean and mean. Large chunks of '95 are written in VisualBasic, maybe that could be why it's so bloated. Andrew +--------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | | 1B NatSci @ Selwyn College Cambridge | " +--------------------------------------+ Get your kicks | mailto:asc25@cam.ac.uk | on 8.124038405 | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk/ | " +--------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 19:21:09 1997 Message-Id: <199710211812.TAA21551@mail.enterprise.net> From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave Whitmore) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-FTN-To: Simon Cooke Subject: SCREEN$ to JPG or GIF Date: 21 Oct 1997 19:10:50 Organization: Dalmation enterprises References: <19971020160342Z49484-22146+529@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-newsreader: Spot 1.3 #1234 X-mailer: NetGate 1.3 (Amiga; TCP/IP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1394 Lines: 32 In a message of 20 Oct 97 Simon Cooke wrote to sam-users@nvg.unit.no: Hi Simon, SC> Well... at one point I uploaded my SAM to BMP converter to Dalmation SC> BBS... You didn't actually. I stole it from one of your disks and put it on myself! If I remember right there was a slight buglet in the external memory batch conversion, but that's easily fixed (if you know how), and it's probably the best screen converter I've used. PAK'd it comes down to 2247 bytes, so if anyone wants a copy emailing over I don't mind (or I might stick it in the webspace next update). It is still on the BBS too. SC> I Don't have my discs with me here in the states, unfortunately... Aww diddums :) SC> So... if Paul Walker has a copy, (or anyone else), you could use that SC> to convert the SAM file to a Windows .bmp file, and then convert that SC> to a GIF on the PC -- which is how I got the screenshots on my site SC> done. I used it to convert the old SAM Adventure Club disk loading piccies, which are on my site ATM. Take a look - something like: http://homepages.enterprise.net/davewhitmore/advlink.htlm Byeee, _ -------------------------------------- |_)ave | Dalmation - Saturdays 12 till 10 pm | (/\)hitmore | | | UK 01744 614150 | -------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 21 19:57:19 1997 Message-ID: <344CF9AC.33E6@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:51:24 +0100 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Oops, big off-topic References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 878 Lines: 23 Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > > I know this is off-topic but I'd really like your help. > > I'm writing an X-Windows browser for my final year project and part of > the project is researching current browsers so if any of you have the > time I'd be grateful if you could visit > > http://yawn.nocrew.pp.se/ > Why not do some research starting at http://www.rahul.net/kenton/xsites.html#XMicrosoft -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From imc Wed Oct 22 12:46:55 1997 Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:46:55 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Oct 21, 97 05:45:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 233 Lines: 7 On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:45:23 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > Large chunks of '95 are written in VisualBasic, maybe that could be why > it's so bloated. Huh? Which bits? (And isn't object code usually larger than source code?) imc From imc Wed Oct 22 12:47:49 1997 Subject: Re: Oops, big off-topic To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:47:49 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: from "Uncle Bulgaria" at Oct 21, 97 05:34:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 195 Lines: 6 On 21 Oct 1997 17:34:29 +0100, Uncle Bulgaria said: > I'm writing an X-Windows browser for my final year project Why would you want to browse X-Windows? (Are they the same as X windows?) imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Oct 22 13:10:44 1997 From: Si Owen To: sam-users Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:03:14 +0100 Message-ID: <01bcdee2$79f86b70$03a046c2@simon.wordcraft.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 392 Lines: 15 > Win95 is indeed better than 3.1, which is just horrible. Going back to Win3.1x with a fast Pentium and oodles of RAM it's lightning fast! > "Does Windows NT stand for Windows --NOT?" I heard it was 'Nice Try'... probably a Linux user that said it :-) Having said that, I use NT all the time in work as it's much more stable than Win95 for development (but not as good as Linux)! Si From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Oct 22 14:08:35 1997 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 14:00:04 +0100 (BST) From: Allan Skillman To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Release of SimCoupe Version 0.72 (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2005 Lines: 54 Hello All, I'm sending this out as a general mail to all the people who, in the past, have contacted me regarding SimCoupe, my Sam Coupe emulator. I have just released the latest version of the code - version 0.72. For DOS, the emulator is available in both binary and source form for DJGPP v2. The UNIX version is available as usual for X11 and Linux VGA. >From the ChangeLog : Version 0.7.1 (10-Sep-1997) DOS binary release to Sam users mailing list o Split DOS display driver into memory mapped and memory copy versions. SimCoupe now runs in Windows 3.1 and Windows 95 DOS boxes. Vesrion 0.7.2 (17-Oct-1997) o Tracked down bugs in keyboard driver, hopefully no more sticky keys o Pointer now removed in UI when mouse is not active o UI menus now have a '>' symbol to indicate a submenu option o Added Switch type to UI form object o UI keyboard code fixed and improved o Added more UI File slector functionality o DOS Fileselector '/' -> '\' problems fixed o Added Syncronisation timer, SimCoupe should now run at 50Hz on fast machines (run time switch -sync) The emultor should now run on just about all DOS machines, in pure DOS, and Windows 3.1 and 95 DOS boxes. It almost works in Windows NT, but the mouse driver crashes the program if a mouse interrupt is received. (ie don't move the mouse when SimCoupe is running!) All versions can be downloaded from my site : http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ajs/simcoupe regards Allan +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Allan Skillman | "There are five flavours of resons, the | | HEPP Group | elementary particles of magic : up, down, | | University College London | sideways, sex-appeal and peppermint." | | Email : ajs@hep.ucl.ac.uk | - Terry Pratchett (Lords and Ladies) | +------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Oct 22 17:44:36 1997 Message-Id: <344E2AFE.36A1@cableol.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:34:06 +0100 From: Gavin Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... References: <01bcdee2$79f86b70$03a046c2@simon.wordcraft.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 234 Lines: 10 Si Owen wrote: > > > Win95 is indeed better than 3.1, which is just horrible. > > Going back to Win3.1x with a fast Pentium and oodles of RAM it's lightning > fast! Umm, and what decent software are you going to use on it? Gavin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 23 14:27:22 1997 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <80256539.002C0BF0.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:12:35 +0100 Subject: A few Q's... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1222 Lines: 34 Hi peeps, Just a few questions:- 1) Does TurboMon succesfully cope with external memory? The manual mentions something about hardware changing the paging which would crash TurboMon. The reason I ask this is that, as a personal project, I'm going to add some external Flash and RAM to my SAM. (In fact an entire board of bits and peices that will grow in time). And on this theme, can TurboMon be run from external memory? (Although, I don't believe it can) 2) I got a blank page in my new copy of Format yesterday... 3) How different does the new style disk drives look from the old one. I'm thinking of getting a second drive in my SAM but I don't want it to look too odd.... 4) Part of the project mentioned in Q1 includes an operating system. Of course, it'll need to be able to access the disks. I remember hearing that SAMDos has a problem reading/writing a file one byte at a time. Is this still the case or does someone have a work-around? Does MasterDos suffer from the same problem? 5) Does the Quazar Surround also throw the output of SAM's internal soundchip out of the Surround Sound output rather than the telly? I think that's enough questions for now.... Justin. (Yay! I finally got my mobile!) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 23 15:23:53 1997 Message-ID: <19971023141749.29851.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.20.13] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A few Q's... Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:17:48 PDT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1041 Lines: 22 >5) Does the Quazar Surround also throw the output of SAM's internal >soundchip out of the Surround Sound output rather than the telly? No. The Quazar Surround only outputs it's own channels of sound. This way a lot of electrical noise on the outputs is avoided. Colin Piggot. +--------------------------------------------------------+ | QUAZAR SURROUND soundcard... *16 BIT* sound on Sam! | | *NEW* - STRATOSPHERE - Mode 4 3d Action! | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Colin Piggot | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | Email your postal | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | address for 14+ page | | | booklet about products | HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR SAM | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 24 10:47:28 1997 From: Si Owen To: sam-users Subject: Re: A few Q's... Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:37:47 +0100 Message-ID: <01bce060$7cbbb590$03a046c2@simon.wordcraft.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1694 Lines: 35 >1) Does TurboMon succesfully cope with external memory? The manual mentions >something about hardware changing the paging which would crash TurboMon. >The reason I ask this is that, as a personal project, I'm going to add some >external Flash and RAM to my SAM. (In fact an entire board of bits and >peices that will grow in time). And on this theme, can TurboMon be run from >external memory? (Although, I don't believe it can) Unfortunately not :-( I was a poor student at the time and couldn't afford a memory expansion to implement it. I thought it was better to leave it out than try and implement it and get it wrong! The same goes for mouse support too, although the mouse reads *may* work. About the only thing (AFAIK!) that you can do to crash TurboMON is to write to paging ports that it doesn't know about. All IN/OUT instructions to unknown ports are let through to the real ports to allow support for hardware that wasn't known at the time. Off-hand I can't remember how the extra memory was accessed. Was it just some extra bits written to another port that changed the 32 pages accessed through HMPR? If so, TurboMon will probably only work in the extra memory if the extra memory expansion pages are not changed by the program that it is debugging. Most of the time TurboMon sits in the first 32K of memory and uses the other 32K for paging memory used by the program. To access ROM0 it pages itself into the top 32K and calls a routine to page ROM0 in, does the read, and pages it back out again. This might cause problems if TurboMon tries to page its code in but the wrong bank is present for the ROM reads! If you try it, please let me know what happens! Si From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 24 16:47:22 1997 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: You all owe me money you stingy gits! Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:34:57 +0100 Message-Id: <01bce092$623ad0c0$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1445 Lines: 40 Well, not quite all of you, but some of you owe me a few things. Right! Here's the list of Sam related stuff I'm owed, perhaps someone can tell me why I haven't received them or had an apology or an explanation of any kind (in most cases)... Zodiac (any issue published since last October) - I sent off money for a sub in September 96 (he owed me one or two issues anyway). No reply. I've written to him since, other people have had a word with him, and still no reply! SAM_Clock - Money sent off in December or January. I'm fed up waiting Bob, I'll be writing to you asking for my money back. (Ooooh! etc.) Colony - Still haven't received it and its meant to have been out for ages - sent my money off a few months ago. Kaboom! - What the hell is going on with this?! Money was sent off last year as far as I can remember! X-Sights 3 - Money sent off late last year I think, got a letter saying the game would follow in a few weeks - nothing since. I've written to him, no reply. SAM Supplement - They owe me 3 issues I think - I only found out recently that the mag is still going - my last issue is issue 51 - anyone know what number they are up to now? FRED issue 81 - either its really late or I haven't received my copy yet... Conquest - I've practically given up... Based On An Idea - Simon? Crashed - haven't had an issue since April I think. I'm getting just a tad paranoid :) Something I've done to offend you all? Gavin From imc Fri Oct 24 17:34:11 1997 Subject: Re: A few Q's... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:34:11 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <80256539.002C0BF0.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> from "Justin_Skists@case.co.uk" at Oct 23, 97 02:12:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1100 Lines: 26 On Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:12:35 +0100, Justin_Skists@case.co.uk said: > 2) I got a blank page in my new copy of Format yesterday... That isn't a question. > 3) How different does the new style disk drives look from the old one. I'm > thinking of getting a second drive in my SAM but I don't want it to look > too odd.... Buy two of them. :-) > 4) Part of the project mentioned in Q1 includes an operating system. Of > course, it'll need to be able to access the disks. I remember hearing that > SAMDos has a problem reading/writing a file one byte at a time. Is this > still the case or does someone have a work-around? Does MasterDos suffer > from the same problem? I can't remember the details, but I have had severe difficulty in getting any of the hook codes to do anything at all. I do know that the read sector code works, after a fashion - it's quite slow and inflexible about where the data buffer is, and if there's no disk in it will wait until there is. I seem to remember that "open file" works in MasterDOS but not in SamDOS, but can't remember whether any of the others work. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 24 22:48:58 1997 Subject: Re: You all owe me money you stingy gits! To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:43:03 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <01bce092$623ad0c0$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> from "SparkY" at Oct 24, 97 04:34:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19971024214328Z49737-19241+1284@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 367 Lines: 15 > Based On An Idea - Simon? Well.. the moment I get a machine here that I can use to write things on (ie. that I can install MS Publisher, Corel Xara and MS Word 97 on), it'll go to press. Well, maybe a couple of days after that, but you get the idea. **sneeze** Don't come to America. All these people have the flu. >>>>Achhhhhhooooooooooooooooo<<<<< SImon From imc Sat Oct 25 20:45:12 1997 Subject: Back from the show To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:45:12 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 808 Lines: 18 Gee, am I the first person to post a message after getting back from the show? :-) I guess Colins are still down the pub and aren't coming back today. It was a poor turnout - in fact, half of Colin A's hair didn't turn up either. It took me some time to work out who the person with Colin Mac on the other side of the bus was. But they didn't recognise me either. I think attendance got up to double figures. Derek Morgan didn't arrive, as didn't Stefan, Andrew or anyone from Persona. Colin P was showing off with Stratosphere, and Colony (Colin-y?) was to be seen on the Fred stand. [I just got a battery low notice and had to fish the power pack out of my bag at high speed, and apmd *still* says the battery is 80% full!] I will probably have a green splodge on my hand for the next week... imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Oct 26 15:07:08 1997 Message-ID: <345359BB.E2A@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 14:54:52 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: You all owe me money you stingy gits! References: <01bce092$623ad0c0$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 953 Lines: 32 SparkY wrote: > > Well, not quite all of you, but some of you owe me a few things. Right! > Zodiac > SAM_Clock > Colony > Kaboom! > X-Sights 3 > SAM Supplement > FRED issue 81 > Conquest > Based On An Idea > Crashed > I'm getting just a tad paranoid :) Something I've done to offend you all? > Gavin Nev - smug :) And I think I've finally managed to get that bloody tune they were playing on the Quazar stand out of my head. Hope none / all of you get my cold. -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Oct 26 16:01:51 1997 Message-ID: <9A6ED93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:28:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: Back from the show Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 810 Lines: 30 > Gee, am I the first person to post a message after getting back from the > show? :-) I guess Colins are still down the pub and aren't coming back > today. Certainly are. We should all be back now, although this morning was a bit subdued. We also "lost" Sean Bernard after he went back to the B&B - I wonder if he got home today. > It was a poor turnout - in fact, half of Colin A's hair didn't turn up either. He nearly had what was left of his hair put through a concrete wall in the nightclub, more on this in the up and coming show report. > It took me some time to work out who the person with Colin Mac on the other > side of the bus was. But they didn't recognise me either. And I was sat behind you. You always could have turned around and said hello of something... Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Oct 26 16:01:51 1997 Message-ID: <9C6ED93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:32:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no (SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no}) Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 478 Lines: 22 > And I think I've finally managed to get that bloody tune they were > playing on the Quazar stand out of my head. All together now: # I'm a Barbie Girl, In a Barbie World # You can brush my hair, Undress me everywhere. # Come on Barbie, Let's go party! # Ooh Ooh Ooh [SNIP!] Even worse, they played it down the Avenue. Worse still, we were dancing to it.... > Hope none / all of you get my cold. I'll wait until my body starts working again and let you know :) Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Oct 26 16:23:04 1997 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:58:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no (SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no}) Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 865 Lines: 36 > Colony - Still haven't received it and its meant to have been out for ages - > sent my money off a few months ago. It was at the show, and Darren was selling it. > Kaboom! - What the hell is going on with this?! Money was sent off last year > as far as I can remember! Dunno, ask Mr Coles.... :) > FRED issue 81 - either its really late or I haven't received my copy yet... This wasn't at the show, Ando is still writing it... > Conquest - I've practically given up... Is this the Mungus one? I think I saw this at the *last* show... > Crashed - haven't had an issue since April I think. Stu has had a bit of a personal tragedy and hasn't been working on the due issue of Crashed, although Mark did have a new one with him. > I'm getting just a tad paranoid :) Something I've done to offend you all? Nah, we just hate you... ;-) Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Oct 26 21:37:09 1997 From: Stewart Skardon To: sam-users Subject: Re: You all owe me money you stingy gits Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 21:24:14 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1749 Lines: 56 ---------- > From: Dan Doore > To: SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no} > Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits > Date: 26 October 1997 15:58 > > [snip] >Is this the Mungus one? I think I saw this at the *last* show... > > > Crashed - haven't had an issue since April I think. > > Stu has had a bit of a personal tragedy and hasn't been working on > the due issue of Crashed, although Mark did have a new one with > him. > Issue number 19 of Crashed was published back in June. It had my first cover on it, the Road Runner one. If you didn't get it, I would assume that your subscription has run out, or you sent for it during the handover from Allan to Mark and myself. Mark would be the best person to ask. His Email address can be found on the Crashed Web Site, which has been given a small overhaul. As for issue 20, work is now under way again, and hopefully if nothing else manages to go wrong, I should have all the DTP work finished by next Weekend. > > I'm getting just a tad paranoid :) Something I've done to offend you > all? > I'm begining to feel the same way. I also ordered Kaboom! over a year ago now, and I also bought myself a copy of Magefire from Michael Stocks. Still no manual and still an early release version. Also, no offence Nev, but does everyone else on this list find that their IDE interface is useless. I can't get mine to save anything to the f@#king hard disk. :-( Or have there been any updates to the software that I've missed. (Cue the 'there was a new version at the show' posts.) > Nah, we just hate you... > > ;-) > > Dan. Stew. Some kind of plug for the Crashed Website at http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon may appear here in the near future. From imc Sun Oct 26 22:30:37 1997 Subject: Re: Back from the show To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:30:37 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <9A6ED93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> from "Dan Doore" at Oct 26, 97 03:28:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 252 Lines: 11 On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:28:00 +0000, Dan Doore said: > And I was sat behind you. Well I had absolutely no idea who you were until someone finally called you 'Dan'. > You always could have turned around and said hello of something... Nah... :-) imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Oct 26 22:48:08 1997 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: You all owe me money you stingy gits Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:43:21 -0000 Message-Id: <01bce260$90f2cba0$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1138 Lines: 25 >I'm begining to feel the same way. I also ordered Kaboom! over a year ago >now, and I also bought myself a copy of Magefire from Michael Stocks. Still >no manual and still an early release version. Magefire sounds pretty good - I would send my money to Michael, but for obvious reasons I won't. He doesn't seem to want to answer anything I send to him. David Ledbury teledisked Conquest a month or so ago and sent it to me (with Michael's permission) but I still obviously want the manual etc. Even a reply to any of my letters to him would be nice. Was he at the show? >Also, no offence Nev, but does everyone else on this list find that their >IDE interface is useless. I can't get mine to save anything to the f@#king >hard disk. :-( I agree Thankfully Persona have a new hard drive interface in development - *internal* :))) You've probably heard about it before, but if not, it will be called The Atom, and will sit in the position your second floppy drive is in (if you have one). More info will be probably be available in the next issue of Blitz. Gavin (still in a bad mood cos he didn't get to go to the show) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Oct 26 23:38:50 1997 Message-ID: <19971026233140.25185.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.20.17] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:31:39 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1086 Lines: 29 >> And I think I've finally managed to get that bloody tune they were >> playing on the Quazar stand out of my head. > >All together now: > ># I'm a Barbie Girl, In a Barbie World ># You can brush my hair, Undress me everywhere. ># Come on Barbie, Let's go party! ># Ooh Ooh Ooh Time for the spice girls then ??? Colin P. +--------------------------------------------------------+ | QUAZAR SURROUND soundcard... *16 BIT* sound on Sam! | | *NEW* - STRATOSPHERE - Mode 4 3d Action! | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Colin Piggot | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | Email your postal | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | address for 14+ page | | | booklet about products | HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR SAM | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 00:24:51 1997 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 00:02:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: The Northern SAM and Spectrum Show In-Reply-To: <19971026233140.25185.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 219 Lines: 9 In case anyone doesn't know, the next NSSS will take place at the usual venue in Wetherby on Saturday 21st February 1998. For more details, see the Crashed website (ie I can't be arsed looking them up). SRD, Mark. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 12:01:33 1997 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:59:42 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: "SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no}" Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits In-Reply-To: <096FD93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 286 Lines: 19 On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Dan Doore wrote: > > > Time for the spice girls then ??? > > *Shudder* > > Defiantly the lesser of two evils. > > Can we put in requests for next time? :) How about 'I Feel Love' by Donna Summer (the original '77 version, not that horrible remix)? Mark. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 12:01:34 1997 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:18:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no (SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no}) Cc: nevilley@ndirect.co.uk (Nev Young) Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 129 Lines: 10 > Hope none / all of you get my cold. Nev, you are a complete bastard. Drip, drip, sniff, hack, splutter, cough. :-( Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 12:06:11 1997 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:02:39 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: "SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no}" Subject: Where were they? In-Reply-To: <096FD93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 260 Lines: 4 I've been on this list for less than 24 hours, so apologies if this has already been answered, but where were Persona, Steve's Software, SAM PD and Zodiac at the show? Does anyone know whether they'll be up for the Wetherby one? (They'd be fools not to be.) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 12:47:14 1997 Message-ID: <3070D93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:38:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 215 Lines: 10 > > Can we put in requests for next time? :) > > How about 'I Feel Love' by Donna Summer (the original '77 version, not > that horrible remix)? I don't think Sam has enough memory for the whole shebang :-O Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 13:37:16 1997 Message-ID: <096FD93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 8:43:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no (SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no}) Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 134 Lines: 10 > Time for the spice girls then ??? *Shudder* Defiantly the lesser of two evils. Can we put in requests for next time? :) Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 13:37:16 1997 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <8025653D.0036DEE3.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:01:15 +0100 Subject: Re: A few Q's... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 274 Lines: 14 >>>>>>>>>>> > 2) I got a blank page in my new copy of Format yesterday... That isn't a question. <<<<<<<<<<< Okie... Errmm.. how about if I add "why?" to the end? Even though I really know the answer. So, instead, I'll ask if anyone else had the same problem? Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 19:44:26 1997 Message-Id: <199710271936.TAA19556@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:35:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits References: <3070D93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 195 Lines: 6 > Bah humbug. How about an excerpt? Or even better, a bit of 'Love to Love > You Baby'? Or 'O.U.' by Pulp - that's only about 2 and a half minutes > long. Or 5 if you get the email twice ;) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 21:13:20 1997 Message-ID: <34550310.5AD9@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:09:36 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: You all owe me money you stingy gits References: <01bce260$90f2cba0$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1568 Lines: 44 SparkY and Stewart wrote: > >Also, no offence Nev, but does everyone else on this list find that their > >IDE interface is useless. I can't get mine to save anything to the f@#king ^^^^^^^ not entirely useless. It can always be used as a door wedge. > >hard disk. :-( > > > I agree I think you mispelt MT > If you bought it from me[1] then it is covered by the unique SD Software no quibble money back guarentee, and the free "Fix it till it works" offer. Mail me direct with any specific problems. [1] yes you did. units 156 & 114. > > Thankfully Persona have a new hard drive interface in development - I hope thay have fewer problems than I have had. > *internal* :))) You've probably heard about it before, but if not, it will > be called The Atom, and will sit in the position your second floppy drive is > in (if you have one). More info will be probably be available in the next > issue of Blitz. Oh goody some info at last. Any body would think I was trying to steal the idea or somthing the way I get a wall of silence when I ask. -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 21:52:52 1997 Message-ID: <34558689.31DF@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:30:33 -0800 From: David Organization: Persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: You all owe me money you stingy gits References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 171 Lines: 9 Mark Sturdy wrote: > > How about 'I Feel Love' by Donna Summer (the original '77 version, not > that horrible remix)? Hmmmm? I'm sure I've got that somewhere :) David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Oct 27 23:23:06 1997 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Where were they? Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:02:01 -0000 Message-Id: <01bce32c$55730a00$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1010 Lines: 21 From: Mark Sturdy >I've been on this list for less than 24 hours, so apologies if this has >already been answered, but where were Persona, Steve's Software, SAM PD >and Zodiac at the show? Does anyone know whether they'll be up for the >Wetherby one? (They'd be fools not to be.) As far as I know (and I think this is fairly public and most people know or guessed it), Persona were refused entry to the show. Steve's Software seems to have near enough left the SAM scene which is a great shame as he was one of our best coders - at least he doesn't seem to be developing any new software. Don't know about SAM PD but I'm not surprised to hear Zodiac weren't there - there are probably are lot of people after Michael Stocks, demanding money back...:) By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene *evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) Gavin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 09:45:36 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:37:33 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: You all owe me money you stingy gits Message-Id: <19971028093813Z49375-11594+860@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 516 Lines: 22 Date: 1997-10-28 09:32 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:30:33 -0800 >From: David >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Subject: Re: You all owe me money you stingy gits >Mark Sturdy wrote: >> >> How about 'I Feel Love' by Donna Summer (the original '77 version, not >> that horrible remix)? >Hmmmm? I'm sure I've got that somewhere :) >David Have you got Tchykovisky's (sp?) symphony No6, 3rd movement ? Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 10:14:50 1997 Message-ID: <3A72D93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:00:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 230 Lines: 11 > Have you got Tchykovisky's (sp?) symphony No6, 3rd movement ? No point, most will just say "It's the one from the thingy advert!" :) Dan. P.S. Thanks again for the cold, this morning was greeted by green things as well! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 14:30:01 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:21:42 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: You all owe me money you stingy gits Message-Id: <19971028142310Z49447-11594+1034@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 634 Lines: 22 Date: 1997-10-28 12:45 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:00:00 +0000 >From: Dan Doore >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) >Subject: RE: You all owe me money you stingy gits >> Have you got Tchykovisky's (sp?) symphony No6, 3rd movement ? >No point, most will just say "It's the one from the thingy advert]" I don't think it's ever been used in an advert. :-) >Dan. >P.S. Thanks again for the cold, this morning was greeted by green things >as well] I had to skive off yesterday cos I wus soooo ill. :-( Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 17:35:22 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:15:16 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Where were they? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <68427B7CD1@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 868 Lines: 28 > As far as I know (and I think this is fairly public and most people know or > guessed it), Persona were refused entry to the show. Some things never change... Steve's Software seems > to have near enough left the SAM scene which is a great shame as he was one > of our best coders - at least he doesn't seem to be developing any new > software. Some excellent stuff came from Steve - can anybody talk him into coming back onto the scene? > By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene > *evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, > anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) > Where is samsboss these days? I kind of miss it (sad to say...) > Gavin > > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Geese...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 17:35:23 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:20:55 GMT+0 Subject: A despairing plea... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <6858605714@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 373 Lines: 12 Hello, Amyone know where there is some ACTIVE free web space up for grabs. I've lost my ftp access for my first account with yellow internet so I'm looking to try and move in somewhere else. Oh, long live SAM (or something vaguely SAM related methinks...) Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Geese...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 17:51:56 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:41:30 GMT+0 Subject: It's alright...I like a good wait! X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <68B05232A6@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 230 Lines: 7 How come everything is taking so long to come back to me these days? I posted about forty minutes ago and still nothing in my mailbox. Is there a Dick Turnip out there holding up all the mail or something? a very bored Johnna From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 18:37:31 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:30:33 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Where were they? In-Reply-To: <01bce32c$55730a00$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1286 Lines: 42 On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, SparkY wrote: > As far as I know (and I think this is fairly public and most people know or > guessed it), Persona were refused entry to the show. Why? They're just about the most popular software house/supplier there is, they've got the biggest range of decent stuff out of anyone on the SAM scene . . . isn't refusing them entry to the show when attendence is going down ANYWAY due to the dwindling number of stands, shooting yourself in the foot rather? > Steve's Software seems > to have near enough left the SAM scene which is a great shame as he was one > of our best coders - at least he doesn't seem to be developing any new > software. Shame! > Don't know about SAM PD but I'm not surprised to hear Zodiac > weren't there - there are probably are lot of people after Michael Stocks, > demanding money back...:) Maybe he was on holiday (wild, stab in the dark guess). > By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene > *evil cackle* Oh yeah, like there's a light side. > Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, > anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) Isn't that Bob pretending to be someone else who happens to agree with everything he says? :o] SRD, Mark. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 22:50:36 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 21:14:18 GMT Message-ID: <607_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Where were they? X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 626 Lines: 24 In E-Mail <01bce32c$55730a00$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> "SparkY" wrote:- >By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene >*evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, >anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) So, what'll it be, guys? SRAM or Z380? ;) __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "Lisa, vampires are make-believe, just like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Friday.. maybe. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 22:50:37 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 21:28:28 GMT Message-ID: <608_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: You all owe me money you sting X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 512 Lines: 25 >>P.S. Thanks again for the cold, this morning was greeted by green things >>as well] >I had to skive off yesterday cos I wus soooo ill. :-( > >Nev. I feel fine. :) But then I had a horrible cold two weeks ago. :( __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "Lisa, vampires are make-believe, just like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 22:50:38 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 21:32:02 GMT Message-ID: <610_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: It's alright...I like a good w X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 601 Lines: 22 OASIS_E-Mail: The Mad Goose wrote:- >How come everything is taking so long to come back to me these days? >I posted about forty minutes ago and still nothing in my mailbox. It's gone like this before - I don't really notice when I'm at home, but it's annoying from university. __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "Lisa, vampires are make-believe, just like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 22:50:39 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 21:30:34 GMT Message-ID: <609_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Where were they? X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 579 Lines: 23 OASIS_E-Mail: The Mad Goose wrote:- >Where is samsboss these days? I kind of miss it (sad to say...) Didn't he get his account flooded with mail, and have to close it or something? (That's what someone said last time this came up, a month or two back.) __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "Lisa, vampires are make-believe, just like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Oct 28 22:50:39 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 21:33:46 GMT Message-ID: <611_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Where were they? X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1451 Lines: 39 OASIS_E-Mail: Mark Sturdy wrote:- >Isn't that Bob pretending to be someone else who happens to agree with >everything he says? :o] Most people are of that opinion. Although Bob and Samsboss deny it completely. Who knows...? More to the point, who cares? When Samsboss WAS on the list, it would've been nice to know - it was difficult to weight has posts as important as everyone elses when there was the possibility that he was a duplicate of someone on the list trying to get a second vote in. Had we known for _certain_ that he was someone that wasn't on the list already, everyone might have taken him more seriously. If he truly WAS someone else, not already here, then it's a pity he couldn't see to admitting who he was - Bob would have had some honest support to his arguments, without everyones instant suspicion. We'll never know, and it no longer matters at all. It would be interesting to find out, but is no longer important, therefore I'm not going to state any opinion on whether I think he was/wasn't Bob. BTW, thanks for the ST I bought at the show, Bob, it works perfectly - feel free to cash the cheque ASAP. __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "Lisa, vampires are make-believe, just like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Oct 29 10:12:33 1997 From: Matthew Craven Organization: UMIST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:02:07 BST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: A despairing plea... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <5CCE306581F@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 499 Lines: 13 Hello, Amyone know where there is some ACTIVE free web space up for grabs. I've lost my ftp access for my first account with yellow internet so I'm looking to try and move in somewhere else. Oh, long live SAM (or something vaguely SAM related methinks...) Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Geese...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." You could try http://www.geocities.com or http://www.cus.umist.ac.uk - I think Simon Cooke has a page there :) Matthew Craven. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Oct 29 11:08:15 1997 Message-Id: <199710291058.LAA00808@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: A despairing plea... Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:59:39 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2078 Lines: 68 > Hello, > Amyone know where there is some ACTIVE free web space up for grabs. > I've lost my ftp access for my first account with yellow internet so > I'm looking to try and move in somewhere else. > Oh, long live SAM (or something vaguely SAM related methinks...) > Peace, Love, Kisses... > Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) > "Geese...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." Homepages with a limit (5000=5meg, 0750=750kb) > 5000 http://cybercity.hko.net > 1000 http://freeweb.ttgcitn.com/ > 5000 http://www.aparker.org > 1000 http://www.cqws.com > 0750 http://www.dds.nl > 2000 http://www.digibel.be > 0750 http://www.dma.be > 1000 http://www.dsl.nl > 0750 http://www.dsv.nl > 1000 http://www.eccentrica.com > 2000 http://www.geocities.com > 1000 http://www.mediaport.org > 5000 http://www.mygale.org > 2000 http://www.naz.com/ > 3000 http://www.nether.net > 1000 http://www.1worldnet.com/ > 2000 http://www.page4life.com > 3000 http://www.passagen.se > 1000 http://www.shop.de/php/php.htm > 2000 http://www.toptown.com > 2000 http://www.tripod.com > 3000 http://www.trailerpark.com > 2000 http://www.yi.com/home/ > Homepages without a limit or no limit found. > http://free.websight.com/free/ > http://jungle.fapema.br/ > http://kenionet.com/hpp/auto.html > http://khanhdom.com/ > http://mkn.co.uk/freepages/ > http://mls.visi.net/ > http://phool.dhinternet.com > http://ps.superb-e.com/PS/ > http://wallbria.gardens.udayton.edu > http://www.angelfire.com > http://www.communityware.com/ > http://www.CutlerGraphics.com > http://www.fish.net.au/ > http://www.freetown.com > http://www.homeless.com/ > http://www.howdyneighbor.com > http://www.inca.de/ > http://www.infochase.com > http://www.Ipsnet.it > http://www.nethosting.com/ > http://www.pagelist.com/ > http://www.paradigm-net.com/home/free.htm > http://www.prohosting.com/free/ > http://www.spidercity.com I think this would do, this should be enough for now methinks :) Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] - Whats on the telly then? - - Looks like a penguin to me - Monty Python From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Oct 29 18:51:56 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:40:10 GMT+0 Subject: Re: A despairing plea... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <81AC0C49E4@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 636 Lines: 24 > Thanks for using NetForward! > http://www.netforward.com > v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v > > > Hello, > > Amyone know where there is some ACTIVE free web space up for grabs. > Homepages with a limit (5000=5meg, 0750=750kb) [large edit made around about here] > > I think this would do, this should be enough for now methinks :) Thanks lots... > > Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics > [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] > - Whats on the telly then? - > - Looks like a penguin to me - Monty Python > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Geese...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Oct 29 18:51:56 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:40:48 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Where were they? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <81AC0C0F29@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 844 Lines: 31 > In E-Mail <01bce32c$55730a00$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> > "SparkY" wrote:- > > > >By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene > >*evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, > >anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) > > So, what'll it be, guys? SRAM or Z380? ;) > I take it nothing happened on the SAMSon front then? ;) > > __ > > James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk > > "Lisa, vampires are make-believe, just like elves, gremlins, and > eskimos." - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. > > The official James R Curry web page - Friday.. maybe. > > > > > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Geese...mad, bad and dangerous to know..." From imc Wed Oct 29 22:00:52 1997 Subject: Re: Where were they? To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 22:00:52 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <01bce32c$55730a00$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> from "SparkY" at Oct 27, 97 11:02:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 326 Lines: 8 On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:02:01 -0000, SparkY said: > By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene > *evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, > anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) So why wasn't he(/she/it) at the show then? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 00:33:26 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9710292200.AA03040@ruby.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <01bce32c$55730a00$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> from "SparkY" at Oct 27, 97 11:02:01 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 00:27:22 -0100 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Where were they? X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 665 Lines: 17 >> By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene >> *evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, >> anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) > >So why wasn't he(/she/it) at the show then? On the contrary, I expect he probably was. +--------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | | 1B NatSci @ Selwyn College Cambridge | " +--------------------------------------+ Get your kicks | mailto:asc25@cam.ac.uk | on 8.124038405 | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk/ | " +--------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 08:12:02 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:48:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Si Owen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Where were they? In-Reply-To: <68427B7CD1@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Message-ID: X-Organisation: Wordcraft International Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 855 Lines: 20 On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, The Mad Goose wrote: > Steve's Software seems > > to have near enough left the SAM scene which is a great shame as he was one > > of our best coders - at least he doesn't seem to be developing any new > > software. > > Some excellent stuff came from Steve - can anybody talk him into > coming back onto the scene? I guess he's not got Net access... but if he knows there is still such Sam interest out here, he may join us! Si /------------------------------------+----------------------------------------\ | Si Owen | Home: si@obobo.demon.co.uk | | Wordcraft International Ltd, UK | Work: sowen@wordcraft.co.uk | | Fax: +44-1332-295525 | WWW: www.obobo.demon.co.uk | \------------------------------------+----------------------------------------/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 09:18:58 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:01:25 GMT Message-Id: <199710300901.JAA25127@hermes.clara.net> From: "David Ledbury-." To: SAM Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Where were they? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Graphic E-mail for Windows (v.1.1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 621 Lines: 20 >On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, The Mad Goose wrote: > >> Steve's Software seems >> > to have near enough left the SAM scene which is a great shame as he was one >> > of our best coders - at least he doesn't seem to be developing any new >> > software. >> >> Some excellent stuff came from Steve - can anybody talk him into >> coming back onto the scene? > >I guess he's not got Net access... but if he knows there is still such Sam >interest out here, he may join us! > >Si AFAIK it's not purely down to losing interest - he's now got a very busy none-computer related business which gives him very little free time. David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 09:18:59 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 04:06:27 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where were they? Message-Id: <19971030090643Z49266-4402+116@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 745 Lines: 25 Date: 1997-10-30 09:04 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: The Mad Goose >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:40:48 GMT+0 >Subject: Re: Where were they? >> >By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene >> >*evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, >> >anyone want to start one? I know] Let's talk about Samsboss again] :) >> So, what'll it be, guys? SRAM or Z380? ;) >I take it nothing happened on the SAMSon front then? ;) Well after all was said and done Lots was said and nothing done. No surprise there then. Nev - Want a new monitor ? Insert nail here > < From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 09:19:00 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 04:12:16 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where were they? Message-Id: <19971030091230Z49266-4402+127@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 681 Lines: 23 Date: 1997-10-30 09:08 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 00:27:22 -0100 >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >From: Andrew Collier >Subject: Re: Where were they? >>> By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene >>> *evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, >>> anyone want to start one? I know] Let's talk about Samsboss again] :) >>So why wasn't he(/she/it) at the show then? >On the contrary, I expect he probably was. But he didn't buy anything off me. Not even the car ] Nev - > < This blank spaced left deliberately From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 09:27:23 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 04:21:18 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where were they? Message-Id: <19971030092130Z49252-4402+129@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1100 Lines: 31 Date: 1997-10-30 09:16 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:48:58 +0000 (GMT) >From: Si Owen >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Subject: Re: Where were they? > >On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, The Mad Goose wrote: > >> Steve's Software seems >> > to have near enough left the SAM scene which is a great shame as he was one >> > of our best coders - at least he doesn't seem to be developing any new >> > software. >> Some excellent stuff came from Steve - can anybody talk him into >> coming back onto the scene? >I guess he's not got Net access... but if he knows there is still such Sam >interest out here, he may join us] As far as I know he has left the Sam scene for the following reasons: 1. It was no longer making a profit. 2. He has bought out the company he worked for and now has much less time. 3. He want to spend more time with his family (I didn't know he had one) 4. I no longer take my kids along to the shows to annoy him. :-) Nev - My computer is alive - after all 'to err is human'. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 12:06:33 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:54:41 --100 From: ft@edh.ericsson.se (Frode Tenneboe) Message-Id: <9710301154.AA23123@edhk.edh-net> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Where were they? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 353 Lines: 10 > As far as I know he has left the Sam scene for the following reasons: > > 1. It was no longer making a profit. > 2. He has bought out the company he worked for and now has much less time. > 3. He want to spend more time with his family (I didn't know he had one) > 4. I no longer take my kids along to the shows to annoy him. :-) Who? ;-) -Frode From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 12:45:52 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:31:36 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where were they? Message-Id: <19971030123548Z49305-4402+220@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 771 Lines: 29 Date: 1997-10-30 12:28 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:54:41 --100 >From: ft@edh.ericsson.se (Frode Tenneboe) >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Subject: Re: Where were they? > >> As far as I know he has left the Sam scene for the following reasons: >> >> 1. It was no longer making a profit. >> 2. He has bought out the company he worked for and now has much less time. >> 3. He want to spend more time with his family (I didn't know he had one) >> 4. I no longer take my kids along to the shows to annoy him. :-) >Who? ;-) > -Frode Do try and keep up at the back. :-) Nev - Q. - How many Pentium design engineers does it take to change a light bulb ? A. - 0.9999997 < n < 1.00003 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 14:38:38 1997 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:29:49 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Where were they? In-Reply-To: <01bce32c$55730a00$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 842 Lines: 18 In message <01bce32c$55730a00$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk>, SparkY writes >By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene >*evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, >anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) You mean Bob Brenchley? (There, that'll get it going) :) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 15:06:23 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:47:31 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Where were they? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <95CCAE24A2@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1192 Lines: 29 > In message <01bce32c$55730a00$LocalHost@gavin.smith.cableol.co.uk>, > SparkY writes > >By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene > >*evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, > >anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) > > You mean Bob Brenchley? (There, that'll get it going) :) Is Bob still on the list? There seems to be loads of people who have gone really quiet recently. Is there nothing to talk about? Or Maybe I'm just a bit sad for wanting Email to distract me from my work...? > > Graham > > -- > > /====================================================\ +--------------+ > | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| > | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | > | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| > \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | > My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Great King Rat died today..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 16:06:39 1997 Message-Id: <199710301559.PAA02312@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:59:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Where were they? In-reply-to: <19971030123548Z49305-4402+220@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 269 Lines: 15 > Q. - How many Pentium design engineers does it take to change a light bulb > ? Presumably everyone knows that the Pentium II has a corking bug? -- dave who has a K6 well, will have as soon as Evesham Micros get their collective arse into gear and deliver it. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 16:43:50 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 16:20:50 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Where were they? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <974D6E2E71@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 567 Lines: 28 > > Q. - How many Pentium design engineers does it take to change a light bulb > > ? > > Presumably everyone knows that the Pentium II has a corking bug? > What kind of idiots would spend years developing new technology only to release it in a hurry and have it come out littered with bugs. Isn't the SAM Great? ;-) > -- > dave > > who has a K6 > > > well, will have > > as soon as Evesham Micros get their collective arse into gear and > deliver it. > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "Great King Rat died today..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 17:12:36 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:42:59 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where were they? Message-Id: <19971030170625Z49384-4402+381@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 520 Lines: 19 Date: 1997-10-30 16:41 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Dave Hooper" <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:59:06 +0000 >Subject: Re: Where were they? > >> Q. - How many Pentium design engineers does it take to change a light bulb >> ? > >Presumably everyone knows that the Pentium II has a corking bug? and why would any body want to squeeze a chip down the side of the bath ? Nev - who hates DIY any how. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 20:14:29 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:59:25 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Where were they? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 412 Lines: 15 On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Andrew Collier wrote: > >> By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene > >> *evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, > >> anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) > > > >So why wasn't he(/she/it) at the show then? > > On the contrary, I expect he probably was. Oooh! He's sharp, this 'un. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 20:14:29 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:01:42 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Where were they? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 566 Lines: 19 On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Si Owen wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, The Mad Goose wrote: > > > Steve's Software seems > > > to have near enough left the SAM scene which is a great shame as he was one > > > of our best coders - at least he doesn't seem to be developing any new > > > software. > > > > Some excellent stuff came from Steve - can anybody talk him into > > coming back onto the scene? > > I guess he's not got Net access... but if he knows there is still such Sam > interest out here, he may join us! Isn't there an email address on his ads in Format? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 22:04:17 1997 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Where were they? Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:00:15 -0000 Message-Id: <01bce57f$34023b20$1f14a8c2@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 333 Lines: 11 >>By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene >>*evil cackle* Hmm, actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now, >>anyone want to start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) > >You mean Bob Brenchley? (There, that'll get it going) :) > >Graham Really? Is that who it is? *grins* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Oct 30 22:18:38 1997 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Where were they? Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:11:19 -0000 Message-Id: <01bce580$bfaea680$1f14a8c2@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 728 Lines: 16 >> > Some excellent stuff came from Steve - can anybody talk him into >> > coming back onto the scene? >> >> I guess he's not got Net access... but if he knows there is still such Sam >> interest out here, he may join us! > >Isn't there an email address on his ads in Format? Yep, there used to be - his last advert with an e-mail address on it was in the January issue, and his last advert at all in Format was in the April issue. Actually, adverts in Format became suddenly rare from the April issue onwards. In fact, there is only Fred and S.D. Software still advertising (unless you count Revelation and West Coast Computers as seperate companies from Format Publications? Sorry for bringing up the old arguments *grins*) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 31 08:25:48 1997 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 08:07:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Si Owen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Where were they? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Organisation: Wordcraft International Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 771 Lines: 18 On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Mark Sturdy wrote: > > I guess he's not got Net access... but if he knows there is still such Sam > > interest out here, he may join us! > > Isn't there an email address on his ads in Format? *blush* Haven't read Format for a while, but there wasn't when I last did! I that case why not email him about the existence of the sam-users list? Si /------------------------------------+----------------------------------------\ | Si Owen | Home: si@obobo.demon.co.uk | | Wordcraft International Ltd, UK | Work: sowen@wordcraft.co.uk | | Fax: +44-1332-295525 | WWW: www.obobo.demon.co.uk | \------------------------------------+----------------------------------------/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 31 17:40:21 1997 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:40:39 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Paveley To: Sam Users Mailing List Subject: 1meg, and a few other comments. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 684 Lines: 23 Hi all, anyone know where I can get details of using the 1meg card, other than as a RAM Disk. I seem to recall that you can't access it from basic, but must be able to use it from m/c (and hopefully therefore write some C routines for it). Does the tech manual cookie started have more info,(ie should I download the draft again) Nev> I nearly bought the car, maybe next time. Dan> The only problem with getting a stall would be that you'd probably have to watch it while everone else went to lunch. Ando> Grow your hair long. Bob> Whens the april show? :) tell me it's not the weekend about the 21st. That'll do, maybe I'll make good on my promises to ando now :) :) ....@/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Oct 31 21:10:18 1997 Message-Id: <199710312102.VAA15625@mail.enterprise.net> From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave Whitmore) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-FTN-To: Graham Goring Subject: Where were they? Date: 31 Oct 1997 09:57:48 Organization: Dalmation enterprises References: X-newsreader: Spot 1.3 #1234 X-mailer: NetGate 1.3 (Amiga; TCP/IP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1013 Lines: 25 In a message of 28 Oct 97 Graham Goring wrote to sam-users@nvg.unit.no: GG> actually we haven't had an argument for a few weeks now,anyone want to GG> start one? I know! Let's talk about Samsboss again! :) GG> You mean Bob Brenchley? (There, that'll get it going) :) Someone calling himself Samsboss managed to persuade me that he wasn't Bob after all. As far as I know (and I might have been conned), his name is 'Brian' and he's from Liverpool or somewhere near there. He went to university in the midlands - recently enough to still have contact with fellow students (enemies or pranksters?) who like to flood his mail accounts. Does this ring any bells, anyone? BTW, does anyone know if Ian Slavin has an email address? Bye, _ -------------------------------------- |_)ave | Dalmation - Saturdays 12 till 10 pm | (/\)hitmore | | | UK 01744 614150 | --------------------------------------