From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 1 17:58:59 1997 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 17:51:37 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no cc: Sam Users Mailing List Subject: Re: 1meg, and a few other comments. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 581 Lines: 23 On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Tim Paveley wrote: > Hi all, > > anyone know where I can get details of using the 1meg card, other than as > a RAM Disk. I *think* there was an article by Carol Brooksbank in Format last year sometime. > Dan> The only problem with getting a stall would be that you'd probably > have to watch it while everone else went to lunch. Tell me about it. :) > Bob> Whens the april show? :) tell me it's not the weekend about the 21st. Come to the Wetherby one on Sat Feb 21st! It'll kick Gloucester's butt. Persona will be there, for a start! SRD, Mark. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Nov 2 00:10:08 1997 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 00:02:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Crashed In-Reply-To: <199710312102.VAA15625@mail.enterprise.net> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 383 Lines: 10 Just a quick note to apologise to everyone for the continued non-appearence of issue 20 of 'Crashed'. It was supposed to be out around two months ago, and all the actual articles were finished in August, but problems with the DTP have kept it in limbo since then. I'm not making any promises as to when it will appear (it's not me doing the DTP), but I hope it'll be soon. Mark From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Nov 2 18:07:26 1997 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 2 Nov 97 17:51:02 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Crashed Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1456 Lines: 38 On Sun 2 Nov 97 (00:02:27 +0000), pyumi@csv.warwick.ac.uk wrote: >Just a quick note to apologise to everyone for the continued >non-appearence of issue 20 of 'Crashed'. It was supposed to be out >around two months ago, and all the actual articles were finished in >August, but problems with the DTP have kept it in limbo since then. >I'm not making any promises as to when it will appear (it's not me >doing the DTP), but I hope it'll be soon. > >Mark > > Oh here we go. Post a message to the List to try and make me feel bad. That's right, It's me doing to DTP. Problems have been caused through the transfering of files. It's a pain in the backside having to go through every bloody file that I get removing ascii codes, replacing # signs with pound signs, and as for screenshots. You know yourself Mark that I can't do anything with the screenshots that you sent me, it would have helped if you had sent them to me in the format that I asked you to so give me a chance, or it /will/ be you doing the DTP. Remember, I'm not under any obligation to finish the bloody thing. I just did it for Allan as a favour. (Sorry folks, but I've had one hell of a week, and this is all I needed.) > > -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 3 12:52:31 1997 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:43:46 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Crashed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1436 Lines: 27 On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, Stewart Skardon wrote: > Oh here we go. Post a message to the List to try and make me feel bad. > > That's right, It's me doing to DTP. Problems have been caused through the > transfering of files. It's a pain in the backside having to go through every > bloody file that I get removing ascii codes, replacing # signs with pound > signs, and as for screenshots. You know yourself Mark that I can't do anything > with the screenshots that you sent me, it would have helped if you had sent > them to me in the format that I asked you to so give me a chance, or it /will/ > be you doing the DTP. > > Remember, I'm not under any obligation to finish the bloody thing. I just did > it for Allan as a favour. > > (Sorry folks, but I've had one hell of a week, and this is all I needed.) > Oofff! Blimey. Sorry if I upset you, Stewart. I'm not saying in any way that it's your fault that it's taking so long to get things together. If anyone, it's Dave Fountain who's to blame, because he sent *me* those screenshots, which I can't do anything with either, and has failed (since August, despite me asking him several times) to get them to either of us. I just thought I'd put something on the list to let people who were expecting issue 20 two months ago know what's happening. I appreciate things haven't been going too well recently, so stay in touch and we'll try and get something sorted out for 'Crashed'. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 4 16:46:19 1997 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:55:11 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Hello? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 152 Lines: 5 Haven't had anything from the List since Monday morning . . . is it just very quiet or have I somehow been unsubscribed? Is there anyone there? Mark From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 4 16:46:20 1997 Message-Id: <199711041525.QAA29982@relais1.orctel.co.uk> From: David Zambonini To: sam-users Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:21:27 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 320 Lines: 18 ---------- > From: Mark Sturdy > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Subject: Hello? > Date: 04 November 1997 23:55 > > Haven't had anything from the List since Monday morning . . . is it just > very quiet or have I somehow been unsubscribed? Is there anyone there? > > Mark > Nope. ;) DMZ --- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 4 18:00:51 1997 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:21:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no (SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no}) Subject: RE: Hello? Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 192 Lines: 10 > Haven't had anything from the List since Monday morning . . . is it just > very quiet or have I somehow been unsubscribed? Is there anyone there? *grins* We are here, honest. Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 4 21:48:53 1997 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:41:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: "SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no}" Subject: RE: Hello? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 272 Lines: 14 On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Dan Doore wrote: > > > Haven't had anything from the List since Monday morning . . . is it > just > > very quiet or have I somehow been unsubscribed? Is there anyone there? > > *grins* > > We are here, honest. > > Dan. > Don't believe you. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 4 22:40:09 1997 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 22:35:13 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: "SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no}" Subject: Where's Terry? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 151 Lines: 5 Does anyone know Terry Ekins/Jupiter's new email address? The only one I've got is terry@tresham.uk (or whatever) off the Scrapbook. Anyone? Mark. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 5 16:58:39 1997 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:43:44 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971105114343_128829391@mrin41.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 394 Lines: 19 In a message dated 21/10/97 09:26:01, you write: >> >>> Oh, well watch you don't fall off that bandwagon Bob. Some people >actually >>> think its better than Win 3.1x... >>> >Some people try 95 point to one little difference and say the whole thing is >crap. Yep, guilty! Well more than one bit really but its still crap. > >I actually like 95 ] But you never got into 3.1 [snip] -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 5 16:58:39 1997 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:44:26 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971105114339_698570702@mrin38> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 497 Lines: 17 In a message dated 20/10/97 21:33:45, you write: >> Oh, well watch you don't fall off that bandwagon Bob. Some people actually >> think its better than Win 3.1x... >> > >I'd agree with you there -- though NT is the mecca of the moment... > >95 and NT both suffer from being written in C++ and C though... there's >no way that these systems should need so much memory and disk space... I would have thought that with the spped windoze'95 runs at it was written in interpreted basic. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 5 16:58:49 1997 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:49:03 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971105114336_305063886@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 294 Lines: 18 In a message dated 20/10/97 21:23:29, you write: >>Well at least its not windoze 95. >> >>[snip] >> >>-- >>Bob. > >Oh, well watch you don't fall off that bandwagon Bob. Some people actually >think its better than Win 3.1x... > > I know, and some still believe in the tooth fairy :) -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 5 23:33:27 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:29:23 +0000 To: "Sam users' mailing list" From: Andrew Collier Subject: Broken X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id XAA16640 Status: RO Content-Length: 1087 Lines: 34 I've got this error message from Dan Doore's mailer, and I'm fairly sure I shouldn't have. Is it Dan's problem, or something wrong at nvg? >A message To: dandoore@bacg.com > From: -maiser-@bacg > Subject: Message Not Delivered > >Produced the following MHS/SMF delivery notification: > > 255: Unknown error > >----------------------------[ returned message ]---------------------------- >Non-Delivery Error Code: 201 > >Message was not delivered to: > DANDOORE@BACG > >Original Message Follows: > >>> By the way, welcome to the list Mark - its the dark side of the SAM scene ...etc... Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1TRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+dre From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 6 08:41:45 1997 Message-ID: <2D86D93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 8:25:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: Broken Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 225 Lines: 8 > I've got this error message from Dan Doore's mailer, and I'm fairly sure I > shouldn't have. Is it Dan's problem, or something wrong at nvg? This is Technocom (Our ISP) fucking up again - don't worry about it. Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 6 09:24:00 1997 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 04:19:51 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: A bit quiet is it?..... Message-Id: <19971106091959Z49456-32308+92@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 687 Lines: 25 Date: 1997-11-06 09:15 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:43:44 -0500 (EST) >From: BrenchleyR@aol.com >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... > >In a message dated 21/10/97 09:26:01, you wrote in reply to something posted by the great and sage Nev > >>Some people try 95 point to one little difference and say the whole thing is crap. >Yep, guilty] Well more than one bit really but its still crap. >> >>I actually like 95 >But you never got into 3.1 > Oh no ]]] I only had to use it at work for well over a year. Obviously not enough time to make any form of judgment :-) Nev From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 6 10:23:26 1997 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 05:07:50 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: No subject Message-Id: <19971106100757Z49734-32308+110@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 346 Lines: 14 Date: 1997-11-06 10:04 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "B E Curren" >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:34:56 +0000 >Subject: > >subscribe Your subscription to "Sam Users" the magazine for the discerning paedophile has been accepted. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 6 10:23:26 1997 From: B E Curren To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:15:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: No subject X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <165FB0C1BDE@broadstone.shef.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 235 Lines: 13 > >Subject: > > > >subscribe > > Your subscription to "Sam Users" the magazine for the discerning paedophile > has been accepted. Thanks, Nev I realised, just as I sent the mail that I'd sent it to the wrong place - sorry folks! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 7 09:26:53 1997 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:16:55 +0100 (MET) From: Allan Skillman X-Sender: allan@hpopl1.cern.ch To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: SimCoupe developement snapshot page Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1143 Lines: 23 Hello All, I have decided to make the latest delevlopement version of SimCoupe available in the form of a DOS binary snapshot (in the same package as the official release). Anyone who is interested in the Bleeding edge of SimCoupe developement can try this version out, although I'm not making any guarantees about the stability of the code. To find the page just follow the link from the SimCoupe Homepage. regards Allan +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Now available! SimCoupe, the one and only SAM Coupe emulator | | ******* http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ajs/simcoupe ******* | +------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Allan Skillman | "There are five flavours of resons, the | | HEPP Group | elementary particles of magic : up, down, | | University College London | sideways, sex-appeal and peppermint." | | Email : ajs@hep.ucl.ac.uk | - Terry Pratchett (Lords and Ladies) | +------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 7 11:47:10 1997 Message-Id: <199711071129.LAA24100@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:28:40 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: SimCoupe developement snapshot page In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 364 Lines: 16 Question for you (or you, or you...) suppose i've got some sam stuff (code files, screen$, whatever) stored on my PCs hard drive (as, indeed, i do have). is there anyway to access them, using simcoupe, without access to a sam? do i need to convert them into a .dsk file? (and do i need a sam for that?) ta. btw: simcoupe looks really good now. nice one. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 7 16:38:23 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:25:11 GMT+0 Subject: Slowly drumming fingers... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <66AD8305E@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 467 Lines: 15 I take it that the list is representative of the amount of activity inthe SAM world?!!! Sometimes you can't beat a good argument. Oh to be back in the old days of Andrew (+fans) versus Bob (+fans). 100 mails a day, how I miss you... [written by a very bored Johnna who has spent all afternoon trying to FTP his web pagesd...bloody slow today or what?] Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "One by one...only the good die young." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 7 16:53:25 1997 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <00256548.005BB813.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:42:53 +0000 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 152 Lines: 8 I'm working on a couple of projects.. Buts it seems like every time I mention them, I end up scrapping them after a few weeks.... Justin SAM Xenoa. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 7 17:04:06 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66AD8305E@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:53:14 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id RAA16413 Status: RO Content-Length: 898 Lines: 28 >Sometimes you can't beat a good argument. Oh to be back in the old Okay, let's start a new row then: >days of Andrew (+fans) versus Bob (+fans). I think you mean "Bob (+fan)" singular. There, that ought'a do it :) Andrew P.S. I miss Nev's puzzles - at least they gave us something to talk about. So until he gets chance to send us another set, here's my question for you all: What's my .sig file all about? --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1TRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 7 17:23:33 1997 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:46:32 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <66AD8305E@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 827 Lines: 22 In message <66AD8305E@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk>, The Mad Goose writes >I take it that the list is representative of the amount of activity >inthe SAM world?!!! > >Sometimes you can't beat a good argument. Oh to be back in the old >days of Andrew (+fans) versus Bob (+fans). > >100 mails a day, how I miss you... Do and Andrew and Bob *have* any fans? ;) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 8 02:27:02 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 02:20:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@holly To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 481 Lines: 18 On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Graham Goring wrote: > In message <66AD8305E@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk>, The Mad Goose > writes > >I take it that the list is representative of the amount of activity > >inthe SAM world?!!! > > > >Sometimes you can't beat a good argument. Oh to be back in the old > >days of Andrew (+fans) versus Bob (+fans). > > > >100 mails a day, how I miss you... > > Do and Andrew and Bob *have* any fans? ;) > > Graham GRAHAM, YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 8 15:24:04 1997 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 04:00:33 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1110 Lines: 33 In message , Mr M A Sturdy writes >On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Graham Goring wrote: > >> In message <66AD8305E@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk>, The Mad Goose >> writes >> >I take it that the list is representative of the amount of activity >> >inthe SAM world?!!! >> > >> >Sometimes you can't beat a good argument. Oh to be back in the old >> >days of Andrew (+fans) versus Bob (+fans). >> > >> >100 mails a day, how I miss you... >> >> Do and Andrew and Bob *have* any fans? ;) >> >> Graham > > >GRAHAM, YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!! YOU SCISSORS! I WIN! ROCK BLUNT SCISSORS! HA HA HA! Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 8 20:58:39 1997 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:47:12 -0500 (EST) From: BillRitman@aol.com Message-ID: <971108154712_258471155@mrin47> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 319 Lines: 8 It is good to come back after two weeks in Italy (wet weeks; but it was work so I cant go on too much) to find that the list has picked up again. Everyone back on line after the summer hols? Are we missing anyone? Bill. PS. Gloucester show wonderful. Picked up so very good secondhand stuff. When is the next one???? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 8 21:43:24 1997 Message-ID: <3464D6DC.2B8A@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 21:17:22 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1539 Lines: 53 Andrew Collier wrote: > > P.S. I miss Nev's puzzles - at least they gave us something to talk about. This month's competition is designed to measure your intelligence, your fluency with words and your creativity. Each question below contains the initials of words that will make the mathematical statement correct. 1. 26 : L of the A Ans: 26: Letters of the Alphabet 2. 16 : O in the P 3. 7 : D of the W 4. 1001: A N 5. 12 : S of the Z 6. 54 : C in a D (with J's) 7. 9 : P in the S S 8. 13 : S on the A F 9. 32 : D F at which W F 10. 18 : H on a G C 11. 90 : D in a R A 12. 200 : P for P G in a G of M 13. 7 : S on a F P P 14. 3 : B M (S H T R) 15. 4 : Q in a G 16. 24 : H in a D 17. 1 : W on a U 18. 57 : H V 19. l1 : P in a F T 20. 29 : D in F in a L Y 21. 64 : S on a C B (U Y A I M) 22. 76 : T in the B P 23. 12 : D of C 24. 8 : P in B 25. 88 : P K on a K B 26. 4 : H in a P T 27. 4 : P in a B 28. 5 : T on a F 29. 2 : S to E S 30. 3 : C in a F 31. 31 : Q in T C -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 8 22:19:02 1997 Message-ID: <8mK$CCANAOZ0EwFm@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 21:56:29 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <3464D6DC.2B8A@ndirect.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1654 Lines: 90 In message <3464D6DC.2B8A@ndirect.co.uk>, Nev Young writes Spoiler Space... >1. 26 : L of the A Ans: 26: Letters of the Alphabet >2. 16 : O in the P >3. 7 : D of the W Days/Week >4. 1001: A N Arabian Nights >5. 12 : S of the Z Signs/Zodiac >6. 54 : C in a D (with J's) Cards/Deck(Joker) >7. 9 : P in the S S >8. 13 : S on the A F >9. 32 : D F at which W F Degree Farenheit/Water Freezes >10. 18 : H on a G C Holes/Golf Course >11. 90 : D in a R A Degrees/Right Angle >12. 200 : P for P G in a G of M Pounds/Passing Go/Game/Monopoly >13. 7 : S on a F P P Sides/Fifty Pence Piece >14. 3 : B M (S H T R) Blind Mice/See How They Run >15. 4 : Q in a G Quarts/Gallon >16. 24 : H in a D >17. 1 : W on a U >18. 57 : H V Heinz Varieties >19. l1 : P in a F T >20. 29 : D in F in a L Y Days/February/Leap Year >21. 64 : S on a C B (U Y A I M) Squares/Chess Board/????? >22. 76 : T in the B P >23. 12 : D of C Days/Christmas >24. 8 : P in B >25. 88 : P K on a K B >26. 4 : H in a P T >27. 4 : P in a B >28. 5 : T on a F >29. 2 : S to E S >30. 3 : C in a F >31. 31 : Q in T C > Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 8 22:43:10 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 22:29:43 +0000 (GMT) Cc: Simon.Cooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Cooke) In-Reply-To: <8mK$CCANAOZ0EwFm@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> from "Graham Goring" at Nov 8, 97 09:56:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19971108223012Z49651-32308+1848@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1509 Lines: 86 > > In message <3464D6DC.2B8A@ndirect.co.uk>, Nev Young > writes > > Spoiler Space... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. 26 : L of the A Ans: 26: Letters of the Alphabet > >2. 16 : O in the P Ounces in a Pound > >3. 7 : D of the W > Days/Week > >4. 1001: A N > Arabian Nights > >5. 12 : S of the Z > Signs/Zodiac > >6. 54 : C in a D (with J's) > Cards/Deck(Joker) > >7. 9 : P in the S S > >8. 13 : S on the A F Stars on the ?? Flag > >9. 32 : D F at which W F > Degree Farenheit/Water Freezes > >10. 18 : H on a G C > Holes/Golf Course > >11. 90 : D in a R A > Degrees/Right Angle > >12. 200 : P for P G in a G of M > Pounds/Passing Go/Game/Monopoly > >13. 7 : S on a F P P > Sides/Fifty Pence Piece > >14. 3 : B M (S H T R) > Blind Mice/See How They Run > >15. 4 : Q in a G > Quarts/Gallon > >16. 24 : H in a D Hours in a Day > >17. 1 : W on a U Wheel on a Unicycle > >18. 57 : H V > Heinz Varieties > >19. l1 : P in a F T The first character is an L - what should it be? A 1? > >20. 29 : D in F in a L Y > Days/February/Leap Year > >21. 64 : S on a C B (U Y A I M) > Squares/Chess Board/????? > >22. 76 : T in the B P > >23. 12 : D of C > Days/Christmas > >24. 8 : P in B > >25. 88 : P K on a K B > >26. 4 : H in a P T > >27. 4 : P in a B > >28. 5 : T on a F > >29. 2 : S to E S Sides to Every Story > >30. 3 : C in a F > >31. 31 : Q in T C From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 8 23:00:24 1997 Message-ID: <34656A22.3995@clara.net> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 23:45:38 -0800 From: David Organization: Persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: <19971108223012Z49651-32308+1848@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 395 Lines: 40 Simon Cooke wrote: > > > > > In message <3464D6DC.2B8A@ndirect.co.uk>, Nev Young > > writes > > > > Spoiler Space... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >7. 9 : P in the S S Planets in the Solar System > > >8. 13 : S on the A F > Stars on the ?? Flag Stripes on the American Flag ? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Nov 9 20:33:28 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3464D6DC.2B8A@ndirect.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 20:16:23 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id UAA03688 Status: RO Content-Length: 1152 Lines: 45 Editing out the ones which have already been answered: (drat, all the easy ones were gone by the time I checked my email....) > 7. 9 : P in the S S Planets in the solar system > 19. l1 : P in a F T Players in a football team > 22. 76 : T in the B P > 25. 88 : P K on a K B Piano keys on a key board > 26. 4 : H in a P T > 27. 4 : P in a B > 28. 5 : T on a F Toes on a foot > 30. 3 : C in a F > 31. 31 : Q in T C Questions in this competition? But nobody's tried answering my question.... what is my .sig file about? Okay, I'll give you an obscure clue. The sig taken from Pinnenstripensuitenwearenfoddergeburnenclippencloppen. HTH Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1TRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Nov 9 21:42:01 1997 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 21:00:53 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id VAA04257 Status: RO Content-Length: 1144 Lines: 24 In message , Andrew Collier writes >But nobody's tried answering my question.... what is my .sig file about? >+----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ >| Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1TRUAT3 | >| 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | >| Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | >| http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | >+----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ I'm guessing it's about 200 bytes too long! ;) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 10 10:34:41 1997 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 05:20:26 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: correction Message-Id: <19971110102044Z49281-690+136@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 218 Lines: 11 Date: 1997-11-10 10:16 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >19. l1 : P in a F T The first character is an L - what should it be? A 1? Yes 11 P in a FT sorry From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 10 10:50:59 1997 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:35:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Brady To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: correction In-Reply-To: <19971110102044Z49281-690+136@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 345 Lines: 19 On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, YOUNG, Neville / IT Life wrote: > Date: 1997-11-10 10:16 > Priority: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >19. l1 : P in a F T > The first character is an L - what should it be? A 1? > > Yes 11 P in a FT > > sorry > > 11 Players in a Football Team Robert Brady From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 10 11:44:58 1997 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 06:39:10 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Slowly drumming fingers... Message-Id: <19971110113928Z49559-690+189@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1299 Lines: 40 Date: 1997-11-10 10:41 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 21:00:53 +0000 >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >From: Graham Goring >Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... > >In message , Andrew Collier > writes > >>But nobody's tried answering my question.... what is my .sig file about? > >>+----------------------------+-------------------------------------------- --+ >>! Andrew Collier ! LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1TRUAT3 ! >>! 1B NatSci at Selwyn ! ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2MLUICXp4XTC ! >>! Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk ! 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 ! >>! http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk ! ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP ! >>+----------------------------+-------------------------------------------- --+ > >I'm guessing it's about 200 bytes too long] ;) I would guess the left hand side is who you are and where you can be contacted. The RHS is IME THFT but I'll throw it at my text2speechconvertor. Glad my puzzle has sparked some interest. If any one cares I lifted it from one of the regional mensa magazines. (That should help with one of the answers) Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 10 12:19:28 1997 Message-ID: <34677570.1E6@clara.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:58:24 -0800 From: David Organization: Persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: <19971108223012Z49651-32308+1848@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 481 Lines: 41 Simon Cooke wrote: > > > > > In message <3464D6DC.2B8A@ndirect.co.uk>, Nev Young > > writes > > > > Spoiler Space... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >21. 64 : S on a C B (U Y A I M) > > Squares/Chess Board/????? Squares on a Chess Board (Unless you are in Mensa)??? Refering to the huge number of possible 2x2 ... 8x8 numbers of squares as well as the 1x1 I suppose? From imc Mon Nov 10 14:10:02 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:10:02 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <19971110113928Z49559-690+189@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" at Nov 10, 97 06:39:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 362 Lines: 10 On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 06:39:10 EST, YOUNG, Neville / IT Life said: > Glad my puzzle has sparked some interest. > If any one cares I lifted it from one of the regional mensa magazines. You'd think Mensa would have a bit more imagination. I first saw this in 1985 (no kidding) and I believe it is on the rec.puzzles FAQL. imc PS 76 trombones in the big parade. From imc Mon Nov 10 15:24:27 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:24:27 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Nov 9, 97 08:16:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 246 Lines: 8 On Sun, 9 Nov 1997 20:16:23 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > > 25. 88 : P K on a K B > Piano keys on a key board My keyboard doesn't have piano keys on it. And my Casio keyboard doesn't have 88 keys on it. This is rather odd phraseology. imc From imc Mon Nov 10 15:29:14 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:29:14 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <971108154712_258471155@mrin47> from "BillRitman@aol.com" at Nov 8, 97 03:47:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 210 Lines: 7 On Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:47:12 -0500 (EST), BillRitman@aol.com said: > PS. Gloucester show wonderful. Picked up so very good secondhand stuff. When > is the next one???? You were there then? Who were you? imc From imc Mon Nov 10 15:48:00 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:48:00 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Nov 7, 97 04:53:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 836 Lines: 21 On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:53:14 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ > | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1TRUAT3 | > | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | > | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | > | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | > +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ Nope, not uuencode. Not rot13 either. Not in standard format for PGP block. Could be an X-Face. Could be anything really. > I'd accuse you of using MS Word if I didn't know you had a Mac (and that 9D is blank in the MS font). So Macs like putting unprintable characters in too, do they? imc From imc Mon Nov 10 16:39:13 1997 Subject: Re: SimCoupe developement snapshot page To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:39:13 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <199711071129.LAA24100@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> from "Dave Hooper" at Nov 7, 97 11:28:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 506 Lines: 13 On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:28:40 +0000, Dave Hooper said: > suppose i've got some sam stuff (code files, screen$, whatever) > stored on my PCs hard drive (as, indeed, i do have). > is there anyway to access them, using simcoupe, without access to a > sam? I seem to remember there being some menus on simcoupe for that. Allan says that "samtools" (which can be used to put files on DSK images) can be compiled on DOS using DJGPP. Anyway Allan should know about all this - I am not an expert on DOS. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 10 18:31:21 1997 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 17:18:02 GMT Message-ID: <702_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2450 Lines: 136 In E-Mail <8mK$CCANAOZ0EwFm@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> Graham Goring wrote:- >In message <3464D6DC.2B8A@ndirect.co.uk>, Nev Young > writes > >Spoiler Space... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>1. 26 : L of the A Ans: 26: Letters of the Alphabet >>2. 16 : O in the P Ounces/Pound >>3. 7 : D of the W >Days/Week >>4. 1001: A N >Arabian Nights >>5. 12 : S of the Z >Signs/Zodiac >>6. 54 : C in a D (with J's) >Cards/Deck(Joker) >>7. 9 : P in the S S Planets in the Solar System >>8. 13 : S on the A F Stars on the American Flag >>9. 32 : D F at which W F >Degree Farenheit/Water Freezes >>10. 18 : H on a G C >Holes/Golf Course >>11. 90 : D in a R A >Degrees/Right Angle >>12. 200 : P for P G in a G of M >Pounds/Passing Go/Game/Monopoly >>13. 7 : S on a F P P >Sides/Fifty Pence Piece >>14. 3 : B M (S H T R) >Blind Mice/See How They Run >>15. 4 : Q in a G >Quarts/Gallon >>16. 24 : H in a D Hours in a Day >>17. 1 : W on a U >>18. 57 : H V >Heinz Varieties >>19. l1 : P in a F T People in a Football Team >>20. 29 : D in F in a L Y >Days/February/Leap Year >>21. 64 : S on a C B (U Y A I M) >Squares/Chess Board/????? Unless you are [something] [something] >>22. 76 : T in the B P >>23. 12 : D of C >Days/Christmas >>24. 8 : P in B >>25. 88 : P K on a K B Erm, something to do with Keys on a Keyboard..? >>26. 4 : H in a P T >>27. 4 : P in a B >>28. 5 : T on a F > >>30. 3 : C in a F >>31. 31 : Q in T C Questions in This Competetion >> > >Graham > >-- > >/====================================================\ +--------------+ >| My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| >| "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | >| Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| >\==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | > My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ > >OASIS_E-Mail: __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "You never know when an old calendar might come in handy. Sure, it's not 1985 right now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?" - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 10 19:48:42 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971110143819.007bdb10@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:38:19 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <199711101548.PAA03274@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id TAA09711 Status: RO Content-Length: 808 Lines: 25 >> | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1TRUAT3 1st line... Hello Katie, Hello Katie, NVS? n OTT DS n free Hello Katie Hello Katie why are you a cutey? one T? are you at three? >> | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC I see you queue for LAD? before you too are one. I see ex p to impound you I see ex p for ecstasy.? >> | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 One nill, one nill, Be ?mine? and RT? before I owe you a T? You are free to NVO? >> | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP I see a ?gash? too? Reply as soon as possible, and I see be too Katie, I see cutey, rest in peace? Erm... there's something in there, but I can't decode all of it. Besides, I'm knackered :) Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 10 20:49:20 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971110143819.007bdb10@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> References: <199711101548.PAA03274@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 20:40:53 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id UAA10822 Status: RO Content-Length: 2828 Lines: 121 Good try. The Ballad Of Mark And Katy by "Why?" from their latest album, Pinnenstripensuitenwearenfoddergeburnenclippencloppen. Available in all slightly-obscure record stores near you. Unnecessary spoiler space... 5 4 3 2 1 >LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1TRUAT3 ~ Apologies for the error >1st line... Hello Katie, Hello Katie, NVS? n OTT DS n free Hello Katie >Hello Katie why are you a cutey? one T? are you at three? Chorus: Hello Katy, Hello Katy, Envious and naughty, tedious and free. Hello Katy, Hello Katy, Why are you a cutie one? Why are you eighty-three? >>> | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC > >I see you queue for LAD? before you too are one. I see ex p to impound you >I see ex p for ecstasy.? Verse 1: I see you queue for a lady Before you two are one. I see expense to impound you, I see expense for ecstacy. >>> | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 > >One nill, one nill, Be ?mine? and RT? before I owe you a T? You are free to >NVO? Verse 2: One love, one love. Benign and arty. Before I owe you a tee, You are free to envy nothing. >>> | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP > >I see a ?gash? too? Reply as soon as possible, and I see be too >Katie, I see cutey, rest in peace? I see a note to question, Mark. Please reply as soon as possible. And I see full stop be to Katy, I see cutie rest in peace. >Erm... there's something in there, but I can't decode all of it. Besides, >I'm knackered :) > >Simon I guess they were running out of ideas towards the end.... I could bore you with some more of Why?'s incomparable lyrics.... "My first girlfriend was Esmarelda, She worked the nightshift as a welder. I rue the day when I first held her 'cos it was night and she was welding at the time" and later on... "My fourth girlfriend is nonexistant. A Rolex watch is water-resistant. A dripping tap is very persistant. DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP I'm sorry but I needed one more verse" And Chris on our corridor has the cheek to say *I* listen to wierd music! (This is _his_ CD....) What's wrong with "The Paradiddle Song"? Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 10 23:18:09 1997 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 23:08:42 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 399 Lines: 20 On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Graham Goring wrote: > In message , Mr M A > Sturdy writes > > > >On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Graham Goring wrote: > > > >> Do and Andrew and Bob *have* any fans? ;) > >> > >> Graham > > > > > >GRAHAM, YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!! > > YOU SCISSORS! I WIN! ROCK BLUNT SCISSORS! HA HA HA! > > Graham > Graham, you suck. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 10 23:34:38 1997 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 23:26:18 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <971108154712_258471155@mrin47> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 278 Lines: 8 On Sat, 8 Nov 1997 BillRitman@aol.com wrote: > > PS. Gloucester show wonderful. Picked up so very good secondhand stuff. When > is the next one???? > Northern SAM and Spectrum Show, Wetherby Methodist Hall, Saturday 21st February 1998. Just thought I'd remind everyone. :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 00:10:18 1997 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 23:57:16 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 291 Lines: 12 On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, Andrew Collier wrote: > Good try. > > The Ballad Of Mark And Katy > by "Why?" from their latest album, > Pinnenstripensuitenwearenfoddergeburnenclippencloppen. > Available in all slightly-obscure record stores near you. > But I don't know anyone called Katy . . . From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 00:10:18 1997 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 23:57:54 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 275 Lines: 11 On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, Andrew Collier wrote: > Good try. > > The Ballad Of Mark And Katy > by "Why?" from their latest album, > Pinnenstripensuitenwearenfoddergeburnenclippencloppen. > Available in all slightly-obscure record stores near you. > Oh, hang on, I do actually. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 00:32:20 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:21:06 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id AAA19686 Status: RO Content-Length: 810 Lines: 26 Mark Sturdy wrote at 7:57 am 11/11/97: >> The Ballad Of Mark And Katy >> by "Why?" from their latest album, >> Pinnenstripensuitenwearenfoddergeburnenclippencloppen. >> Available in all slightly-obscure record stores near you. >> > >But I don't know anyone called Katy . . . Why did this message arrive tomorrow morning? Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 00:42:58 1997 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 97 00:32:16 GMT Message-ID: <703_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 539 Lines: 24 In E-Mail <702_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) wrote:- >>>8. 13 : S on the A F > >Stars on the American Flag *Stripes* - Sorry, I was half asleep. __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "You never know when an old calendar might come in handy. Sure, it's not 1985 right now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?" - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 01:59:25 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 20:59:24 GMT+0 Subject: Bizarre... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <140B8309E@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 423 Lines: 14 Just me? I'm getting messages coming in short bursts, from days ago, but in the wrong order. I got the answers to Nev's quiz before I got the bleedin questions! Just thought I'd have my say, so that the problem will be sorted out before you read this (and so that I might look suitably stupid once again...) Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "One by one...only the good die young." From imc Tue Nov 11 11:16:59 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:16:59 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Nov 11, 97 00:21:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 193 Lines: 7 On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:21:06 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > Why did this message arrive tomorrow morning? Because Mark is just one of the many people who have their timezone set wrong... imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 12:27:15 1997 Message-Id: <199711111214.MAA27752@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:14:10 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-reply-to: References: <3.0.1.32.19971110143819.007bdb10@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 457 Lines: 10 > And Chris on our corridor has the cheek to say *I* listen to wierd music! > (This is _his_ CD....) What's wrong with "The Paradiddle Song"? but, are you forgetting the fundamental connection between weird and good? people say I listen to weird music, but they are wrong. I listen to good stuff, just by obscure bands n' things. however, some people i know, i would say listen to weird music. weird, in the sense that most of it is complete bollocks. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 12:27:18 1997 Message-Id: <199711111217.MAA28590@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:17:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-reply-to: <199711101410.OAA02712@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <19971110113928Z49559-690+189@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" at Nov 10, 97 06:39:10 am X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 83 Lines: 5 > PS 76 trombones in the big parade. yeh, i saw that too. 1000 = W that a P is W From imc Tue Nov 11 12:30:57 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:30:57 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <199711111217.MAA28590@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> from "Dave Hooper" at Nov 11, 97 12:17:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 106 Lines: 6 On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:17:22 +0000, Dave Hooper said: > 1000 = W that a P is W words picture worth imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 12:59:53 1997 Message-Id: <199711111244.MAA06173@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:44:11 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-reply-to: <199711111230.MAA05060@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <199711111217.MAA28590@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> from "Dave Hooper" at Nov 11, 97 12:17:22 pm X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 42 Lines: 6 > words picture worth doh! could be... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 13:13:01 1997 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:03:07 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Extra puzzle Message-Id: <19971111130320Z49264-690+1126@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 182 Lines: 12 Date: 1997-11-11 12:59 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 44: YOT Free pint to the first correct answer received. Nev 3408 From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 16:40:51 1997 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:17:51 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <703_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 823 Lines: 28 In message <703_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk>, James R Curry writes > > > In E-Mail <702_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> > James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) wrote:- > >>>>8. 13 : S on the A F >> >>Stars on the American Flag > >*Stripes* - Sorry, I was half asleep. > No, no, that's the right answer James... If you have a TARDIS, that is. ;) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 16:40:52 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Extra puzzle References: <19971111130320Z49264-690+1126@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 11 Nov 1997 13:54:05 +0000 In-Reply-To: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life"'s message of "Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:03:07 EST" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 244 Lines: 15 "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" writes: > Date: 1997-11-11 12:59 > Priority: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > 44: YOT > Years old today? Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 22:25:39 1997 Message-ID: <3468D99B.7840@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:18:03 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: <199711101410.OAA02712@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 883 Lines: 21 Ian Collier wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 06:39:10 EST, YOUNG, Neville / IT Life said: > > Glad my puzzle has sparked some interest. > > If any one cares I lifted it from one of the regional mensa magazines. > > You'd think Mensa would have a bit more imagination. I first saw this > in 1985 (no kidding) and I believe it is on the rec.puzzles FAQL. Well it was the Welsh region look you. :) -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 22:25:40 1997 Message-ID: <3468D8BD.43B2@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:14:21 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Extra puzzle References: <19971111130320Z49264-690+1126@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 682 Lines: 23 Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" writes:> > > Date: 1997-11-11 12:59 > > Priority: > > > > 44: YOT > Years old today? > Lee. Oh how sad. The pint is Lee's. -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 11 22:52:22 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711111214.MAA27752@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> References: <3.0.1.32.19971110143819.007bdb10@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:32:00 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id WAA22621 Status: RO Content-Length: 1547 Lines: 40 >> And Chris on our corridor has the cheek to say *I* listen to wierd music! >> (This is _his_ CD....) What's wrong with "The Paradiddle Song"? > >but, are you forgetting the fundamental connection between weird and >good? I never said Chris's wierd music wasn't good... >people say I listen to weird music, but they are wrong. I listen >to good stuff, just by obscure bands n' things. I think that's what he means when he says it to me. I mean, for example, I have many CDs by Toto - who were never that famous over here despite being *really* big in America for a time. And their guitarist Steve Lukather has done several totally excellent solo albums. But that doesn't stop them being obscure, at least over here. And then there's the stuff I'll admit is wierd - much of which is by Mike Oldfield. You're not telling me he could have kept a straight face throughout recording Amarok... >however, some people i know, i would say listen to weird music. >weird, in the sense that most of it is complete bollocks. I can relate to that. Chumbawamba, anyone? Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 12 17:08:59 1997 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:01:02 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <199711111117.LAA04821@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 265 Lines: 12 On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Ian Collier wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:21:06 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > > Why did this message arrive tomorrow morning? > > Because Mark is just one of the many people who have their timezone set > wrong... > > imc > Give a shit. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 12 17:55:19 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:20:35 +0000 To: "Sam users' mailing list" From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id RAA26196 Status: RO Content-Length: 669 Lines: 24 On Thu, at 1:01 am,13 Nov 1997, Mark Sturdy will write: >> Because Mark is just one of the many people who have their timezone set >> wrong... >> >> imc >> >Give a shit. Yes, we do. Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 12 21:05:47 1997 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:45:38 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no cc: "Sam users' mailing list" Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 410 Lines: 18 On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Andrew Collier wrote: > On Thu, at 1:01 am,13 Nov 1997, Mark Sturdy will write: > > >> Because Mark is just one of the many people who have their timezone set > >> wrong... > >> > >> imc > >> > >Give a shit. > > Yes, we do. > > Andrew > In that case, you may wish to contact the computer services department of Warwick University. I would do so myself, but I don't give a shit. ;> From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 12 22:24:12 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:15:43 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id WAA01127 Status: RO Content-Length: 664 Lines: 20 >In that case, you may wish to contact the computer services department of >Warwick University. I would do so myself, but I don't give a shit. ;> I heard you the first time :) Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From imc Wed Nov 12 23:25:53 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: from Mark Sturdy at "Nov 12, 97 08:45:38 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:25:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 309 Lines: 8 On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:45:38 -0800 (PST), Mark Sturdy said: > In that case, you may wish to contact the computer services department of > Warwick University. If `pc-cl-191' happens to be a Windows 31 or DOS machine then (find a proper machine or) get them to put `SET TZ=GMT0BST' in the autoexec.bat. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 12 23:46:13 1997 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:32:08 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Ian Dalziel Subject: Re: Bizarre... In-Reply-To: <140B8309E@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 513 Lines: 14 In article <140B8309E@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk>, The Mad Goose writes >I'm getting messages coming in short bursts, from days ago, but in >the wrong order. I got the answers to Nev's quiz before I got the >bleedin questions! > 'S already been explained, Johnna - obviously you're one of those people who have your time zone set wrongly. In other words, you're not where you should be in the continuum. (Course, in your case, that should read - it will be explained shortly) -- Ian Dalziel From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 00:50:16 1997 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 20:45:36 GMT Message-ID: <717_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 707 Lines: 33 Mark Sturdy said:- >On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Ian Collier wrote: > >> On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:21:06 +0000, Andrew Collier said: >> > Why did this message arrive tomorrow morning? >> >> Because Mark is just one of the many people who have their timezone set >> wrong... >> >> imc >> >Give a shit. Oh, that's VERY nice Mark. BTW Ian, is my timezone correct? __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "You never know when an old calendar might come in handy. Sure, it's not 1985 right now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?" - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 00:50:16 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:44:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Dave To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: The Scrapbook Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 756 Lines: 18 Does anyone know if something has happened to the website? Links 1-10 (with the exception of Sim Coupe - which is off the site anyway) are all generating "not found" errors. Just thought I'd bring it to people's attention. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Fulton (D.A.Fulton@durham.ac.uk) Trevelyan College, University of Durham. http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d60m3c/ "All dwarfs are by nature dutiful, serious, literate, obdient and thoughtful people whose only minor failing is a tendency, after one drink, to rush at enemies screaming "Arrrrrrgh!" and axing their legs off at the knee" -- (Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 01:04:46 1997 Message-ID: <346ACC8D.4E1F@clara.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 01:46:53 -0800 From: David Organization: Persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: The Scrapbook References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 394 Lines: 11 Dave wrote: > > Does anyone know if something has happened to the website? > > Links 1-10 (with the exception of Sim Coupe - which is off the site > anyway) are all generating "not found" errors. > > Just thought I'd bring it to people's attention. I think it's actually something going on with Mono.org - as I've had a problem myself accessing another site there... Tim? What's the score? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 11:15:05 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:58:28 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Paveley To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: The Scrapbook In-Reply-To: <346ACC8D.4E1F@clara.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1319 Lines: 35 On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, David wrote: >Dave wrote: >> Does anyone know if something has happened to the website? >> Links 1-10 (with the exception of Sim Coupe - which is off the site >> anyway) are all generating "not found" errors. >I think it's actually something going on with Mono.org - as I've had a >problem myself accessing another site there... Tim? What's the score? Urm, hold on, I'll look :) My home directory has disappeared from the looks of it. My net access is a bit naff at the mo (spod cafe twice a week). Mono.Org had a big hard disk failure a few weeks ago (concerning the BBS files disk), that's in the process of being replaced, so at a guess the had disk mounted on /home has been taken off line. To be honest that's a guess and I really don't have a clue, more details when I know. As for why the first page was coming up, urm, could be cached? (sighs, it always seems that one of my servers is dodgy, mono.org seems to go down every couple of months, though this is the worst so far I think) Apologies etc, beyond my control etc, unles anyone wants to donate a fat hard disk to mono.org :) ....@/ .........................................................................@/ Unc - Tim Paveley - http://dplinux.sund.ac.uk/~unc/ Owner of some broken web pages - http://www.mono.org/~unc/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 12:31:32 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:31:14 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Paveley To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: The Scrapbook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 196 Lines: 7 Further to last email. The /home directory and /bbs directories are currently being restored onto a new hard disk, hopefully it should all be back up again sometime later this afternoon. ....@/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 17:29:04 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Extra puzzle References: <19971111130320Z49264-690+1126@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> <3468D8BD.43B2@ndirect.co.uk> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 13 Nov 1997 17:21:06 +0000 In-Reply-To: Nev Young's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:14:21 +0000" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 364 Lines: 21 Nev Young writes: > Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > > "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" writes:> > > > Date: 1997-11-11 12:59 > > > Priority: > > > > > > 44: YOT > > Years old today? > > Lee. > > Oh how sad. > The pint is Lee's. I'll hold you to that next time I'm home ... Congrats. by the way! Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 17:43:32 1997 Message-Id: <199711131731.RAA26430@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:31:19 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Extra puzzle References: Nev Young's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:14:21 +0000" In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 105 Lines: 8 You are in a cave. Exists are north and west. > -- > Yawn And Walk North > i just don't understand. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 17:59:35 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:54:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Brady To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Extra puzzle In-Reply-To: <199711131731.RAA26430@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 281 Lines: 16 On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Dave Hooper wrote: > You are in a cave. Exists are north and west. > > > -- > > Yawn And Walk North > > > > > i just don't understand. > It's probably just a concincidence, but the "Y.A.W.N." is a recursive acronym.. like "GNU" or "PINE" Robert Brady From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 18:19:01 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Extra puzzle References: X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 13 Nov 1997 18:11:58 +0000 In-Reply-To: Robert Brady's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:54:28 +0000 (GMT)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 523 Lines: 29 Robert Brady writes: > On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Dave Hooper wrote: > > > You are in a cave. Exists are north and west. > > > > > -- > > > Yawn And Walk North > > > > i just don't understand. See http://yawn.nocrew.org > It's probably just a concincidence, but the "Y.A.W.N." is a > recursive acronym.. like "GNU" or "PINE" No coincidence, it was meant to be like that, it also stands for Yet Another Web Navigator from the YACC school of application naming! HTH Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 18:19:01 1997 Message-Id: <199711131813.SAA04052@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:12:54 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Extra puzzle References: <199711131731.RAA26430@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 569 Lines: 21 > It's probably just a concincidence, but the "Y.A.W.N." is a > recursive acronym.. like "GNU" or "PINE" Is that a recursive acronym? I agree that PINE is (Pine Is Not Elm) but yawn... it's just a verb... i mean, is Stefan Tried Eating Fish And Nuts a recursive acronym? just a thought. if it is... then i can walk out of this computer lab happy to know that i have learnt something new. and that would be good. because today has been boring. although i have finished building a mouse controller (yay) for a bbc mouse (boo) and its output is analogue (erk) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 18:33:02 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Extra puzzle References: <199711131731.RAA26430@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> <199711131813.SAA04052@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 13 Nov 1997 18:23:35 +0000 In-Reply-To: "Dave Hooper"'s message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:12:54 +0000" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 419 Lines: 15 "Dave Hooper" <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> writes: > > It's probably just a concincidence, but the "Y.A.W.N." is a > > recursive acronym.. like "GNU" or "PINE" > > Is that a recursive acronym? > I agree that PINE is (Pine Is Not Elm) but yawn... it's just a > verb... Depends on whether your scanner recognizes it as a verb or acronym first! Lee. (Whose last lecture was Advanced Compilers) -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 18:33:02 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:27:42 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <199711122325.XAA22147@ruby.comlab> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 887 Lines: 19 On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Ian Collier wrote: > On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:45:38 -0800 (PST), Mark Sturdy said: > > In that case, you may wish to contact the computer services department of > > Warwick University. > > If `pc-cl-191' happens to be a Windows 31 or DOS machine then (find a proper > machine or) get them to put `SET TZ=GMT0BST' in the autoexec.bat. > > imc > I see a little shilouetto of a man. Skaramoush, skaramoush, will you do the fandango? Thunderbolts and lightning, very very frigtning me. I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me. He's just a poor boy from a poor family, sparing his life from this monstrosity. Easy come, easy go, will you let me go? Bismillah, NO! We will not let you go. LET HIM GO! Bismillah, NO! We will not let you go. LET HIM GO! No no no no no no no no. Oh mama mia mama mia mama mia let me go. Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 18:40:17 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 13 Nov 1997 18:33:29 +0000 In-Reply-To: Mark Sturdy's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:27:42 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 169 Lines: 9 Mark Sturdy writes: [Snipped Bohemian Rahpsody] I found this plot down the back of my sofa. Could it be yours? Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 18:40:17 1997 Message-Id: <199711131834.SAA07583@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:34:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Extra puzzle References: "Dave Hooper"'s message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:12:54 +0000" In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 210 Lines: 6 > Lee. (Whose last lecture was Advanced Compilers) heh. i guess this is something i still have to look forward to. maybe. maybe not. maybe i could give compilers a miss. who knows? not me by the sound of it. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 19:21:57 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:10:10 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 288 Lines: 13 On 13 Nov 1997, Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > Mark Sturdy writes: > > [Snipped Bohemian Rahpsody] > > I found this plot down the back of my sofa. Could it be yours? > > Lee. > -- > Yawn And Walk North > Sorry, but I haven't a clue what you're on about old bean. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 19:35:48 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:30:14 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 258 Lines: 13 On 13 Nov 1997, Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > Mark Sturdy writes: > > [Snipped Bohemian Rahpsody] > > I found this plot down the back of my sofa. Could it be yours? > > Lee. > -- > Yawn And Walk North > Oh hang on, I've got it now. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 19:35:48 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:30:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 241 Lines: 13 On 13 Nov 1997, Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > Mark Sturdy writes: > > [Snipped Bohemian Rahpsody] > > I found this plot down the back of my sofa. Could it be yours? > > Lee. > -- > Yawn And Walk North > Cheeky get. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 20:20:16 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:13:49 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Where's Terry? Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 153 Lines: 4 Does anyone know Terry Ekins/Jupiter's new email address? The only one I've got is terry@tresham.co.uk (or whatever) off the Scrapbook. Anyone? Mark. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 20:39:21 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:39:59 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Paveley To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Where's Terry? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 683 Lines: 19 On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Mark Sturdy wrote: >Does anyone know Terry Ekins/Jupiter's new email address? The only one >I've got is terry@tresham.co.uk (or whatever) off the Scrapbook. Anyone? Ah, the problems of people losing/changing email and not letting people know ;) quick straw poll, of all the people who have given permission for me to publise their email address on the web page, would people object to a spam email from me every few months (probably 6) just to check for non-existant emails? would be useful for catching ex-students :) ....@/ Oh, web pages should be back tommorrow morning. the restoration is complete, just needs remounting, or rebooting or something. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 13 21:16:27 1997 Message-ID: <346BE955.6B3D@clara.net> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:01:57 -0800 From: David Organization: Persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Where's Terry? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 416 Lines: 13 Tim Paveley wrote: > quick straw poll, of all the people who have given permission for me to > publise their email address on the web page, would people object to a spam > email from me every few months (probably 6) just to check for non-existant > emails? Np! > Oh, web pages should be back tommorrow morning. the restoration is > complete, just needs remounting, or rebooting or something. Good to hear it! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 14 14:35:49 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:07:49 +0100 (MET) From: Allan Skillman X-Sender: allan@hpopl1.cern.ch To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: SimCoupe gains a voice (All 6 of them) (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1004 Lines: 28 Hello All, I have just uploaded the latest developement release of SimCoupe for DOS (binary only), onto my developement snapshot page. This version (v0.74) is the first to include Aley Keprt's SAA 1009 emulator. If your machine has a compatible sound card then SimCoupe will now produce six channel stereo sound. The URL is : http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ajs/simcoupe/simcoupe_snapshot.html There are also a few improvements and bug fixes to the main code and more software should run Please let me know how you get on. regards Allan +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Allan Skillman | "There are five flavours of resons, the | | HEPP Group | elementary particles of magic : up, down, | | University College London | sideways, sex-appeal and peppermint." | | Email : ajs@hep.ucl.ac.uk | - Terry Pratchett (Lords and Ladies) | +------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 15 14:21:14 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 14:14:32 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Where's Terry? X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id OAA26972 Status: RO Content-Length: 1086 Lines: 28 >quick straw poll, of all the people who have given permission for me to >publise their email address on the web page, would people object to a spam >email from me every few months (probably 6) just to check for non-existant >emails? You can use mine too if you like. I don't mind getting a few emails. And there's the web page too; those who tend to disagree with my opinions are advised not to point your browesrs to http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk/sam/ >Oh, web pages should be back tommorrow morning. the restoration is >complete, just needs remounting, or rebooting or something. Seems fine now. Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Nov 16 14:41:27 1997 Message-ID: <346EAD2D.3046@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 08:22:05 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sams users mail list Subject: another puzzle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 652 Lines: 22 Look they're not hard just fun (thats what I was told) Place the letters in 4x4 grids to make four words the same across & down 1 AACCEEENNNNOSTWW 2 AACEMMNOOOOOTTTT -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Nov 16 17:53:17 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <346EAD2D.3046@ndirect.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 17:41:59 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: another puzzle X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id RAA17271 Status: RO Content-Length: 758 Lines: 60 >Look they're not hard just fun (thats what I was told) > >Place the letters in 4x4 grids to make four words the >same across & down > >1 >AACCEEENNNNOSTWW Spoiler space.... 5 4 3 2 1 SCAN CONE ANEW NEWT >2 >AACEMMNOOOOOTTTT I'm working on it... Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From imc Sun Nov 16 18:34:44 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:34:44 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <717_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> from "James R Curry" at Nov 12, 97 08:45:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 188 Lines: 7 On Wed, 12 Nov 97 20:45:36 GMT, James R Curry said: > BTW Ian, is my timezone correct? As far as I can tell it is (although you didn't connect for four hours after you wrote that). imc From imc Sun Nov 16 18:40:59 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:40:59 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Nov 10, 97 08:40:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 419 Lines: 14 On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 20:40:53 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > The Ballad Of Mark And Katy > by "Why?" from their latest album, > Pinnenstripensuitenwearenfoddergeburnenclippencloppen. > Available in all slightly-obscure record stores near you. [rubbish snipped] And did we want to know that? I don't think so... If you got rid of that from your sig you might be able to get it down to the regulation four lines. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Nov 16 19:57:48 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711161840.SAA17265@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: from "Andrew Collier" at Nov 10, 97 08:40:53 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:47:59 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id TAA18946 Status: RO Content-Length: 608 Lines: 18 >If you got rid of that from your sig you might be able to get it down to >the regulation four lines. Switch no Damerell Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 17 00:00:08 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <346EAD2D.3046@ndirect.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:47:39 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: another puzzle X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id XAA22308 Status: RO Content-Length: 763 Lines: 59 >>Look they're not hard just fun (thats what I was told) >> >>Place the letters in 4x4 grids to make four words the >>same across & down ... >>2 >>AACEMMNOOOOOTTTT > >I'm working on it... I've got it now... Spoiler space: 5 4 3 2 1 COAT ONTO ATOM TOME Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From imc Mon Nov 17 00:16:52 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 00:16:53 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Nov 16, 97 07:47:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 142 Lines: 6 On Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:47:59 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > Switch no Damerell Too late. :-) And you still have a 9D at the end of it. imc From imc Mon Nov 17 00:47:00 1997 Subject: Re: another puzzle To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 00:47:00 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Nov 16, 97 11:47:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 135 Lines: 6 On Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:47:39 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > ONTO Which isn't really a word (still, it's better than *"upto"...). imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 17 09:07:40 1997 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Slowly drumming fingers... Message-Id: <19971117090020Z49647-9217+142@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 762 Lines: 32 Date: 1997-11-17 08:59 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you got rid of that from your sig you might be able to get it down to >the regulation four lines. and what regulation is this ? IIRC its only demon.local & aol Real people can have useful long sigs. and good mail software snips anything after the -- in the reply Now if you want to make things useful ask people not to post in smtp/mime as all I get here is. This mail item was sent in SMTP/MIME format, and may have contained encoded binary body parts. Any such body parts have been extracted and sent to you as individual items. (yes I know the mail software here is shite. What do you expect from Micro$oft) Nev. -- the real .sig From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 17 11:41:29 1997 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <00256552.003E8A37.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:25:13 +0000 Subject: Re: Where's Terry? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 415 Lines: 15 >quick straw poll, of all the people who have given permission for me to >publise their email address on the web page, would people object to a spam >email from me every few months (probably 6) just to check for non-existant >emails? I can't remember whethe I replied to this or not... I'm quite happy for my email to be publicised on the webpage with "purpose" as "developing MIDI tools"... Justin Skists From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 17 12:31:32 1997 Message-Id: <199711171214.MAA23981@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:14:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Where's Terry? In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 388 Lines: 12 > >quick straw poll, of all the people who have given permission for me to > >publise their email address on the web page, would people object to a spam > >email from me every few months (probably 6) just to check for non-existant > >emails? for what it's worth, you should probably be changing mine from whatever it is to no-brain@mindless.com i'm not gonna be a student forever... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 17 17:14:18 1997 Message-Id: <199711171256.MAA04774@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:55:34 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: another puzzle In-reply-to: <199711170047.AAA17955@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: from "Andrew Collier" at Nov 16, 97 11:47:39 pm X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 143 Lines: 12 > > ONTO > > Which isn't really a word (still, it's better than *"upto"...). huh? how is ONTO not a word? it's not like alot, you know. From imc Mon Nov 17 20:05:45 1997 Subject: Re: another puzzle To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:05:45 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <199711171256.MAA04774@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> from "Dave Hooper" at Nov 17, 97 12:55:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 352 Lines: 12 On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:55:34 +0000, Dave Hooper said: > how is ONTO not a word? OK, it is a word, sort of, but the Concise Oxford describes it as "prep disp" and has this to say: The form "onto" is still not fully accepted in the way that "into" is, although it is in wide use. If you look in an older dictionary I doubt you will find it. imc From imc Mon Nov 17 20:26:33 1997 Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:26:33 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <19971117090020Z49647-9217+142@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" at Nov 17, 97 03:59:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 778 Lines: 27 On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST, YOUNG, Neville / IT Life said: > >the regulation four lines. > and what regulation is this ? It is a generally accepted rule. At least one of the regular postings in news.announce.newusers mentions it. > Real people can have useful long sigs. I doubt it. > and good mail software snips anything after the > -- > in the reply Irrelevant. > Now if you want to make things useful ask people not to post in smtp/mime > as all I get here is. If I can't ask people to stick to 4-line sigs, you can't ask people to stop posting in MIME... :-) it's a standard, and besides many mail agents use it automatically without the knowledge of the user (especially *&^%ing Pine, which will `base64' any attachment even if it is in plain text). imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 17 20:57:44 1997 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:35:20 -0800 (PST) From: MR M A STURDY To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <199711172026.UAA20382@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: PYUMI@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 179 Lines: 7 On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Ian Collier wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST, YOUNG, Neville / IT Life said: > > > Real people can have useful long sigs. What, like Superkings? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 17 20:57:56 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:07:20 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Where's Terry? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <874A16C61@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 525 Lines: 16 Lo, > quick straw poll, of all the people who have given permission for me to > publise their email address on the web page, would people object to a spam > email from me every few months (probably 6) just to check for non-existant > emails? > Erm... no problem. Dunno what purpose I serve anymore tho'. And could you use the Johnnapig@deathsdoor.com address perlease...I'll be keeping it after I'm a student... Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "One by one...only the good die young." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 17 21:21:13 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711172005.UAA20330@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <199711171256.MAA04774@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> from "Dave Hooper" at Nov 17, 97 12:55:34 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:01:40 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: another puzzle X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id VAA23432 Status: RO Content-Length: 1199 Lines: 37 >On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:55:34 +0000, Dave Hooper said: >> how is ONTO not a word? > >OK, it is a word, sort of, but the Concise Oxford describes it as "prep disp" >and has this to say: > > The form "onto" is still not fully accepted in the way that "into" is, > although it is in wide use. > >If you look in an older dictionary I doubt you will find it. > >imc Alternatively, if you look in the Oxford Wordfinder, it will tell you the above but also: It is, however, useful in distinguishing sense as between we drove on to the beach (i.e. in that direction) and we drove onto the beach (i.e. in contact with it). It is also useful for solving otherwise impossible word puzzles :) Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 17 22:03:08 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971117164721.007be820@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:47:21 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: References: <199711172026.UAA20382@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 111 Lines: 9 >> > Real people can have useful long sigs. > >What, like Superkings? Nah... like the Marlboro Man... :) Si From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Nov 17 22:40:45 1997 Message-ID: <3470C5C3.7124@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:31:32 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: <199711172026.UAA20382@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1404 Lines: 41 Ian Collier wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST, YOUNG, Neville / IT Life said: > > >the regulation four lines. > > and what regulation is this ? > It is a generally accepted rule. At least one of the regular postings > in news.announce.newusers mentions it. But But But - this isn't usenet ! > > Real people can have useful long sigs. > I doubt it. > > and good mail software snips anything after the > > -- > > in the reply> > Irrelevant. As always > > Now if you want to make things useful ask people not to post in smtp/mime > > as all I get here is. > If I can't ask people to stick to 4-line sigs, you can't ask people to stop > posting in MIME... :-) it's a standard, and besides many mail agents use it > automatically without the knowledge of the user (especially *&^%ing Pine, > which will `base64' any attachment even if it is in plain text). Well _you_ would say that wouldn't you. :-) -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 18 01:39:57 1997 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:04:54 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <199711172026.UAA20382@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2744 Lines: 64 In message <199711172026.UAA20382@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Ian Collier writes >On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST, YOUNG, Neville / IT Life said: >> >the regulation four lines. > >> and what regulation is this ? > >It is a generally accepted rule. At least one of the regular postings >in news.announce.newusers mentions it. > >> Real people can have useful long sigs. > >I doubt it. > >> and good mail software snips anything after the >> -- >> in the reply > >Irrelevant. > >> Now if you want to make things useful ask people not to post in smtp/mime >> as all I get here is. > >If I can't ask people to stick to 4-line sigs, you can't ask people to stop >posting in MIME... :-) it's a standard, and besides many mail agents use it >automatically without the knowledge of the user (especially *&^%ing Pine, >which will `base64' any attachment even if it is in plain text). I quite agree, but... Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ /------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Hello and welcome to this, the first and last giant SIG-O-RAMA! | | Concieved in a manner purely to annoy Ian Collier, this sig is | | intended to be bloated, over-long, and a pain in the arse to all | | involved. I will now cite my favourite colours in no particular | | order... | | YELLOW, GREEN, PINK, RED, BROWN, BLACK (Though technically not a | | colour), MAUVE, TURQUOIS, ORANGE, RED, OCHRE, OCTARINE, SHEEP | | CRAP (Greeny-brown), MAGNOLIA, BLUE, CYAN, MAGENTA, PURPLE and | | many more... | \--------------------------\ /------------------------/ \--------------/ XXX XXXXX XXXX XXX XXXX XXX X X XXX X X X X X X X X X X XX XX X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X XXX X X XXX XXXXX X X XXXXX XXXX XXXXX X X XXXXX X X X X X X X X X X X X X x X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X XXX XXXXX XXX XXX X X X X X X X X V.1 I like to think that a more mature person wouldn't have done this... :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 18 01:50:39 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199711172026.UAA20382@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:45:05 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id BAA03299 Status: RO Content-Length: 837 Lines: 22 > | YELLOW, GREEN, PINK, RED, BROWN, BLACK (Though technically not a | > | colour), MAUVE, TURQUOIS, ORANGE, RED, OCHRE, OCTARINE, SHEEP | PLEASE let's not have the old "black is not a colour, oh yes it is, oh no it isn't, oh yes it is" thread... there was quite enough grammar checking about this time last year :( This is not a question? Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+dre From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 18 10:01:55 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:50:53 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Slowly drumming fingers... Message-Id: <19971118095200Z49796-31831+303@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 338 Lines: 20 Date: 1997-11-18 09:26 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Graham Goring >I quite agree, but... >Graham >I like to think that a more mature person wouldn't have done this... :) Truly excellent Graham. Had me ROTFL Nev - From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 18 20:33:56 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 97 19:54:42 GMT Message-ID: <734_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 710 Lines: 27 In E-Mail <199711161834.SAA17214@griffle.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Ian Collier wrote:- >On Wed, 12 Nov 97 20:45:36 GMT, James R Curry said: >> BTW Ian, is my timezone correct? > >As far as I can tell it is (although you didn't connect for four hours after >you wrote that). Yeah, I had a stack of replies to write. And I was hungry. :) __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "You never know when an old calendar might come in handy. Sure, it's not 1985 right now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?" - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 19 08:09:42 1997 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:46:34 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Ian Dalziel Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 603 Lines: 14 In article , Graham Goring signifies megasnip... > | involved. I will now cite my favourite colours in no particular | > | order... | > | YELLOW, GREEN, PINK, RED, BROWN, BLACK (Though technically not a | > | colour), MAUVE, TURQUOIS, ORANGE, RED, OCHRE, OCTARINE, SHEEP | > | CRAP (Greeny-brown), MAGNOLIA, BLUE, CYAN, MAGENTA, PURPLE and | Octarine? If you list octarine, it has to com first (or possibly eighth) or IT WILL TAKE OFFENCE -- Ian Dalziel From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 19 17:55:03 1997 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:36:36 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1226 Lines: 28 In message , Ian Dalziel writes >In article , Graham Goring > signifies >megasnip... >> | involved. I will now cite my favourite colours in no particular | >> | order... | >> | YELLOW, GREEN, PINK, RED, BROWN, BLACK (Though technically not a | >> | colour), MAUVE, TURQUOIS, ORANGE, RED, OCHRE, OCTARINE, SHEEP | >> | CRAP (Greeny-brown), MAGNOLIA, BLUE, CYAN, MAGENTA, PURPLE and | > >Octarine? If you list octarine, it has to com first (or possibly eighth) >or IT WILL TAKE OFFENCE Okay... It's only a book... (Blimey) :) Btw, what does anyone think of JINGO? Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 19 18:59:17 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971119131253.007bf810@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:12:53 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 187 Lines: 8 At 04:36 PM 11/19/97 +0000, you wrote: >Okay... It's only a book... (Blimey) :) > >Btw, what does anyone think of JINGO? ARGHHHHH!!! GET ME BACK TO THE UK, SO I CAN READ IT!!!!!! Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 19 19:45:47 1997 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 97 18:44:48 GMT Message-ID: <757_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 643 Lines: 27 In E-Mail <3.0.1.32.19971119131253.007bf810@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> >At 04:36 PM 11/19/97 +0000, you wrote: >>Okay... It's only a book... (Blimey) :) >> >>Btw, what does anyone think of JINGO? > >ARGHHHHH!!! GET ME BACK TO THE UK, SO I CAN READ IT!!!!!! Hmm, must remember to buy it tommorow. :) __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "You never know when an old calendar might come in handy. Sure, it's not 1985 right now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?" - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 19 19:45:47 1997 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:12:36 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971119131253.007bf810@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1133 Lines: 32 In message <3.0.1.32.19971119131253.007bf810@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>, Simon Cooke writes >At 04:36 PM 11/19/97 +0000, you wrote: >>Okay... It's only a book... (Blimey) :) >> >>Btw, what does anyone think of JINGO? > >ARGHHHHH!!! GET ME BACK TO THE UK, SO I CAN READ IT!!!!!! Oh, don't worry, I'm sure the 'merkins will get it in a year or so. :) By the way, not to twist the dagger or anything but it's REALLY REALLY GOOD so far... Bwoo-ha-ha! I am evil incarnate! ;) Seriously though, it is good, it's about Ankh-Morpork and Klatch going to war over an island that mysteriously appears mid-way between them. Lots of Watch action, but no Dibbler so far :(. Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 19 20:21:16 1997 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:15:05 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971119151504_1704799131@mrin79> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 425 Lines: 20 In a message dated 12/11/97 20:27:48, you write: >On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Ian Collier wrote: > >> On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:21:06 +0000, Andrew Collier said: >> > Why did this message arrive tomorrow morning? >> >> Because Mark is just one of the many people who have their timezone set >> wrong... >> >> imc >> >Give a shit. > > Well it may not be your fault. It could be your ISP that is wrong, its happened before. Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 19 23:32:47 1997 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:21:04 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <971119151504_1704799131@mrin79> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 767 Lines: 26 On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 BrenchleyR@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/11/97 20:27:48, you write: > > >On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Ian Collier wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 11 Nov 1997 00:21:06 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > >> > Why did this message arrive tomorrow morning? > >> > >> Because Mark is just one of the many people who have their timezone set > >> wrong... > >> > >> imc > >> > >Give a shit. > > > Well it may not be your fault. It could be your ISP that is wrong, its > happened before. > > Bob. > Ying tong ying tong ying tong ying tong ying tong yiddle-i-po. Ying tong ying tong ying tong ying tong ying tong yiddle-i-po. Ying tong ying tong ying tong ying tong yiddle-i-po, yiddle-i-po. Ying tong ying tong ying tong ying tong ying tong yiddle-i-po. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 08:52:36 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 03:46:03 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Slowly drumming fingers... Message-Id: <19971120084630Z49326-19393+198@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 408 Lines: 20 Date: 1997-11-20 08:46 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:36:36 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >From: Graham Goring >Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... >Btw, what does anyone think of JINGO? Is that as in; Oh cripes, by Jingo. or as in jingoism Nev - prolly missing the point. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 08:52:36 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 03:48:39 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Slowly drumming fingers... Message-Id: <19971120084856Z49264-19393+201@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 534 Lines: 21 Date: 1997-11-20 08:48 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:15:05 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... > >>> Because Mark is just one of the many people who have their timezone set >>> wrong... >Well it may not be your fault. It could be your ISP that is wrong, its >happened before. > >Bob. Do try and keep up at the back that boy ] Nev - who can't think of a witty tagline today From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 11:41:32 1997 From: Paul Walker Message-Id: <199711201125.LAA01463@lupin.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971119131253.007bf810@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> from Simon Cooke at "Nov 19, 97 01:12:53 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:25:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Approved: bill@whitehouse.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 184 Lines: 7 > >Btw, what does anyone think of JINGO? > ARGHHHHH!!! GET ME BACK TO THE UK, SO I CAN READ IT!!!!!! Is this a good point to say it's a good book...? * arafel waits for the screams From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 17:58:10 1997 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Cc: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: <19971117090020Z49647-9217+142@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware From: Uncle Bulgaria Date: 20 Nov 1997 17:10:06 +0000 In-Reply-To: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life"'s message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 271 Lines: 12 "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" writes: > >If you got rid of that from your sig you might be able to get it down to > >the regulation four lines. > > and what regulation is this ? Netiquette, maybe you've heard of it ;) Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 17:58:13 1997 Message-Id: <199711201703.RAA21696@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:02:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-reply-to: References: <3.0.1.32.19971119131253.007bf810@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 253 Lines: 6 > Seriously though, it is good, it's about Ankh-Morpork and Klatch going > to war over an island that mysteriously appears mid-way between them. > Lots of Watch action, but no Dibbler so far :(. oh, grrruuuuuuuuu. not another flippin' discworld book. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 17:58:13 1997 Message-Id: <199711201724.RAA25577@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:24:19 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life"'s message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST" In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 304 Lines: 14 > > >If you got rid of that from your sig you might be able to get it down to > > >the regulation four lines. > > > > and what regulation is this ? > > Netiquette, maybe you've heard of it ;) don't they have something about multiple postings to mailing lists? l) or maybe only i got it twice? dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 20:04:37 1997 From: Matthew Craven Organization: UMIST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:56:32 BST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-reply-to: <199711201724.RAA25577@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-ID: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 133 Lines: 7 don't they have something about multiple postings to mailing lists? l) or maybe only i got it twice? dave I got it twice too! Matt. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 20:42:48 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711201724.RAA25577@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> References: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life"'s message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:18:20 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 144 Lines: 10 >don't they have something about multiple postings to mailing lists? > >l) > >or maybe only i got it twice? >dave I got it twice too! Andrew. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 21:41:43 1997 Message-ID: <347528DF.ED@clara.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:23:28 -0800 From: David Organization: Persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life"'s message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 388 Lines: 17 Andrew Collier wrote: > > >don't they have something about multiple postings to mailing lists? > > > >l) > > > >or maybe only i got it twice? > >dave > > I got it twice too! > Andrew. And me! Errr... (David frantically racks his head to think of something SAM related to actually get this list back on track!) .... So what colour would you have liked to see the SAM instead of white? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 22:00:37 1997 Message-Id: <3474B211.2F383E0A@cableol.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:56:33 +0000 From: SparkY X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life"'s message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST" <347528DF.ED@clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 929 Lines: 17 > Errr... (David frantically racks his head to think of something SAM > related to actually get this list back on track!) .... So what colour > would you have liked to see the SAM instead of white? Thank you Dave! Sam related stuff, yay!!!!! Well, have you seen the new Pocket Gameboys? The Gameboys original casing wasn't that far off SAM's case colour. One of the new Gameboys has a see-through case which I would have loved a SAM to have. I think a few were made weren't they? I know one or two were made with SAM in camouflage colouring which would be cool :) A silver SAM would be nice too (again, like the new Gameboys). Yummy. Gavin (who has recently re-installed Netscape Communicator - *listen to me!* - don't install IE4 - don't do it! Just don't! You will love it for a week and then realise that it crashes every two seconds and its attempt at Java implementation is complete and utter poo. Oops, off topic again) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 22:12:26 1997 Message-Id: <199711202206.XAA04791@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:56:40 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 789 Lines: 32 > Van: David > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... > Datum: Friday, November 21, 1997 7:23 > > Andrew Collier wrote: > > > > >don't they have something about multiple postings to mailing lists? > > > > > >l) > > > > > >or maybe only i got it twice? > > >dave > > > > I got it twice too! > > Andrew. > > And me! > > Errr... (David frantically racks his head to think of something SAM > related to actually get this list back on track!) .... So what colour > would you have liked to see the SAM instead of white? > Errr OCTARINE :) -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] - Whats on the telly then? - - Looks like a penguin to me - Monty Python Who is not going to wait for a Dutch-translation of JINGO :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 22:12:26 1997 Message-ID: <347530F0.2FE5@clara.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:57:52 -0800 From: David Organization: Persona X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) References: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life"'s message of "Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:59:58 EST" <347528DF.ED@clara.net> <3474B211.2F383E0A@cableol.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1459 Lines: 34 SparkY wrote: > > > Errr... (David frantically racks his head to think of something SAM > > related to actually get this list back on track!) .... So what colour > > would you have liked to see the SAM instead of white? > > Thank you Dave! Sam related stuff, yay!!!!! Well, have you seen the new > Pocket Gameboys? The Gameboys original casing wasn't that far off SAM's > case colour. One of the new Gameboys has a see-through case which I > would have loved a SAM to have. I think a few were made weren't they? I > know one or two were made with SAM in camouflage colouring which would > be cool :) A silver SAM would be nice too (again, like the new > Gameboys). Yummy. Oh yes, I remember that one! I think as well as a change in pace it was also a nifty idea to hide the "MGT" on the case! Also to perhaps use discoloured cases. The camoflauge coloured one was quite good. I think there was a pink one as well :) > Gavin (who has recently re-installed Netscape Communicator - *listen to > me!* - don't install IE4 - don't do it! Just don't! You will love it for > a week and then realise that it crashes every two seconds and its > attempt at Java implementation is complete and utter poo. Oops, off > topic again) Hmmm? Have enough probs with IE3... Netscape isn't wonderful, but it works a lot better. Not sure if my lowly PC can manage communicator. Oh BTW congrats on Stratosphere Colin! I've got it on my Christmas shopping list....!! David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 23:21:55 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 22:09:24 GMT Message-ID: <760_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 664 Lines: 26 >Errr... (David frantically racks his head to think of something SAM >related to actually get this list back on track!) .... So what colour >would you have liked to see the SAM instead of white? Black (Although not technically a colour), or Octarine (Oh look, I said Octarine 2nd!). Hehehehehe. Ha ha ha ha! ;) __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "You never know when an old calendar might come in handy. Sure, it's not 1985 right now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?" - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 20 23:50:35 1997 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:46:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <347528DF.ED@clara.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 243 Lines: 7 On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, David wrote: > Errr... (David frantically racks his head to think of something SAM > related to actually get this list back on track!) .... So what colour > would you have liked to see the SAM instead of white? Hessian. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 08:30:39 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 03:18:06 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Slowly drumming fingers... Message-Id: <19971121081826Z49471-25911+679@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 626 Lines: 27 Date: 1997-11-21 08:17 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Dave Hooper" <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 17:24:19 +0000 >Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... > >> > >If you got rid of that from your sig you might be able to get it down to >> > >the regulation four lines. >> > and what regulation is this ? >> Netiquette, maybe you've heard of it ;) > >don't they have something about multiple postings to mailing lists? >or maybe only i got it twice? >dave No I got it twice too No I got it twice two ;) Nev From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 08:30:39 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 03:24:23 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Slowly drumming fingers... Message-Id: <19971121082427Z49471-25911+680@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 667 Lines: 20 Date: 1997-11-21 08:24 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:23:28 -0800 >From: David >Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... > >Errr... (David frantically racks his head to think of something SAM >related to actually get this list back on track]) .... So what colour >would you have liked to see the SAM instead of white? white - where they ever white. nearly white yes but pure clean blinding white - never. I would have liked one covered in that heat sensitive liquid crystal stuff so it could change colour to suit my mood. Nev - foaming at the mouth as usual From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 17:11:34 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971120181505.007c1100@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:15:05 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) In-Reply-To: <3474B211.2F383E0A@cableol.co.uk> References: <347528DF.ED@clara.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 517 Lines: 17 At 09:56 PM 11/20/97 +0000, you wrote: >Gavin (who has recently re-installed Netscape Communicator - *listen to >me!* - don't install IE4 - don't do it! Just don't! You will love it for >a week and then realise that it crashes every two seconds and its >attempt at Java implementation is complete and utter poo. Oops, off >topic again) *ahem* As a professional java programmer, have-at you, knave. In my experience, Netscape has worse Java support than IE, in any form or flavour. Defend thine remarks. Simon ;) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 17:11:34 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971120181627.007c0c60@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:16:27 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... In-Reply-To: <760_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 602 Lines: 18 At 10:09 PM 11/20/97 GMT, you wrote: >Status: > > >>Errr... (David frantically racks his head to think of something SAM >>related to actually get this list back on track!) .... So what colour >>would you have liked to see the SAM instead of white? > >Black (Although not technically a colour), or Octarine (Oh look, I >said Octarine 2nd!). Actually, if you cut your ASIC open, it already is Octarine inside. Of course, being magical, if you cut it open, the magic disperses, and you won't get to see it (even if you could). So.. give it a go, but if you're disappointed, don't blame me ;) Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 17:11:34 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:40:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Diggory Gray X-Sender: graydj@ugs2 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: SAM Colours In-Reply-To: <19971121082427Z49471-25911+680@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 701 Lines: 24 > > >Errr... (David frantically racks his head to think of something SAM > >related to actually get this list back on track]) .... So what colour > >would you have liked to see the SAM instead of white? > > white - where they ever white. > nearly white yes but pure clean blinding white - never. Pretty close when they where new though. > > I would have liked one covered in that heat sensitive liquid crystal stuff > so it could change colour to suit my mood. That would be cool. Then you could see what keys you used most after typing some code, etc ( Or maybe its z x and space ) Some day my SAM will come out of hibernation and then I'll clean it up to its almost white colour. Diggory From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 17:13:39 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971121101603.007c1dc0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:16:03 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: SAM Colours In-Reply-To: References: <19971121082427Z49471-25911+680@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 220 Lines: 9 At 01:40 PM 11/21/97 +0000, you wrote: >Then you could see what keys you used most after typing some code, etc >( Or maybe its z x and space ) *laughs* knowing my typing (fast but inaccurate), it'd be DELETE ;) Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 17:13:40 1997 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:34:53 GMT+0 Subject: Statosphere X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <7E8424967@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 353 Lines: 11 Please tell me more about Stratosphere...might just do a bnit of SAM shopping if it sounds good... Oh, and when is Queen: The Eye coming out on SAM then? Complete with soundtrack done in ETracker and graphics on FLASH! (Bad pun, very sorry) Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare (JohnnaPig@deathsdoor.com) "One by one...only the good die young." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 17:54:14 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971120181505.007c1100@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> References: <3474B211.2F383E0A@cableol.co.uk> <347528DF.ED@clara.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:49:00 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id RAA08452 Status: RO Content-Length: 1947 Lines: 45 >As a professional java programmer, have-at you, knave. > >In my experience, Netscape has worse Java support than IE, in any form or >flavour. At least in IE you can switch to another virtual machine instead, like MRJ (MacOS runtime for Java) which seems better than either of the browsers'. But IE4 is only in beta for the Mac, and until they make a proper release I can keep my hard disk *entirely* free from Microsoft programs, ha ha ha . >Defend thine remarks. > >Simon ;) But isn't Microsoft being sued by Sun, for writing a Java compiler that doesn't compile real Java? Microsoft's web page says the java engine in IE4 is "more compatible" than any other, including Sun's. But compatible with what? Surely when Sun defines the language, they define what's compatible so Bill Gates's odd propoganda seems a bit misplaced. From what I've read about it, Sun deserve to win the case - whether they actually will is another question though... Desperately trying to get this back on topic.... :) I don't know much bout Java itself, but how feasible might it be to write a java interpreter/compiler for the Sam? How big do the programs tend to be, and do they require better graphics than we have available? Could speed even approach an acceptable standard? Seems a bit more likely than a Sam port of UNIX anyway; do I remember some discussions on Sam Linux in the dim and distant past, or is my imagination running overtime again? Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 20:52:44 1997 Message-ID: <3475F33F.C6C@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:46:55 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: <19971117090020Z49647-9217+142@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 817 Lines: 25 Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > > "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" writes: > > > >If you got rid of that from your sig you might be able to get it down to > > >the regulation four lines. > > > > and what regulation is this ? > > Netiquette, maybe you've heard of it ;) > Only in the context of usenet. which email isn't. -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 20:52:44 1997 Message-ID: <3475F389.F4D@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:48:09 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... References: <19971117090020Z49647-9217+142@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 624 Lines: 19 Uncle Bulgaria wrote: > > "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" writes: > > Netiquette, maybe you've heard of it ;) > Deja vu -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 21:04:07 1997 Message-ID: <19971121205930.19050.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.118.73] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Stratosphere Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:59:30 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1040 Lines: 26 Johnna asked: >Please tell me more about Stratosphere...might just do a bit of SAM >shopping if it sounds good... E-mail me your postal address and you'll get all the info... (My new web pages with all the info etc... will be up and running next weekend....) Colin Piggot. +--------------------------------------------------------+ | QUAZAR SURROUND soundcard... 16 bit sound on Sam! | | *NEW* - STRATOSPHERE - Fast Mode 4 3d Vector Action! | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Colin Piggot | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | Email your postal | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | address for 14+ page | | | booklet about products | HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR SAM | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 21:16:11 1997 Message-ID: <3475F629.85D7ED72@clubi.ie> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:59:23 +0000 From: Paul Nolan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Sam Coupe Spares References: <19971117090020Z49647-9217+142@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> <3475F389.F4D@ndirect.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 600 Lines: 13 Hi, I just found this user group, glad to see the Coupe is still supported. I need a new or replacement Video circuitry / TV tuner, the power pack is okay but there is a burnt patch where the TV circuit is, comes from leaving it plugged in for two or three years. It is okay to run using using the Scart socket but I want to use it using a non-Scart TV. Can anyone help. Paul Nolan Co. Dublin Ireland From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 21 22:31:43 1997 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971121171833.007c3e70@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:18:33 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19971120181505.007c1100@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> <3474B211.2F383E0A@cableol.co.uk> <347528DF.ED@clara.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2753 Lines: 55 At 05:49 PM 11/21/97 +0000, you wrote: >But isn't Microsoft being sued by Sun, for writing a Java compiler that >doesn't compile real Java? Microsoft's web page says the java engine in IE4 >is "more compatible" than any other, including Sun's. But compatible with >what? Surely when Sun defines the language, they define what's compatible >so Bill Gates's odd propoganda seems a bit misplaced. From what I've read >about it, Sun deserve to win the case - whether they actually will is >another question though... Yes, they are -- though it mainly seems to be a publicity move on the part of Sun rather than anything else. Check out http://www.sun.com and http://www.microsoft.com/java for more in-depth info. Microsoft's java compiler does indeed compile *real java*. Otherwise, the stuff I wrote wouldn't work on HotJava[1]. It follows Sun's spec (for Java 1.02, and is reaching it for Java 1.2) to the letter, and goes beyond even Sun's own appletviewer and HotJava browsers in that it does it *RIGHT*. I.e. in the way that is documented, rather than being buggy. [1] Which it doesn't, but that's because Sun's graphics support for the win32 platform is ,shall we say, a little shite :) >Desperately trying to get this back on topic.... :) > >I don't know much bout Java itself, but how feasible might it be to write a >java interpreter/compiler for the Sam? How big do the programs tend to be, >and do they require better graphics than we have available? Could speed >even approach an acceptable standard? Baseline graphics requirement is 256 colours -- but there's nothing to stop us relaxing that. It needs to interface with a GUI, so we'd need one of them. And a realistic file system. And 256 character filenames. The main problems would be speed. I.e. forget it. It'd be somewhat cumbersome and slooooooooowwwwwwwww. Programs can be quite small; my Talker program (which has a built in custom terminal emulator screen, hardcoded room descriptions for speed, etc etc) has a 96k client, and a 32k server (omitting the hardcoded string literals would make that a lot smaller). Part of the size issues are due to the fact that Java uses late-binding for its linking; ie. call addresses et al are worked out after it's all loaded up. Which requires alphanumerical strings to be included in the object code (also, this allows you to re-use the objects anywhere, but them's the brakes). >Seems a bit more likely than a Sam port of UNIX anyway; do I remember some >discussions on Sam Linux in the dim and distant past, or is my imagination >running overtime again? Nope, I remember it too. It would require a C compiler... I'm not quite sure exactly how to write one of those with the spare time I have available at the moment though. Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 22 00:20:08 1997 From: Paul Walker Message-Id: <199711220009.AAA03858@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971120181505.007c1100@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> from Simon Cooke at "Nov 20, 97 06:15:05 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:09:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Approved: bill@whitehouse.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 211 Lines: 8 > In my experience, Netscape has worse Java support than IE, in any form or > flavour. You mean apart from the fact that it's extremely slow at Java, and crashes with extreme regularity (and frequency)? Paul From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 22 01:18:23 1997 Message-Id: <3476319F.C20348FA@cableol.co.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:13:03 +0000 From: SparkY X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Statosphere X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <7E8424967@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 661 Lines: 15 The Mad Goose wrote: > > Please tell me more about Stratosphere...might just do a bnit of SAM > shopping if it sounds good... Johnna, I won't bother giving you the plot of the game etc, as Colin is sending out his leaflets about it, but when you see them, do remember that the screenshots do not show the graphics in all their glory. They truly are yummy. The game itself is fast moving and fun and the presentation is maybe the best I have seen on any SAM game. Plus you get a groovy manual. It's well worth the dosh! Go on, make your SAM feel loved! (And no, Colin didn't pay me to say all that, I've owned the game since it came out, and I love it) Gavin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 22 03:44:45 1997 Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 03:36:59 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <199711220009.AAA03858@holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk> from "Paul Walker" at Nov 22, 97 00:09:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Simon Cooke Message-Id: <19971122033749Z49155-25911+1411@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2398 Lines: 55 > > > > In my experience, Netscape has worse Java support than IE, in any form or > > flavour. > > You mean apart from the fact that it's extremely slow at Java, and crashes > with extreme regularity (and frequency)? which one? IE or Netscape? Netscape is slower than IE... and it crashes loads. Mind you, I've stuck with IE 3.02 for now, until IE4 stabilizes. Apart from that, there are four or 5 major bugs in Netscape's jaa implementation, which, AFAIK, are still in the current version. The main ones that pissed me off (because I've been emailing Netscape once a month for a year or so about them) are: 1. Modal dialog boxes aren't modal. 2. In the browser, you can't get a reference to the screen position of the applet. Same with frames, IIRC. Makes pop up menus and tooltip implementation... hazardous at best. 3. Netscape's component Z-order is the reverse of Sun's and Microsoft's... makes writing complex applications a little difficult (along with the dialog box problem, it makes it nigh on impossible). 4. It's a lot slower. 5. Symantec's VIsual Cafe and Cafe both subscribe to the netscape way of doing things. This includes a different model of component layout validation to the standard one. Solution? Well, heck, we'll try the first one that works, and fire off some random events to keep Netscape's model happy. Writing it correctly (ie. putting component reshapes when using a null layout manager into the AddNotify method, rather than haphazardly generating spurious calls to Validate and AddNotify that break even the APPLETVIEWER but not Netscape). 6. I know 5 isn't all together Netscape's fault, but Symantec have been involved with writing their JVM. 7. Netscape's implementation of the CopyRect method, and also its graphics display in general means that on occasion you get a blank screen where your applet should be. ARGHHH!!!!!! where was I? Si ObSam: THe moment I get a machine at home, I can seriously start working on things again. Such as BOAI, and the Technical Manual, possibly ;) BTW: IF anyone wants to contribute sections to the Technical Manual, I'm quite happy to edit it. The idea is that the final form will be in Word and HTML format, and available on the Web. Copyleft will apply. (Which means no printing it out and selling it for 15 quid or anything like that... but the cost of the printing would be ok) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 22 14:38:11 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3475F629.85D7ED72@clubi.ie> References: <19971117090020Z49647-9217+142@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> <3475F389.F4D@ndirect.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:33:04 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Sam Coupe Spares X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id OAA00644 Status: RO Content-Length: 1625 Lines: 35 > I need a new or replacement Video circuitry / TV tuner, the power >pack is okay but there is a burnt patch where the TV circuit is, comes >from leaving it plugged in for two or three years. It is okay to run >using using the Scart socket but I want to use it using a non-Scart TV. >Can anyone help. You'll be glad to know that Format is still out there, in fact Bob Brenchley himself subscribes to the list but doesn't seem to log on very often. He'll be able to sell you a new power supply, or possibly just the TV modulator circuit. Alternatively, try asking at Greenweld, 01703 236307. They bought up some of MGT's (or was it SamCo's?) old stock of power supplies, and are still selling them quite cheaply. Allegedly, some of the power lines come out at the wrong voltage - but I've not had any trouble with mine. In any case that won't affect the TV modulator if you just plan to swap circuit boards, though it's worth noting that I had to fiddle with the tuning a bit before I got a good picture. Some people have found that putting the TV modulator in its own box helps reduce electrical noise in the signal. Hope that helps, Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 22 15:02:02 1997 From: Paul Walker Message-Id: <199711221456.OAA12554@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) In-Reply-To: <19971122033749Z49155-25911+1411@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from Simon Cooke at "Nov 22, 97 03:36:59 am" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:56:09 +0000 (GMT) X-Approved: bill@whitehouse.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1191 Lines: 39 > > You mean apart from the fact that it's extremely slow at Java, and crashes > > with extreme regularity (and frequency)? > which one? IE or Netscape? Netscrape. > Netscape is slower than IE... and it crashes loads. Mind you, I've stuck > with IE 3.02 for now, until IE4 stabilizes. Yep, same here - except I probably won't actually bother with IE4. > 1. Modal dialog boxes aren't modal. ! > 2. In the browser, you can't get a reference to the screen position of > the applet. Same with frames, IIRC. Makes pop up menus and tooltip > implementation... hazardous at best. Not too useful, no. > 4. It's a lot slower. "Starting Java...", and then about 30 seconds later you get the small applet. DOn't know about the implementation, since I haven't done much with Netscrape. > 7. Netscape's implementation of the CopyRect method, and also its > graphics display in general means that on occasion you get a blank screen > where your applet should be. ARGHHH!!!!!! That's bad. > ObSam: THe moment I get a machine at home, I can seriously start working > on things again. Such as BOAI, and the Technical Manual, possibly ;) Did the other issue of BOAI ever come out..? Paul From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 22 16:34:43 1997 Message-ID: <347706B6.C65A5E6D@clubi.ie> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:22:15 +0000 From: Paul Nolan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam Coupe Spares References: <19971117090020Z49647-9217+142@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> <3475F389.F4D@ndirect.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------ABAD2411E611A5DBC50C0FB0" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2715 Lines: 80 --------------ABAD2411E611A5DBC50C0FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andrew Collier wrote: > > I need a new or replacement Video circuitry / TV tuner, > >Can anyone help. > > You'll be glad to know that Format is still out there, in fact Bob > Brenchley > Hope that helps, > > Andrew > > --- > > +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ > | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | > | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | > | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | > | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | > +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ Many thanks Andrew, I'll follow your advice and give him a ring. Dave Fulton wrote to me with the same advice, near enough. Once again My Thanks Paul --------------ABAD2411E611A5DBC50C0FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  

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You'll be glad to know that Format is still out there, in fact Bob
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Hope that helps,

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Many thanks Andrew, I'll follow your advice and give him a ring.

Dave Fulton wrote to me with the same advice, near enough.

Once again My Thanks
Paul
  --------------ABAD2411E611A5DBC50C0FB0-- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 25 20:38:07 1997 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:30:20 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971125153019_1905351429@mrin46.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 435 Lines: 16 In a message dated 08/11/97 21:46:09, you write: >It is good to come back after two weeks in Italy (wet weeks; but it was work >so I cant go on too much) to find that the list has picked up again. Everyone >back on line after the summer hols? Are we missing anyone? > >Bill. > >PS. Gloucester show wonderful. Picked up so very good secondhand stuff. When >is the next one???? You should have come over and said hello Bill. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Nov 25 22:52:11 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <971125153019_1905351429@mrin46.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:36:21 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id WAA13336 Status: RO Content-Length: 725 Lines: 21 >>Bill. >>PS. Gloucester show wonderful. Picked up so very good secondhand stuff. When >>is the next one???? > >You should have come over and said hello Bill. >Bob. No, Bill would have said "Hello Bob". Not "Hello Bill". :) Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Nov 26 15:47:15 1997 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:18:58 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971126101857_-555096433@mrin40.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 258 Lines: 15 In a message dated 20/11/97 09:20:55, you write: > > >Do try and keep up at the back that boy ] > >Nev - who can't think of a witty tagline today > > Look, if you were as over worked and under-paid as I am then you to would be behind (2746 now). -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Nov 27 12:03:04 1997 Message-ID: <9EACD93001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:59:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: Slowly drumming fingers... Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 211 Lines: 10 > >PS. Gloucester show wonderful. Picked up so very good secondhand stuff. When > >is the next one???? > > You should have come over and said hello Bill. Should have come to the pub at lunchtime :) Dan. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 28 20:13:58 1997 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:05:58 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971128150558_1206021641@mrin42.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam Coupe Spares X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 757 Lines: 22 In a message dated 22/11/97 01:32:02, you write: >Hi, > I just found this user group, glad to see the Coupe is still >supported. > > I need a new or replacement Video circuitry / TV tuner, the power >pack is okay but there is a burnt patch where the TV circuit is, comes >from leaving it plugged in for two or three years. It is okay to run >using using the Scart socket but I want to use it using a non-Scart TV. >Can anyone help. > > Paul Nolan Never heard of any modulator board going like that Paul. As far as I can see there is no way the modulator board could be damaged unless the whole PSU caught fire. Still, new PSUs available for #24.95 incl UK p&p (overseas +10%). -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 28 20:13:59 1997 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:06:02 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971128150600_-355329015@mrin46.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 403 Lines: 22 In a message dated 26/11/97 01:36:13, you write: >o > >>>Bill. >>>PS. Gloucester show wonderful. Picked up so very good secondhand stuff. >When >>>is the next one???? >> >>You should have come over and said hello Bill. >>Bob. > >No, Bill would have said "Hello Bob". >Not "Hello Bill". :) Very funny, ROTFL :) Stored for long term keeping (I need a good laugh sometimes). -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 28 20:14:00 1997 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:06:00 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971128150600_-1708202743@mrin44.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Stratosphere X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 426 Lines: 17 In a message dated 22/11/97 01:32:04, you write: >>Please tell me more about Stratosphere...might just do a bit of SAM >>shopping if it sounds good... > >E-mail me your postal address and you'll get all the info... > >(My new web pages with all the info etc... will be up and running >next weekend....) > >Colin Piggot Having spent parts of the Gloucester show watching the game it is a must have in my opinion. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Nov 28 20:14:01 1997 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:05:58 -0500 (EST) From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <971128150557_1905740297@mrin41.mail.aol.com> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Slowly drumming fingers... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 382 Lines: 17 In a message dated 21/11/97 22:28:02, you write: >Actually, if you cut your ASIC open, it already is Octarine inside. Of >course, being magical, if you cut it open, the magic disperses, and you >won't get to see it (even if you could). > >So.. give it a go, but if you're disappointed, don't blame me ;) > >Simon > > So that is how you destroyed your ASIC last year :) -- Bob. From imc Sat Nov 29 00:19:57 1997 Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 00:19:57 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <19971122033749Z49155-25911+1411@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from "Simon Cooke" at Nov 22, 97 03:36:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 669 Lines: 17 On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 03:36:59 +0000 (GMT), Simon Cooke said: > The idea is that the final form will be in Word > and HTML format, and available on the Web. Copyleft will apply. Word and HTML? Sounds like an odd combination. > (Which means no printing it out and selling it for 15 quid or anything > like that... but the cost of the printing would be ok) As far as I know, Copyleft doesn't stop people charging you for it. As long as they don't stop you from making copies of it. I've never heard of it applying to books - only programs. And if it had 200 pages then 15 quid might be a reasonable price for the cost of printing. :-) imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 29 00:44:14 1997 Message-Id: <347F6468.7A720E09@cableol.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 00:40:08 +0000 From: SparkY X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Stratosphere X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <971128150600_-1708202743@mrin44.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 233 Lines: 10 > Having spent parts of the Gloucester show watching the game it is a must have > in my opinion. > > -- > Bob. Erm, do you have it? Come to think of it, do you actually buy any SAM software that you don't produce yourself?? Gavin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 29 00:52:04 1997 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711290019.AAA20256@p1.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <19971122033749Z49155-25911+1411@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> from "Simon Cooke" at Nov 22, 97 03:36:59 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 00:48:17 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id AAA26491 Status: RO Content-Length: 809 Lines: 19 >And if it had 200 pages then 15 quid might be a reasonable price >for the cost of printing. :-) Oh really? I thought laser-printers generally worked out less than about 4p per sheet = less than 8 pounds for 200 pages. And if you want many (>50) copies, there are still places which will do A4 photocopying at 2p +VAT... Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+dre From imc Sat Nov 29 01:11:06 1997 Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 01:11:06 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Nov 29, 97 00:48:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 760 Lines: 18 On Sat, 29 Nov 1997 00:48:17 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > >And if it had 200 pages then 15 quid might be a reasonable price > >for the cost of printing. :-) > Oh really? I thought laser-printers generally worked out less than about 4p > per sheet = less than 8 pounds for 200 pages. I wouldn't know as I've never had to run one. > And if you want many (>50) > copies, there are still places which will do A4 photocopying at 2p +VAT... Such a place certainly existed about 18 months ago and perhaps still does. However, around here they want 4-5p *if* you do at least 400 double-sided sheets. And I only said "might be reasonable". I'm sure you can find a copying shop which would charge 8p per page. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 29 15:52:24 1997 Message-ID: <34803979.1A1C@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:49:13 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) References: <199711290019.AAA20256@p1.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 807 Lines: 21 Ian Collier wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 03:36:59 +0000 (GMT), Simon Cooke said: > > The idea is that the final form will be in Word > > and HTML format, and available on the Web. Copyleft will apply. > > Word and HTML? Sounds like an odd combination. > Well word 7 will edit html files. -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Nov 29 20:45:54 1997 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 20:36:32 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: New email address for Crashed In-Reply-To: <971128150558_1206021641@mrin42.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 308 Lines: 16 Just so you know, the new Crashed email address is as follows: crashed@argonet.co.uk Or if you prefer, you can email me (pyumi@csv.warwick.ac.uk) or Stewart (sskardon@argonet.co.uk) personally. Issue 20 of Crashed is pretty much ready, and will finally appear before the end of this week. Love, Mark From imc Sat Nov 29 23:55:48 1997 Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:55:48 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <34803979.1A1C@ndirect.co.uk> from "Nev Young" at Nov 29, 97 03:49:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 150 Lines: 6 On Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:49:13 +0000, Nev Young said: > Well word 7 will edit html files. And put unprintable mutated quotation marks in them... imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Nov 30 01:15:53 1997 Message-ID: <3480B763.7E17@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 00:46:27 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Colour of SAM (was Re: Slowly drumming fingers...) References: <199711292355.XAA21405@p1.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 697 Lines: 19 Ian Collier wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:49:13 +0000, Nev Young said: > > Well word 7 will edit html files. > > And put unprintable mutated quotation marks in them... I never said it would do it well ! -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ----------------------------------------------------