From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 1 16:30:15 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:03:34 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Anyone want it? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 761 Lines: 21 I have been using the holiday period (Jenny gets far to much time off you know) to sort out a few bits and try and tidy up the office. One thing I found under the bench is a mono monitor for an Amstrad 1640 PC. Before I offer it elsewhere I just thought I would give SAM mailing list readers the chance to say yes if they want it. Its free (I would just hate to see it go to waste) to anyone who can collect from Gloucester in the next few weeks. It was last used about two years ago and should, as far as I know, work AOK. The base unit was damaged when we moved it back from south wales (it was used for blowing eproms for several years). I will see if I can find the motherboard (the case was dumped) if anyone wants that as well. Let me know. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 1 16:30:24 1998 From: Dean Liversidge Organization: The Factory To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:58:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? In-reply-to: Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2103 Lines: 44 > > I've had a PC for two years but I've never even managed to get > simple Basic proglets to work. Ok, if you have the money you can get > to program in something decent - but with SAM that comes free. BASIC on the PC usually comes free and is quite comprehensive if people can be bothered to learn it properly. It even takes you into the realms of C programming with a lot of its feature. The problems with programming on the PC is that most people can't be bothered, or the program has already been done before. The PC is more complex to program, but once you learn the new rules it's not a jungle. The difference with trying to make the new SAM a viable project is that when the Speccy was in it's youth ( as well as I ) there were job prospects for people as programmers on the Spectrum, with the SAM it's only really a play thing as to program in the 'real-world' requires use of languages such as C/C++ and Visual Basic, since most companies use these to develop applications for themselves. So, there is very little chance of getting any real success from the SAM since few people are able to spend time developing hardware or software, unfortunatly work/reality wins again. I for years have had plans for building/writing severals things for the SAM, including IDE interfaces, (which would allow Hard Drives, CDROM, and 120MB floppy), SIMM memory adapters, DOS, etc. If fact the original reason for buying a PC was to allow me to develop hardware for the SAM, as the only descent electronics-CAD software was available on PC, but time is never on my side and projects never get realised. Since I work for a firm that sell PC's and components, that is where i need to be aiming my skils, and nowadays most companies use PC's so most people need the ability to use PC's, that is the way that life is at the moment and unfortunatly we all have to live in the real world the earn a living. I doubt if i will ever get the time to do all things that i wanted to do on the SAM, but the projects are always on hold, if ever the time becomes available. -- Dean Liversidge From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 2 01:32:24 1998 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 01:06:36 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Dave Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 659 Lines: 18 >I've had a PC for two years but I've never even managed to get simple Basic >proglets to work. Ok, if you have the money you can get to program in >something decent - but with SAM that comes free. > >Bill. >[God may have made heaven on earth and called it Devon - but did he have to >stick it so far from London (just spent 3 hours on the train getting home)] 1) ???? but qbasic is sooooo user friendly and easy to use 2) lots of pc mags have been literally giving away development environments on the cover disks. borland c++ and delphi to name but two. for that cost of a magazine. and with a bit of a shove they can be made to sorta work too. dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 2 12:39:16 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Fri, 2 Jan 98 11:40:11 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Happy New Year / FRED Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 660 Lines: 25 Hello everyone, Just a quick mail to wish you all a Happy New Year, and let's see if we can make 1998 a good year for SAM. Secondly, having not heard from FRED yet, I was just wondering if anyone else has. I am going to write another letter to Darren soon, and I would like to mention that other people are not particularly happy. Stewart. -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 2 16:27:10 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <10e68425.34acff9d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:54:07 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: A bit quiet is it?..... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 279 Lines: 13 In a message dated 30/12/97 19:37:04, you write: > BrenchleyR@aol.com wrote: > > > Well at least its not windoze 95. > > Strange, I thought you liked win95...? > Me? Never, no way. I like to feel that I have control of a machine - not it having control of me. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 2 16:27:10 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <30d21a4.34acff9e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:54:20 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 862 Lines: 28 In a message dated 30/12/97 23:59:56, you write: > > > like a PC where the inner workings are kept from you behind layers of > > operating systems an application software. You can peek and poke, alter > things > > and experiment, you can have fun with SAM. > > But you can do exactly the same with, say, a PC... > > Paul Not in the same way. You have to load Basic before you can even start to program. Memory layout on the PC is so difficult to handle it makes SAM with expanded RAM look so easy. The PC has its place, don't get me wrong - but so does a machine like SAM. Just imagine a machine that was as friendly as the Spectrum and SAM to program - but with more spped and better graphics. If only 1% of 1% of the people who would look at another machine JUST to spite BG&Co ended up buying it the market would be massive. -- Bob. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 4 19:50:09 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave Whitmore) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: idea Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 19:44:47 GMT Message-ID: <34afe31b.23237559@mail.enterprise.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 554 Lines: 19 I think a 'History of the SAM Coupe' CD ROM might be a good thing for some of us to work on. Using Html, with nice scans, lots of stories and different perspectives. If necessary, it could be part of a broader ZX history thing. We could use the rest of the 639.9mb (sorry, joke) for PD disk images - runable on SIM Coupe, etc. The proceeds could be used to develop a fully working lightpen or something. :) Ouch, sorry.. The idea of the CD ROM is serious. Or should we just let SAM's memory be washed away by the tides of time? Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 4 21:50:16 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <433f258c.34affbc7@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:14:45 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Happy New Year / FRED Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 579 Lines: 27 In a message dated 02/01/98 11:43:49, you write: > > Hello everyone, > > Just a quick mail to wish you all a Happy New Year, and let's see if we can > make 1998 a good year for SAM. happy New Year to you as well :) > > Secondly, having not heard from FRED yet, I was just wondering if anyone > else > has. Got issue 81 just before Christmas but have not had time to more than glance at it yet. > > I am going to write another letter to Darren soon, and I would like to > mention > that other people are not particularly happy. > > Stewart. > HTH. Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 4 21:50:34 1998 From: Martin Rookyard To: SAM Users Mailing List Cc: Simon Lee Cooke Subject: B.O.A.I. - the official explanation Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:34:34 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2262 Lines: 50 As you probably all know by now, we at Based On An Idea... have decided to change from a paper-based publication to one which can now be found on the web. It has come to our attention that various rumours are being circulated - mainly by people who have no connection with (and consequently little inside knowledge of) B.O.A.I. so the editors wish to set the record straight. 1. B.O.A.I. was originally conceived to fill the "non-games" corner of the SAM mag. market. 2. As the editors did not wish to write all articles themselves, various people were approached to contribute. Whilst some *did* fulfill their agreements, we were badly let down by others who (despite many reminders) failed to deliver. 3. In the past 18 months the editors have all taken on extra commitments in addition to their already busy schedules, and are no longer prepared to rush through extra self-written articles as deadlines approach and promised contributions fail to appear. 4. As technology as a whole becomes increasingly geared towards the web, this seems the natural direction in which to head. We would like to refute the allegations that we were forced to close due to production problems. Although we suffered initial delay with Issue 1, we were more than happy to continue with M.C.C. who could not be faulted on either price or quality. However, we *had* already sourced additional printers in Lowton to ensure continuity should circumstances ever dictate the need to change. (All business people will, I am sure, recognise the need to keep substitute suppliers in reserve in case of emergency.) We can also state categorically that there has been no split amongst the editors - as shown by our 2-hour-plus weekly phone chats, almost daily email contact and several rather pleasant alcoholically enhanced Christmas sleepovers, on Simon's all too brief visit home over the festive season. In conclusion, we wish to thank all our subscribers, contributors, advertisers and friends for their generous help, support and encouragement in the past. We hope that all those who are able will join us on the web in the near future. May you all enjoy a peaceful and prosperous 1998. Simon Cooke, Maria & Martin Rookyard Editors of "Based On An Idea..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 5 20:21:00 1998 Message-Id: <199801052015.VAA20785@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Undelivered mail Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:54:45 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 300 Lines: 16 ---------- > Van: Ian Collier > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Undelivered mail > Datum: Sunday, January 04, 1998 10:50 *PLONK* For the time being -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] The borderline Express will terminate at this place :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 5 20:43:23 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:17:50 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 302 Lines: 16 In a message dated 04/01/98 18:52:32, you write: > > > BrenchleyR wrote: > > > > > > > > > . . . Wellllllll . . . > > Flipping heck. He writes the same way as he talks. :) > It is called 'putting emphasis' on something. It is a skill you are taught when you learn to write :) -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 5 21:05:22 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ILGW @ C&L NL @ C&L INT @ C&L INT EXTERNAL@INTERLIANT @ OUTBOUND From: Stefan Drissen To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Message-ID: <86256583.0073663B.00@internet-502.interliant.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 17:32:51 +0100 Subject: Re: Happy New Year / FRED Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2076 Lines: 47 >I tried writing to him a few months ago, complaining that I was yet to >receive Colony, even though it was out and being sold at the show etc. >(and of course Kaboom!). He hasn't replied, so I hope you have better >luck than me. Speaking of Fred, has anyone received Fred 81? I know of >one person who got it a week and a half ago, but mine hasn't arrived >yet...hmm...*puts paranoid hat on*. Oh, and while you're talking to him, >tell him that he has dragged the good name of Fred Publishing through >the mud. > >Gavin Sorry Gavin, I received my copy of FRED 81 a week or two ago. As to dragging the good name of FRED Publishing through the mud - well I suppose there's a lot more mud around since Colin left... Has anyone acutally seen the amazing Colony yet??? I have to admit that the adverts do seem to tantalize (whatever that means) but due to the rather dodgy reputation of Darren Wileman (starting with X-Sights 3 - the totally bog game that was advertised as having Quazar sound, on to Kaboom - which probably isn't 100% Darren's fault, and then the rather late releases of FRED - which is probably Ando's fault ;) ) I haven't ordered yet. Stefan -- **************************************** This document should only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed and is not intended to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of its contents. 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In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 946 Lines: 30 In message , BrenchleyR writes >In a message dated 04/01/98 18:52:32, you write: > >> >> > BrenchleyR wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > . . . Wellllllll . . . >> >> Flipping heck. He writes the same way as he talks. :) >> > >It is called 'putting emphasis' on something. It is a skill you are taught >when you learn to write :) I can't say I remember my english teacher spelling "well" with 8 l's. But, I do exactly the same thing. :) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 6 16:32:47 1998 From: "E.P.R.P. Blink" Organization: Hanzehogeschool Groningen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:08:24 MET Subject: Re: SAM and PC Monitors... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <9A890EA048C@mail1.pl.hanze.nl> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 894 Lines: 28 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 03:38:13 -0800 > From: "David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine!" > Organization: Blitz Diskzine > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Subject: SAM and PC Monitors... > Reply-to: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Quick question for Techy people listening! > > How tricky is it - in theory - to interface the SAM to a VGA monitor? > > David Very tricky, VGA monitors won't work with a SAM. The seperate horizontal and vertical sych pulses are not a problem. But these monitors have a higher line frequency of 31.5 KHz. The SAMs line frequency is 15.625 KHz. A CGA monitor can be used with the SAM when the SAMs sync pulse is split into seperate horizontal and vertical sunc pulses. But it displays 16 Colors only. There are also MCGA (Multi Color) Monitors. I don't know if they will work with SAM. Edwin Blink. From imc Tue Jan 6 17:58:48 1998 Subject: Re: Undelivered mail In-Reply-To: <34A8A092.38F0@clara.net> from David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! at "Dec 29, 97 11:19:46 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:58:48 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 651 Lines: 16 On Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:19:46 -0800, David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! said: > snip, snip!! > Ian! I think your filter is not quite working :) You are quite correct, it wasn't. Arrgh. And right in the middle of my holiday too. The technical explanation, for anyone who has a passing interest, is that the mail server got full so the instruction which says "save list mail" failed and procmail decided to carry on with the script (whereas it would normally exit after saving the mail). You were unlucky because you live in ".net"-land so it decided your mails were spams. Some others merely got bounced back to the sender with a mailer error. imc From imc Tue Jan 6 17:59:49 1998 Subject: Re: Undelivered mail In-Reply-To: <199801052015.VAA20785@mailserv.caiw.nl> from Robert van der Veeke at "Jan 5, 98 08:54:45 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:59:49 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 126 Lines: 6 On Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:54:45 +0100, Robert van der Veeke said: > *PLONK* Too late - it got fixed yesterday afternoon... imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 6 19:39:04 1998 Message-Id: <199801061925.UAA19919@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Undelivered mail Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:24:41 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 627 Lines: 22 > Van: Ian Collier > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Undelivered mail > Datum: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 6:59 > > On Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:54:45 +0100, Robert van der Veeke said: > > *PLONK* > > Too late - it got fixed yesterday afternoon... > > imc Well i am still glad it did not happen last year, I was gone for 3 days and i only found 25 mails in my box, including one lonely email-spammer (aah how cute, somehow they can't find me anymore). BTW: happy new year :) -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] The borderline Express will terminate at this station :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 6 21:58:04 1998 Message-ID: <34B3180D.33D6@persona.clara.net> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 21:52:13 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Quick note about the 4th NSSS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 920 Lines: 33 Just read the following on the Sinclair Newsgroup... Thought I'd post it to everyone here in case you've missed it..... The 4th meeting of the now legendary Northern Sam and Spectrum Show will take place on the 28th of February '98 at the Church rooms in Wetherby. This is instead of the previous venue which was to take place the week before at a different location. Don't worry as the Church rooms are on the next turning left after the Wesleyn chapel where the last NSSS took place. The reason behind the change is that we will now be at a bigger location. 4TH NSSS SHOW FEBRUARY 28TH 1998 THE CHURCH ROOMS, WETHERBY LOCATED ON CHURCH STREET, OFF BANK STREET For more information ring George Boyle on 01937 583827 (after 6PM) Or you can e-mail me at the address below for directions. Toodle-loo, Paul White e-mail paulwhite@thezxfiles.demon.co.uk reposted on SAM-Users Mailing List by David Ledbury... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 7 01:23:45 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 01:17:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Quick note about the 4th NSSS In-Reply-To: <34B3180D.33D6@persona.clara.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1439 Lines: 47 David, Are you doing the ads, as you did for the last one? George said you were, although admittedly that means very little. Anyway, if you are could you get one to me URGENTLY so I can put it in the next issue of Crashed? I really want this show to be a success, and I'd hate to see the publicity side of things go the same way as they did last time (ie total fucking disaster). Mark On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! wrote: > Just read the following on the Sinclair Newsgroup... Thought I'd post it > to everyone here in case you've missed it..... > > > The 4th meeting of the now legendary Northern Sam and Spectrum Show will > take place on the 28th of February '98 at the Church rooms in Wetherby. > This is instead of the previous venue which was to take place the week > before at a different location. Don't worry as the Church rooms are on > the next turning left after the Wesleyn chapel where the last NSSS took > place. The reason behind the change is that we will now be at a bigger > location. > > 4TH NSSS SHOW > > FEBRUARY 28TH 1998 > > THE CHURCH ROOMS, WETHERBY > > LOCATED ON CHURCH STREET, OFF BANK STREET > > > For more information ring George Boyle on 01937 583827 (after 6PM) > Or you can e-mail me at the address below for directions. > > Toodle-loo, > > > Paul White > > e-mail paulwhite@thezxfiles.demon.co.uk > > > reposted on SAM-Users Mailing List by David Ledbury... > From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 7 02:19:27 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:03:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Quick note about the 4th NSSS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 128 Lines: 2 Damn! Sorry about the previous thing I sent, which should have gone to David personally. Sorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorry. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 7 02:42:06 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:36:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: More improfessional rubbish In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 245 Lines: 7 Has anybody got an address for a guy called Gary Meadows? I think he was from Merseyside somewhere, and I owe him a copy of Crashed but I've lost his address. If anyone knows him, could you email me privately with his address? Thanks. Mark From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 7 09:23:19 1998 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 04:06:44 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Quick note about the 4th NSSS Message-Id: <19980107090657Z49185-16125+801@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 748 Lines: 22 Date: 1998-01-07 09:01 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 01:17:19 +0000 (GMT) >From: Mr M A Sturdy >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Subject: Re: Quick note about the 4th NSSS >David, >Are you doing the ads, as you did for the last one? George said you >were, although admittedly that means very little. Anyway, if you are >could you get one to me URGENTLY so I can put it in the next issue of >Crashed? I really want this show to be a success, and I'd hate to see >the publicity side of things go the same way as they did last time (ie >total fucking disaster). It already is as far as I'm concerned is as I'm booked for the 28th. ;-( Nev From imc Wed Jan 7 11:20:01 1998 Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:20:01 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <30d21a4.34acff9e@aol.com> from "BrenchleyR" at Jan 2, 98 09:54:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 403 Lines: 11 On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:54:20 EST, BrenchleyR said: > Just imagine a machine that was as friendly as the Spectrum and SAM to program > - but with more spped and better graphics. OK, I'm imagining... [pause] Hmm, do you know what I saw? It was a PC with a Sam BASIC interpreter. (Not a full Sam emulator, but a window in which you can type a Sam program, save it, and type run just as on a Sam). imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 7 12:24:41 1998 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 07:04:44 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? Message-Id: <19980107120508Z49203-16125+838@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 558 Lines: 24 Date: 1998-01-07 11:49 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ian Collier >Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:20:01 +0000 (GMT) > >This mail item was sent in SMTP/MIME format, and may have >contained encoded binary body parts. Any such body parts >have been extracted and sent to you as individual items. > > ><< Extracted and sent as PART0001 PLAINBIN P5 >> Yep he's back. At least I could read his spam bounces. ;-( Nev - From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 7 23:18:02 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <90739b8a.34b40387@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:36:53 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Happy New Year / FRED Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 582 Lines: 24 In a message dated 05/01/98 21:09:14, you write: [snip] > > Has anyone acutally seen the amazing Colony yet??? No. > I have to admit that > the adverts do seem to tantalize (whatever that means) but due to the > rather dodgy reputation of Darren Wileman (starting with X-Sights 3 - the > totally bog game that was advertised as having Quazar sound, on to Kaboom - > which probably isn't 100% Darren's fault, and then the rather late releases > of FRED - which is probably Ando's fault ;) ) Not from what I have heard. > I haven't ordered yet. > > Stefan -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 7 23:57:37 1998 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:47:41 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Ian Dalziel Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? In-Reply-To: <19980107120508Z49203-16125+838@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 356 Lines: 10 In article <19980107120508Z49203-16125+838@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no>, "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" writes >Any such body parts >>have been extracted and sent to you as individual items. Jeez - talk about an offer you can't refuse? I give in - whatever he's selling, I'll buy it - just don't send me the body parts, OK? -- Ian Dalziel From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 8 02:05:51 1998 Message-ID: <34B4A36C.EBC@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 01:59:09 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Quick note about the 4th NSSS References: <34B3180D.33D6@persona.clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 364 Lines: 12 I've posted up more details about the show on the following web site ... including information on George Boyle (Show Organiser) on how to get to the new venue.... www.persona.clara.net/nsss/index.htm More info, such as places to stay, etc will be added - so keep browsing at the page regularly... Any questions - Phone George on 01937 583827, after 6pm. David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 8 17:09:59 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:04:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Zodiac In-Reply-To: <34B4A36C.EBC@persona.clara.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1162 Lines: 19 I recently rang Michael Stocks to find out what's been happening with Zodiac, seeing as most of us haven't seen a copy since summer 1996. He tells me there *was* another issue out in April '97, and he was at the show in Gloucester with it. He reckons there must have been some sort of problem at the post office, because he sent off issues to everyone who didn't collect them at the Show, but no one has apparently got one. He was hoping to get the next issue out last August. Unfortunately, he says he was let down by the magazine's two principal contributors, which left him in a bit of a fix because he was suddenly without articles. He's been trying to get the issue together since then, but he's also been in the midst of A-levels these past few months, which has limited the time he's had to do things. Anyway, he told me he was going to get the new issue out this month sometime, then see where he stands with his contributors. If it turns out that it's no longer practical to put the magazine out on his own, he's considering a number of options, including a merger with another mag. Just thought you might all want to know what the situation is. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 8 17:40:44 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 8 Jan 98 16:27:09 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Quick note about the 4th NSSS Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 869 Lines: 34 On Thu 8 Jan 98 (01:59:09), david@persona.clara.net wrote: >I've posted up more details about the show on the following web site >... including information on George Boyle (Show Organiser) on how to >get to the new venue.... > >www.persona.clara.net/nsss/index.htm > >More info, such as places to stay, etc will be added - so keep browsing >at the page regularly... > >Any questions - Phone George on 01937 583827, after 6pm. > >David > > Alternatively, you could look at the other NSSS site at http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/NSSS/ Stewart -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 8 18:37:22 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <2f096e15.34b5180e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:16:45 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 581 Lines: 20 In a message dated 07/01/98 11:35:47, you write: > On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:54:20 EST, BrenchleyR said: > > Just imagine a machine that was as friendly as the Spectrum and SAM to > program > > - but with more spped and better graphics. > > OK, I'm imagining... [pause] > > Hmm, do you know what I saw? It was a PC with a Sam BASIC interpreter. > (Not a full Sam emulator, but a window in which you can type a Sam program, > save it, and type run just as on a Sam). > > imc Ok, it would work. Now how could we sell that sub 300ukp with connection to a TV? -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 8 23:04:34 1998 Message-ID: <34B5C104.255D@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 22:17:40 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Quick note about the 4th NSSS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 966 Lines: 32 Stewart Skardon wrote: > > On Thu 8 Jan 98 (01:59:09), david@persona.clara.net wrote: > >I've posted up more details about the show on the following web site > >... including information on George Boyle (Show Organiser) on how to > >get to the new venue.... > > > >www.persona.clara.net/nsss/index.htm > > > >More info, such as places to stay, etc will be added - so keep browsing > >at the page regularly... > > > >Any questions - Phone George on 01937 583827, after 6pm. > > > >David > > > > > > Alternatively, you could look at the other NSSS site at > > http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/NSSS/ > > Stewart You could well do :) But it doesn't have the details of the new venue... Which is *slightly* different from last time. Anyway - take a look at both sites, see you there (I've gotta go as I've loads of Speccy games that the Ed of the ZXFiles wants to buy off me!) at the new venue - which can be found on www.persona.clara.net/nsss/index.htm From imc Fri Jan 9 10:49:01 1998 Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:49:01 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <2f096e15.34b5180e@aol.com> from "BrenchleyR" at Jan 8, 98 01:16:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 362 Lines: 11 On Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:16:45 EST, BrenchleyR said: > Ok, it would work. Now how could we sell that sub 300ukp with connection to a > TV? I didn't say it would be cheap (although if you've already got the PC...). And if you want to connect it to a TV the graphics aren't going to be spectacular. But the point is that PCs don't need to be hard to program. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jan 10 12:37:40 1998 Message-ID: <000001bd1dc2$bc3df580$38e525c1@morrigan.netfusion.co.uk> From: netFUSION USA To: sam-users Subject: Re: Sam2000, anyone? Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:17:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 743 Lines: 20 >There are AFAIK no other chips with the same processor interface and command >set. Therefore none are plug compatible. However if we (someone) are going >to rewrite dos (and probably the rom) then different controllers are no >problem, except that whatever we choose will go out of production the >following day. There is one chip like this; the WD-1772-02-02, also known as the AJAX chip in the Atari ST. It's pin compatible (from the specs I got), and command set compatible... and handles HD drives. The only thing is... it, like the WD-1772-02 has gone the way of the dodo. Back to square one, folks. (Though methinks thinking more in the direction of an internal Zip drive might be more productive... if a little pointless). Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 14 18:24:47 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980114130239.006c5380@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:02:39 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Hello? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 100 Lines: 30 Hi everyone, Is the list still alive? It all of a sudden went... D E A D . . . From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 14 20:26:57 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:44:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@holly To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no cc: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980114130239.006c5380@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 398 Lines: 11 On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Simon Cooke wrote: > Is the list still alive? It all of a sudden went... > > > D E A D . . . Hmm. Maybe that's because there isn't a great deal that can be said about an obscure, 8-year old, thrice-flopped 8bit computer, other than that we were all conned when we bought it, should have hung on to our Speccies for another year or two, then saved up for PCs. Whoops!!! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 14 20:26:57 1998 From: Martin Rookyard To: sam-users Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:11:33 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2000 Lines: 81 > D > > E > > > A > > > > > D > > > . > > > > > . > > > > > > . > Hi sweetie, Thought at first this was some kind of piece for Simon to practice on his keyboard ;) although he's a little more advanced than this because he's doing a couple of tunes with five notes in - C to G - ( I think it's carefully designed so they can concentrate on using their fingers without actually having to move their hands from one place to another). There was a survey in the paper today by Touchline Insurance. They've analysed 90,000 claims over the past five years and reckon that Capricorns are the safest drivers, followed by Leo and Aquarius. Apparently Aquarius is "the sign of genius and gentility, reflected in an exemplary record." Yes, thanks, I'll go along with that. Leos are reputedly "security conscious and safe. You love people and drive responsibly" Then again, Capricorns are supposedly the safest sign on the road, and as the Express so gleefully point out, the most noteworthy "Capricorn driver" is Michael Schumaker. Hmmmm Anyway, although it's a complete load of those things you play snooker with, I still thought it might make you smile a little. I think I'll be taking a week off school after the Whit holidays (the week of Chiccy's birthday) because there's an OFSTED assessment that week. Safer by far to keep well out of it I think... Liam and John have both spent more time standing out in the corridor today than they have in the classroom. Liam's decided that he wants to do a play for assembly, and insisted on wandering round half the morning trying to organise the cast despite being told over and over again he had to do it on his own time. Then this afternoon we made out a list of class rules. When he stuck his hand up and offered "obey the teacher" it was all I could do to keep a straight face. Definitely a case of "do as I say, not as I do"! Mail you again soon. Love & kisses, Maria, Martin & Simon. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 14 23:27:42 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:23:08 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd2143$5f7b8d60$3214a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 267 Lines: 12 >Hi sweetie, Hi honey! ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 14 23:27:43 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:24:30 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd2143$9064ea20$3214a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 919 Lines: 25 >On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Simon Cooke wrote: > >> Is the list still alive? It all of a sudden went... >> >> >> D E A D . . . > >Hmm. Maybe that's because there isn't a great deal that can be said about >an obscure, 8-year old, thrice-flopped 8bit computer, other than that we >were all conned when we bought it, should have hung on to our Speccies >for another year or two, then saved up for PCs. Whoops!!! Oooh controversial, controversial. Erm, why bother being on this list then? Some people actually like the computer (like me) and would enjoy using it even if no-one else in the world had one :P (Although I have to admit, that my love for the Speccy is growing again :) ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 09:29:48 1998 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:27:53 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <01bd2143$9064ea20$3214a8c2@sparky> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1253 Lines: 31 In message <01bd2143$9064ea20$3214a8c2@sparky>, SparkY writes >>On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Simon Cooke wrote: >> >>> Is the list still alive? It all of a sudden went... >>> >>> >>> D E A D . . . >> >>Hmm. Maybe that's because there isn't a great deal that can be said about >>an obscure, 8-year old, thrice-flopped 8bit computer, other than that we >>were all conned when we bought it, should have hung on to our Speccies >>for another year or two, then saved up for PCs. Whoops!!! > >Oooh controversial, controversial. Erm, why bother being on this list then? >Some people actually like the computer (like me) and would enjoy using it >even if no-one else in the world had one :P (Although I have to admit, that >my love for the Speccy is growing again :) Are you CSS then? Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 10:15:43 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:10:20 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd219d$c9288560$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1081 Lines: 31 From: Graham Goring >>>Hmm. Maybe that's because there isn't a great deal that can be said about >>>an obscure, 8-year old, thrice-flopped 8bit computer, other than that we >>>were all conned when we bought it, should have hung on to our Speccies >>>for another year or two, then saved up for PCs. Whoops!!! >> >>Oooh controversial, controversial. Erm, why bother being on this list then? >>Some people actually like the computer (like me) and would enjoy using it >>even if no-one else in the world had one :P (Although I have to admit, that >>my love for the Speccy is growing again :) > >Are you CSS then? > >Graham Erm, am I CSS? What do you mean? I subscribe to CSS if that's what you mean. Rarely have time to post to it though. (I see you have no problem finding time to post on it though ;) ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 11:31:56 1998 Message-Id: <199801151110.LAA09427@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:10:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Hello? References: <3.0.1.32.19980114130239.006c5380@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 693 Lines: 20 > Hmm. Maybe that's because there isn't a great deal that can be said about > an obscure, 8-year old, thrice-flopped 8bit computer, other than that we > were all conned when we bought it, should have hung on to our Speccies > for another year or two, then saved up for PCs. Whoops!!! This is what i bought for my sam: 1) klax 2) sam supplement (issues 1-15) 3) hexagonia 4) a couple of demo cds erm, i think that's about it. the rest (sam (256k, cassette) + comms + disk drive) was sortof a gift. still feel kinda guilty that i don't use my sam. but then, i've just bought a big expensive pc. and i'm still not sure that the cost has been justified. (1700 quid? for that? etc) dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 14:19:03 1998 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:48:51 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <01bd219d$c9288560$LocalHost@SPARKY> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1461 Lines: 37 In message <01bd219d$c9288560$LocalHost@SPARKY>, SparkY writes >From: Graham Goring > >>>>Hmm. Maybe that's because there isn't a great deal that can be said >about >>>>an obscure, 8-year old, thrice-flopped 8bit computer, other than that we >>>>were all conned when we bought it, should have hung on to our Speccies >>>>for another year or two, then saved up for PCs. Whoops!!! >>> >>>Oooh controversial, controversial. Erm, why bother being on this list >then? >>>Some people actually like the computer (like me) and would enjoy using it >>>even if no-one else in the world had one :P (Although I have to admit, >that >>>my love for the Speccy is growing again :) >> >>Are you CSS then? >> >>Graham > >Erm, am I CSS? What do you mean? I subscribe to CSS if that's what you mean. >Rarely have time to post to it though. (I see you have no problem finding >time to post on it though ;) Oh yeah, heh. English isn't my first language. BASIC is. Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 21:21:41 1998 Message-ID: <34BEEBF0.F14@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:11:13 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Something SAM Related.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 264 Lines: 7 Which is a change :) Is anyone actually going to use the IRC channel #sam-users on Dalnet or are the odd couple of people interested in this going to stick to Gavin's channel #thelocal on undernet. We can't all access two different servers at once you know...! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 21:21:41 1998 Message-ID: <34BEEC96.7FB9@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:13:58 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: BOAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 183 Lines: 4 I thought BOAI was supposed to making some sort of apperance via Cookies web site??? But all I can see is the plug for issue one. Is there another address, or is it just not up yet? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 21:21:41 1998 Message-ID: <34BEECE7.5E4B@persona.clara.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:15:19 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Fred Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 192 Lines: 7 How much is a sub to Fred these days? I may well think of a sub to Format one of these days... as the last time I actually read it was then I wrote for it! That's quite some time ago! David From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 21:26:04 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:21:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <01bd2143$9064ea20$3214a8c2@sparky> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 301 Lines: 7 On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, SparkY wrote: > Oooh controversial, controversial. Erm, why bother being on this list then? Shit, hadn't thought of that. Er, because I can't be arsed/can't afford buying a decent computer that can do decent w/p and run quality games and get on mailing lists like this. Ah. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 21:46:39 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:35:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <199801151110.LAA09427@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 384 Lines: 14 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Dave Hooper wrote: > This is what i bought for my sam: > > 1) klax > 2) sam supplement (issues 1-15) > 3) hexagonia > 4) a couple of demo cds > > erm, i think that's about it. the rest (sam (256k, cassette) + comms > + disk drive) was sortof a gift. still feel kinda guilty that i don't > use my sam. Why? Maybe it's just because your SAM's NOT VERY GOOD. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 21:46:39 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:39:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting In-Reply-To: <34BEEC96.7FB9@persona.clara.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 527 Lines: 12 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! wrote: > I thought BOAI was supposed to making some sort of apperance via Cookies > web site??? But all I can see is the plug for issue one. > > Is there another address, or is it just not up yet? > Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 22:52:15 1998 From: Martin Rookyard To: SAM Users Mailing List Subject: Sorry folks Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:40:48 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 144 Lines: 7 Erm, sorry about that - blame Cookie's mouse (I'm using his old machine) it sticks a bit and I obviously clicked in the wrong place. Maria From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 22:52:16 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Fred Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:44:56 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd2207$33e67a60$2214a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 822 Lines: 21 >How much is a sub to Fred these days? > >I may well think of a sub to Format one of these days... as the last >time I actually read it was then I wrote for it! That's quite some time >ago! > >David Speaking of Fred, I finally received issue 81 today, and it's actually a lot better than people have been saying. There was still no f**king mention of where my copy of Colony is (and I've just given up on Kaboom). There's even a .wav player on the disk (!!!), but apparently it might need the Samdac, which I haven't got, having chosen the Quazar Surround route. Anyone any info? ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 22:52:17 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Hello? Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:47:04 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd2207$800b94c0$2214a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 834 Lines: 24 -----Original Message----- From: Mr M A Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: 15 January 1998 21:48 Subject: Re: Hello? >> erm, i think that's about it. the rest (sam (256k, cassette) + comms >> + disk drive) was sortof a gift. still feel kinda guilty that i don't >> use my sam. > >Why? Maybe it's just because your SAM's NOT VERY GOOD. Hmm. Are you just trying to annoy us or are you attempting humour? No offence, but if you hate the SAM that much, the rest of us happen to quite like it and posting such stuff to us isn't advised :) ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Jan 15 22:59:04 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:54:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <01bd2207$800b94c0$2214a8c2@sparky> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 400 Lines: 10 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, SparkY wrote: > >Why? Maybe it's just because your SAM's NOT VERY GOOD. > > Hmm. Are you just trying to annoy us or are you attempting humour? No > offence, but if you hate the SAM that much, the rest of us happen to quite > like it and posting such stuff to us isn't advised :) Sorry, I'm just in an odd mood. Maybe I've been hit by the TRUTH. No, only joshing. Or am I? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 00:33:20 1998 Message-ID: <34BF1A97.4A74@persona.clara.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:30:15 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 595 Lines: 15 Mr M A Sturdy wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! wrote: > > > I thought BOAI was supposed to making some sort of apperance via Cookies > > web site??? But all I can see is the plug for issue one. > > > > Is there another address, or is it just not up yet? > > > Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. That's not very nice :( From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 09:49:27 1998 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:29:24 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Fred Message-Id: <19980116092939Z49173-21924+899@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 718 Lines: 31 Date: 1998-01-16 09:22 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:15:19 -0800 >From: "David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine]" >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Subject: Fred > >How much is a sub to Fred these days? > >I may well think of a sub to Format one of these days... as the last >time I actually read it was then I wrote for it] That's quite some time >ago] > >David What's going on here ? Bob tidies the office. Bob & Dave agree on something. Dave thinks about a sub to Format. I'm dreaming. I _must_ be dreaming. If Bob invites Persona to the next Gloucester show then I'll know I've died and gone to Heaven. Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 09:49:27 1998 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:29:42 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: BOAI: taunting Message-Id: <19980116093000Z49173-21924+900@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 879 Lines: 25 Date: 1998-01-16 09:23 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:39:31 +0000 (GMT) >From: Mr M A Sturdy >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting > >On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine] wrote: > >> I thought BOAI was supposed to making some sort of apperance via Cookies >> web site??? But all I can see is the plug for issue one. >> >> Is there another address, or is it just not up yet? >> >Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. Come on. Don't hold back just let it all out. You'll feel better after. Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 09:49:27 1998 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:31:22 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Hello? Message-Id: <19980116093146Z49226-21924+903@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 728 Lines: 28 Date: 1998-01-16 09:25 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:54:41 +0000 (GMT) >From: Mr M A Sturdy >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Subject: Re: Hello? >On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, SparkY wrote: >> >Why? Maybe it's just because your SAM's NOT VERY GOOD. >> >> Hmm. Are you just trying to annoy us or are you attempting humour? No >> offence, but if you hate the SAM that much, the rest of us happen to quite >> like it and posting such stuff to us isn't advised :) >Sorry, I'm just in an odd mood. Maybe I've been hit by the TRUTH. No, >only joshing. Or am I? Maybe you need another **THWACK ** [tm! Pasiphae. (aka Nev) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 11:16:16 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Cc: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Hello? References: X-Mammoth-Status: Aware X-{giggle}: Lots! From: The Giggler Date: 16 Jan 1998 11:10:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: Mr M A Sturdy's message of "Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:44:26 +0000 (GMT)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 505 Lines: 18 Mr M A Sturdy writes: > On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Simon Cooke wrote: > > > Is the list still alive? It all of a sudden went... > > > > > > D E A D . . . > > Hmm. Maybe that's because there isn't a great deal that can be said about > an obscure, 8-year old, thrice-flopped 8bit computer, other than that we > were all conned when we bought it, should have hung on to our Speccies > for another year or two, then saved up for PCs. Whoops!!! Troll! ;) -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 12:30:55 1998 Message-ID: <2B07DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:57:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: Fred Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 765 Lines: 31 > Speaking of Fred, I finally received issue 81 today, and it's actually a lot > better than people have been saying. There was quite a good menu :) Incidentally, the long scrolly in the menu wasn't wrapped since whoever wrote the text chopped the terminating character off the end... > There's even a .wav player on the disk (!!!), but apparently it might need the Samdac, > which I haven't got, having chosen the Quazar Surround route. Anyone any > info? You should be able to run the SETUP program and set your sound device to soundchip, but I *think* Quazar is an option (I use a SamDAC). It also reads PC discs if I remember correctly. Dan. Work: dandoore@bacg.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 14:40:01 1998 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:03:01 +0100 (MET) From: Allan Skillman X-Sender: allan@hpopl1.cern.ch To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Update Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1438 Lines: 33 Hi All, To keep you all updated about SimCoupe, there hasn't been an update for a while to two main reasons : 1) I've had a really nasty throat infection since Christmas, nothing to do with Malt Whiskey honest :) 2) I have managed to find a new job! I finish here at UCL at the end of this month and start working for ARM in Cambridge in February. This has meant sorting out a large amount of things over Christmas and January. Nearly everything is done now, so hopefully (throat not withstanding) I should have something to release soon. I guess at some point I will have to sort out about the Web sight for SimCoupe. Hopefully I will be able to keep it at UCL for a while at least, but I guess eventually it will need a new home. regards Allan +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Now available! SimCoupe, the one and only SAM Coupe emulator | | ******* http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ajs/simcoupe ******* | +------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Allan Skillman | "There are five flavours of resons, the | | HEPP Group | elementary particles of magic : up, down, | | University College London | sideways, sex-appeal and peppermint." | | Email : ajs@hep.ucl.ac.uk | - Terry Pratchett (Lords and Ladies) | +------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 16:21:04 1998 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:28:26 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting In-Reply-To: <34BF1A97.4A74@persona.clara.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1272 Lines: 32 In message <34BF1A97.4A74@persona.clara.net>, David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! writes >Mr M A Sturdy wrote: >> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! wrote: >> >> > I thought BOAI was supposed to making some sort of apperance via Cookies >> > web site??? But all I can see is the plug for issue one. >> > >> > Is there another address, or is it just not up yet? >> > >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > >That's not very nice :( That's right, Dave. But arseholes aren't known for being nice. I'm spoilin' for a fight, I am! ;) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 16:46:48 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:40:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@holly To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1067 Lines: 28 On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Graham Goring wrote: > In message <34BF1A97.4A74@persona.clara.net>, David-Editor of Blitz > Fanzine! writes > >Mr M A Sturdy wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! wrote: > >> > >> > I thought BOAI was supposed to making some sort of apperance via Cookies > >> > web site??? But all I can see is the plug for issue one. > >> > > >> > Is there another address, or is it just not up yet? > >> > > >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > > > >That's not very nice :( > > That's right, Dave. But arseholes aren't known for being nice. > > I'm spoilin' for a fight, I am! ;) > > Graham > Right: outside, NOW. I have been following you for the past six months. I know where you are, and I know when you sleep. Hahahaa. Haha. Ha. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 17:20:06 1998 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:13:08 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Update Message-Id: <19980116171321Z49294-21924+1088@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 448 Lines: 20 Date: 1998-01-16 17:12 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:03:01 +0100 (MET) >From: Allan Skillman >To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no >Subject: Update >Hi All, >To keep you all updated about SimCoupe, there hasn't been an update for >a while to two main reasons : >2) I have managed to find a new job] Cronragts (or something like that) ;-) Nev From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 22:14:18 1998 Message-ID: <34C04AE5.4F2E@persona.clara.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:08:37 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Fred References: <2B07DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1130 Lines: 36 Dan Doore wrote: > > Incidentally, the long scrolly in the menu wasn't wrapped since whoever > wrote the text chopped the terminating character off the end... A bit sloppy that ... who wrote it? > > You should be able to run the SETUP program and set your sound device to > soundchip, but I *think* > Quazar is an option (I use a SamDAC). It also reads PC discs if I > remember correctly. Glad it works with the Quazar Surround soundcard ... (not Quazar - that's the incredible software house that releases all the wonderful sofware and hardware, as well as that ace game Stratosphere I've just written a cheque for :) ) If it hadn't, it'd be one of the few magazines that hadn't supported it in one way or the other.... Which reminds me... just how much software is there for the Quazar Surround soundcard? And how much for the SAMDAC? Quazar seem to be one of the busiest publishers around! I know the SAMDAC was the cheaper option, but I'm glad I save up to get Colin's interface... it's been worth it... > Dan. > > Work: dandoore@bacg.com > Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk > VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 22:55:33 1998 Message-ID: <19980116225113.3566.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.20.14] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Fred Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:51:13 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2014 Lines: 50 "David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine!" said: >Glad it works with the Quazar Surround soundcard ... (not Quazar - >that's the incredible software house that releases all the wonderful >sofware and hardware, as well as that ace game Stratosphere >I've just written a cheque for :) ) Yes, the soundcard should be refered to as the 'Quazar Surround', whereas 'Quazar' is my company name. Good! Stratosphere seems to be very going down very well indeed! >Which reminds me... just how much software is there for the Quazar >Surround soundcard? Software for the Quazar Surround? PLENTY! Soundbyte, the monthly disk specifically for the Quazar Surround is now on issue 33! (With the January issue (34) out on the 25th) There is the software specifically for it such as Quazar Studio, Quazar Video Construction Kit. Plus there are my big games like Stratosphere which works both with or without the Quazar Surround. And there's quite a lot from other companies and individuals and quite a few other things which are currently in development. >Quazar seem to be one of the busiest publishers around! I'd agree there :) >but I'm glad I save up to get Colin's interface... it's been >worth it... Others would agree with you... from the feedback I receive the 16 bit sound capabilities of the Quazar Surround and of course the surround sound are judged to be most impressive. Colin P. The Quazar Surround soundcard: 16 bit sound on Sam! Stratosphere - Fast 3d vector action! +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | COLIN PIGGOT | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | QUAZAR: Hardware and | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | Software for the Sam | | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From imc Fri Jan 16 23:14:45 1998 Subject: Re: Fred To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:14:45 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <19980116225113.3566.qmail@hotmail.com> from "Colin Piggot" at Jan 16, 98 02:51:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 298 Lines: 8 On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:51:13 PST, Colin Piggot said: > Yes, the soundcard should be refered to as the 'Quazar Surround', > whereas 'Quazar' is my company name. So how many other sound cards have you produced then? And may I take it that you never refer to Netscape Navigator as "Netscape"? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Jan 16 23:30:39 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199801162314.XAA00291@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <19980116225113.3566.qmail@hotmail.com> from "Colin Piggot" at Jan 16, 98 02:51:13 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:25:56 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Fred X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id XAA02246 Status: RO Content-Length: 903 Lines: 25 At 11:14 pm +0000 16/1/98, Ian Collier wrote: >> Yes, the soundcard should be refered to as the 'Quazar Surround', >> whereas 'Quazar' is my company name. > >So how many other sound cards have you produced then? And may I take >it that you never refer to Netscape Navigator as "Netscape"? But Netscape _have_ released other similar products - Communicator for example. Hello everybody, by the way. Nice Christmas? Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jan 17 00:05:00 1998 Message-Id: <199801170001.QAA19417@f140.hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.20.14] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Fred Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:01:42 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1601 Lines: 36 Ian Collier said: >> Yes, the soundcard should be refered to as the 'Quazar Surround', >> whereas 'Quazar' is my company name. > >So how many other sound cards have you produced then? And may I take >it that you never refer to Netscape Navigator as "Netscape"? The reason I try to ensure the soundcard is refered to as the Quazar Surround is so people know it's proper name. I'll explain... It has happened when talking to someone at a show and they saw the word 'Quazar' on an advert of mine for a game (in this case it was Money Bags 2) and thought immediately they needed the soundcard to run the software and didn't bother reading the rest of the flyer which explained that it worked both with or without the soundcard. That way, if the soundcard is refered to by its proper name it keeps everything clearer. (And keeps things clear when other companies are mentioning either the soundcard or company.) Colin P. __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ /_ / / /_/ / / //_ /_//_//_ / /_ : Fast Mode 4 __/ / / / / / /_/__// / //_ / /_ : 3d Vector Action! +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | COLIN PIGGOT | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | QUAZAR: Hardware and | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | Software for the Sam | | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jan 17 01:37:57 1998 Message-ID: <34C0777F.19A@persona.clara.net> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 01:18:55 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Fred References: <19980116225113.3566.qmail@hotmail.com> from "Colin Piggot" at Jan 16, 98 02:51:13 pm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 119 Lines: 6 Andrew Collier wrote: > > Hello everybody, by the way. Nice Christmas? Not too bad... still drunk thank goodness :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jan 17 01:56:40 1998 Message-ID: <1YYdtGAiIAw0EwvD@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:58:10 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1678 Lines: 43 In message , Mr M A Sturdy writes >On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Graham Goring wrote: > >> In message <34BF1A97.4A74@persona.clara.net>, David-Editor of Blitz >> Fanzine! writes >> >Mr M A Sturdy wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! wrote: >> >> >> >> > I thought BOAI was supposed to making some sort of apperance via Cookies >> >> > web site??? But all I can see is the plug for issue one. >> >> > >> >> > Is there another address, or is it just not up yet? >> >> > >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> > >> >That's not very nice :( >> >> That's right, Dave. But arseholes aren't known for being nice. >> >> I'm spoilin' for a fight, I am! ;) >> >> Graham >> >Right: outside, NOW. I have been following you for the past six months. >I know where you are, and I know when you sleep. Hahahaa. Haha. Ha. Okay, when do I sleep? Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From imc Sat Jan 17 02:01:35 1998 Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:01:35 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <1YYdtGAiIAw0EwvD@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> from "Graham Goring" at Jan 17, 98 00:58:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 108 Lines: 6 On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:58:10 +0000, Graham Goring said: > Okay, when do I sleep? Are you asleep yet? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jan 17 02:18:34 1998 Message-ID: <25vNVHA8LBw0Ewc4@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:10:04 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting In-Reply-To: <199801170201.CAA00711@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 672 Lines: 19 In message <199801170201.CAA00711@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Ian Collier writes >On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:58:10 +0000, Graham Goring said: >> Okay, when do I sleep? > >Are you asleep yet? Nope. :) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jan 17 05:18:15 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980117000108.006bfe5c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:01:08 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting In-Reply-To: <25vNVHA8LBw0Ewc4@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> References: <199801170201.CAA00711@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 886 Lines: 34 At 02:10 AM 1/17/98 +0000, you wrote: >Status: > >In message <199801170201.CAA00711@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Ian Collier > writes >>On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:58:10 +0000, Graham Goring said: >>> Okay, when do I sleep? >> >>Are you asleep yet? > >Nope. :) > >Graham How about now? :) Si ps. BOAI will be up. Eventually. You don't want to know the shit I've been through recently though. Especially the last couple of days. Gulp. pps. Because you don't want to know, I'm not going to tell you, even if you ask. So ner. ppps. It may be missing the comms article initially; but there you go. Time permitting, I'll write the thing eventually. pppps. Damn, I'm running out of p's. I think I'll consider stoqqing some point soon. qqqqqs. You know, stoqqing is probably worth lots of points in Scrabble. Especially as there's only one Q. J'accuse -- cheater!!! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jan 17 10:12:24 1998 From: Dean Liversidge Organization: The Factory To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:50:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Simcoupe Update In-reply-to: Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 813 Lines: 20 > To keep you all updated about SimCoupe, there hasn't been an update > > I guess at some point I will have to sort out about the Web sight > for SimCoupe. Hopefully I will be able to keep it at UCL for a while > at least, but I guess eventually it will need a new home. If you need a temp home for Simcoupe, then i'v got 5Mb of space on demon that i've not got around to using yet, you can use some of that if you want. Talking of Simcoupe, do you or anybody alse know of anybody thats tried compiling it on any compilers other than DJGPP, i'm trying slowly to get into C++ and have Borlands C++ & Builder, but i'm having a few problems with the make file and bits. I'm not sure what it all is about, so i'll just have to keep playing, and i suppose read the manuals or something. -- Dean Liversidge From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jan 17 10:35:43 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 14:56:30 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Fred Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1806 Lines: 55 On Thu 15 Jan 98 (22:44:56), gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk wrote: >>How much is a sub to Fred these days? >> >>I may well think of a sub to Format one of these days... as the last >>time I actually read it was then I wrote for it! That's quite some >time >>ago! >> >>David > >Speaking of Fred, I finally received issue 81 today, and it's actually So did I. I wasn't very impressed. The f**king thing doesn't boot. Had to use another DOS disk to get in to the bloody thing. Then, not even a hint of any news on Kaboom, Colony or anything else for that matter. And what happened to Darren's 'regular' section that seems to have gone missing after one issue. >a lot better than people have been saying. There was still no f**king >mention of where my copy of Colony is (and I've just given up on >Kaboom). There's even a .wav player on the disk (!!!), but apparently I'm going to write to Darren again, possibly tonight, and tell him that I'm still not happy e.t.c , and this time I will enclose an SAE so there will be no excuse for not sending a reply. >it might need the Samdac, which I haven't got, having chosen the Quazar >Surround route. Anyone any >info? > Not tried it yet. I'll let you know if someone else doesn't beat me to it. >============================================== >Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk >IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) >#TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 >ICQ: 5099913 >============================================== > > -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jan 17 12:51:43 1998 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:47:11 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting In-Reply-To: <1YYdtGAiIAw0EwvD@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1388 Lines: 36 On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Graham Goring wrote: > In message , Mr M A > Sturdy writes > >On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Graham Goring wrote: > > > >> In message <34BF1A97.4A74@persona.clara.net>, David-Editor of Blitz > >> Fanzine! writes > >> >Mr M A Sturdy wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > I thought BOAI was supposed to making some sort of apperance via Cookies > >> >> > web site??? But all I can see is the plug for issue one. > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there another address, or is it just not up yet? > >> >> > > >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. > >> > > >> >That's not very nice :( > >> > >> That's right, Dave. But arseholes aren't known for being nice. > >> > >> I'm spoilin' for a fight, I am! ;) > >> > >> Graham > >> > >Right: outside, NOW. I have been following you for the past six months. > >I know where you are, and I know when you sleep. Hahahaa. Haha. Ha. > > Okay, when do I sleep? Ha ha ha haaaaa. Hahaha. Ha. MAKE ME BLEEEEEEEEED! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Jan 17 15:20:03 1998 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:26:45 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1701 Lines: 45 In message , Mark Sturdy writes >> >> >> > I thought BOAI was supposed to making some sort of apperance via >Cookies >> >> >> > web site??? But all I can see is the plug for issue one. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Is there another address, or is it just not up yet? >> >> >> > >> >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> >> >> Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, Cookie's a waster, yes he is. >> >> > >> >> >That's not very nice :( >> >> >> >> That's right, Dave. But arseholes aren't known for being nice. >> >> >> >> I'm spoilin' for a fight, I am! ;) >> >> >> >> Graham >> >> >> >Right: outside, NOW. I have been following you for the past six months. >> >I know where you are, and I know when you sleep. Hahahaa. Haha. Ha. >> >> Okay, when do I sleep? > >Ha ha ha haaaaa. Hahaha. Ha. MAKE ME BLEEEEEEEEED! Well, that's the last peice of evidence I need in my University dissitation entitled: "Why Mark Sturdy Is A Squinty-Eyed Pillock" Thanks. Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From imc Sat Jan 17 21:44:45 1998 Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:44:45 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980117000108.006bfe5c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> from "Simon Cooke" at Jan 17, 98 00:01:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 256 Lines: 7 On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:01:08 -0800, Simon Cooke said: > qqqqqs. You know, stoqqing is probably worth lots of points in Scrabble. > Especially as there's only one Q. J'accuse -- cheater!!! How do you know I'm not using a blank tile as one of the Qs? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 18 02:16:56 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Format and their selective publicity policy... Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 02:06:40 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd23b5$b7c16700$0214a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1020 Lines: 18 Just occurred to me when I received the DECEMBER issue of Format YESTERDAY, that the great God that is Bob has a very selective advertising policy - in that he can make slanderous comments about Persona, which is now regarded as the best SAM software house, but then he can continue to advertise Fred Publishing (and you really think they pay him for it?), despite all the complaints they have received and all the software they owe people...and now I see, on page 27 of that weighty publication, Format, that you are going to run a special offer with Fred next month? How nice. ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 Reminding BOB BRENCHLEY that I asked for my money back for SAM_Clock four months ago (I ordered the damn thing over a year ago (I think I'm gonna make this part of my signature until he answers me... ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 18 14:55:40 1998 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:49:00 -0500 From: Darren Wileman Subject: Format and their selective publicity policy... To: SAM USERS MAILING LIST Message-ID: <199801180949_MC2-2FB9-600B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2434 Lines: 48 To Mr G Smith: In reply to your posting to the SAM Users Group (which is meant to be a SUPPORT group, NOT a SLAGGING OFF group) here is my reply. >Persona, which is now regarded as the best SAM software house, but then he can continue to advertise Fred Publishing (and you really think they pay him for it?), despite all the complaints they have received It always amuses me how much people don't know - never criticise things that you know nothing or little about - it could get you into trouble. It was Format who brought SAM back from the brink 4/5 years ago, and to my knowledge, i have only received 3 complaints about late software. This is because I have a full time job and i put all my efforts into that - this is why FRED is moving back north, or possibly south to Gloucester - to give FRED back it's rightful respect. I am only too aware that i do not have time to run FRED - however, having said that I have always tried to do my best for FRED and the SAM. Your replacement copy of FRED 81, AND Colony are in the post - if you wish to speak to me ring me and do not say things behind people's backs. If you have a problem with something/someone, you call them - you don't go on whinging about it expecting something to be done if the parties concerened don't know you are whinging. Maybe you won't slag FRED and myself off now you know I have been reading postings? People have rung me up and asked about the latest issues of FRED and i have explained to them that we don't like sending blank discs out - we would rather wait until we have a magazine to put out. Many people are understanding. >and all the software they owe people...and now I see, on page 27 of that weighty publication, Format, >that you are going to run a special offer with Fred next month? How nice. We owe anyone nothing. All our records are up to date. It's a real shame you don't put some contributions into FRED, it may just get out a couple of weeks earlier. And, yes we do pay Format for the adverts, not that it is any concern of anyones apart from ours and Format's, and yes, Persona is bigger than FRED these days, but that is only because Malcolm has the time and effort to put into it - i don't any longer, credit to him and good luck. He's doing some great work with the Hard Drive and is 100% SAM. Remember. If it wasn't for Format or FRED, this list probably wouldn't exist. Regards Darren Wileman FRED Publishing From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 18 16:17:27 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199801180949_MC2-2FB9-600B@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:10:31 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id QAA06945 Status: RO Content-Length: 662 Lines: 20 At 2:49 pm +0000 18/1/98, Darren Wileman wrote: >We owe anyone nothing. All our records are up to date. It's a real shame You owe me a copy of Kabooomm. I doubt I'm alone. Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 18 16:52:54 1998 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:51:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801181651.LAA07827@smtp1.erols.com> X-Mailer: HandStamp Pro 1.0 Subject: Re:Format and their selective publicity policy... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Cooke To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 351 Lines: 16 >To Mr G Smith: > >In reply to your posting to the SAM Users Group (which is meant to be a >SUPPORT group, NOT a SLAGGING OFF group) here is my reply. *grins* He not been here vewy long, has he? :) Cookie --- Simon Cooke - sc@netfusion.co.uk Product Development Specialist / Webmaster netFUSION is now live on the web - http://www.netfusion.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 18 17:28:13 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 17:20:51 GMT Message-ID: <34c73998.10314783@mail.enterprise.net> References: <199801180949_MC2-2FB9-600B@compuserve.com> In-Reply-To: <199801180949_MC2-2FB9-600B@compuserve.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 273 Lines: 17 On Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:49:00 -0500, you wrote: Darren, Fair enough for your defensive reply to Gavin - which has nothing to do with me, but.. >Remember. If it wasn't for Format or FRED, this list probably wouldn't >exist. Bollocks! :) How do you work that out? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 18 17:58:47 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 17:51:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: SAM USERS MAILING LIST Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-Reply-To: <199801180949_MC2-2FB9-600B@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1063 Lines: 28 On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Darren Wileman wrote: > In reply to your posting to the SAM Users Group (which is meant to be a > SUPPORT group, NOT a SLAGGING OFF group) here is my reply. Funny, I thought it was a discussiong group. > It always amuses me how much people don't know - never criticise things > that you know nothing or little about - it could get you into trouble. Why, what ought we to know about Persona? Bob? David? Anyone? > It was Format who brought SAM back from the brink 4/5 years ago The brink of what, exactly? Obscurity and commercial oblivion? > i have only received 3 complaints about late software. This is > because I have a full time job and i put all my efforts into that Why should the amount of complaints you receive be connected to the amout of effort you're putting in at work? > Remember. If it wasn't for Format or FRED, this list probably wouldn't > exist. Presumably referring to what Format or Fred were doing 4, 5, 6 years ago. That doesn't mean either has any kind of automatic superiority over anyone else now. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 18 19:53:59 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 18 Jan 98 19:46:30 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id TAA09364 Status: RO Content-Length: 1113 Lines: 42 On Sun 18 Jan 98 (16:10:31 +0000), asc25@cam.ac.uk wrote: >At 2:49 pm +0000 18/1/98, Darren Wileman wrote: > >>We owe anyone nothing. All our records are up to date. It's a real >shame > >You owe me a copy of Kabooomm. > Snap. AND I wrote to you, but you didn't reply. >I doubt I'm alone. > >Andrew > > >--- > >+----------------------------+----------------------------------------- >----+ | Andrew Collier | >LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn > | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: >asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | >http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP > | >+----------------------------+----------------------------------------- >----+ > > > -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 18 20:21:34 1998 Message-Id: <199801182014.VAA06015@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:14:01 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1097 Lines: 33 > Van: Darren Wileman > Aan: SAM USERS MAILING LIST > Onderwerp: Format and their selective publicity policy... > Datum: Sunday, January 18, 1998 3:49 > > To Mr G Smith: > > In reply to your posting to the SAM Users Group (which is meant to be a > SUPPORT group, NOT a SLAGGING OFF group) here is my reply. BS, this the perfect place, we also could take this discussion over to the NG CSS. > >and all the software they owe people...and now I see, on page 27 of that > weighty publication, Format, >that you are going to run a special offer > with Fred next month? How nice. > > We owe anyone nothing. All our records are up to date. Yeah sure where is my FRED 81 then? I do recall that I have a sub until issue 83. I was going to email this anyway because Martijn Groen (who just lives around the corner from my place, well almost, you could walk to it..) already has his Fred 81 for almost a week now. Ja ne -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] The borderline Express will terminate at this station :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Jan 18 23:28:11 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:18:03 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd2467$5392c140$1314a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2998 Lines: 65 > In reply to your posting to the SAM Users Group (which is meant to be a > SUPPORT group, NOT a SLAGGING OFF group) here is my reply. I think you'll find it's actually a mailing list where we debate, discuss and chat about SAM things - something you clearly haven't bothered to join in with until now. > best for FRED and the SAM. Your replacement copy of FRED 81, AND Colony Hang on, both FRED 81 AND Colony got lost in the post? You say that as if it's my fault they got lost. I presume then that the replies to my queries on where my copies of Colony, Kaboom and X-Sights 3 are, all got lost too? I seem to remember I wrote to you on at least two occasions, complaining and got no replies whatsoever (like a number of people on this list). > are in the post - if you wish to speak to me ring me and do not say things > behind people's backs. Excuse me, but like I said, I damn well wrote to you! I'm not going to waste any more money on you by phoning England (I'm in Belfast, my phone bill is high enough!) > Maybe you won't slag FRED and myself off now you know I have been reading postings? I didn't slag anyone off, the point was about Format continuing to advertise Fred Publishing when they are clearly so unreliable these days. And if you have been reading postings, you could have had the decency to reply to the numerous complaints and queries about Fred Publishing. > People have rung me up and asked about the latest issues of FRED and i have > explained to them that we don't like sending blank discs out - we would > rather wait until we have a magazine to put out. Many people are > understanding. I thought you said mine got lost in the post? > Remember. If it wasn't for Format or FRED, this list probably wouldn't > exist. Erm. I fail to see your point nor its relevance. Listen, I support as many SAM companies as I possibly can, and I buy as many of their products as I can. I'm a student, and I'm not exactly loaded with money, but I love my SAM and I want to keep it alive as long as possible. I'm just getting a little tired of sending out cheques to people, when they don't have the decency to reply for literally years (in some cases), nor do they reply to any letters I send them about what has happened to my money. It may not seem much to you, but me sending out 15 quid or so every time a new bit of software comes out, and then only getting replies from about 50% of those orders, it soon mounts up. I'm not bothered if new products are delayed, it's inevitable. I just don't like it when I send money and then hear nothing else for over a year, not even a reply to my friendly queries of how close to release the item is. I dont think I'm being unreasonable when I want to know what you do with my money. ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 09:43:50 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <00256591.00331B4C.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:37:30 +0000 Subject: "Finally, it's happened to me..." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1199 Lines: 38 Yay!!! *pauses to read the slagging off* Oh dear... I thought it was a bit too peaceful recently... Anyway, I finally got my Quazer SurroundSound!!! It's pretty good. I'm impressed. It's a shame it doesn't like a pair of headphones stuck into one of the "holes". It's a bit quiet. Am I doing something wrong or doesn't Stratosphere have gorgeous sound during the actual game? The tune is great and I love the "groan"-type noises. It was just a bit confusing when I thought "Hey, cool sound.", turned off the sound on the telly, got the Level One "groan", played the game and 'silence'.... I thought the soundcard was blurghed so I died on purpose and the "groan" was there to tell me the game was over... Played it again, but I put the TV volume up and voila, I got noises again. Oh, talking about Stratosphere: Colin, any chance of sending me a replacement Disk 1? It's kind of - ermmm - how can I put it? Broken. I'll pay any costs when I send my cheque to pay for a subscription for Soundbyte. That reminds me. I still need to send another cheque to Persona for the next 6 issues of Blitz.... It seems I'm forever spending money this week. (And I just bought myself a Playstation aswell) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 10:53:38 1998 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:30:35 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Format and their selective publicity policy... Message-Id: <19980119103052Z49848-29158+93@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 809 Lines: 27 Date: 1998-01-19 09:56 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "SparkY" To: Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:18:03 -0000 > I didn't slag anyone off, the point was about Format continuing to advertise > Fred Publishing when they are clearly so unreliable these days. And if you > have been reading postings, you could have had the decency to reply to the > numerous complaints and queries about Fred Publishing. Hey Format still carry adverts for SDSoftware and they are really very unreliable these days. I hear that some people have to wait weeks for a reply to queries or for orders to be filled. Erm. Hang on. Oh bugger. ... Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 11:11:44 1998 From: Paul Walker Message-Id: <199801191101.LAA05272@lupin.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-Reply-To: <199801180949_MC2-2FB9-600B@compuserve.com> from Darren Wileman at "Jan 18, 98 09:49:00 am" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:01:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Approved: bill@whitehouse.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 603 Lines: 18 > We owe anyone nothing. All our records are up to date. It's a real shame Better tell that to all the people who have said they haven't received Kaboom. > Remember. If it wasn't for Format or FRED, this list probably wouldn't > exist. That's doubtful, but even if it is the case - so what? It doesn't mean that you're above criticism, especially when you weren't even running FRED at the time. At the risk of stating the obvious, if you don't have time to run FRED properly, then sell/give it to someone who can do so, rather than doing a partial job. That doesn't do anyone any favours. Paul From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 12:28:59 1998 Message-Id: <199801191209.MAA14128@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:08:44 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Fred In-reply-to: <34C04AE5.4F2E@persona.clara.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 351 Lines: 10 > > Incidentally, the long scrolly in the menu wasn't wrapped since whoever > > wrote the text chopped the terminating character off the end... hello. i'm dave and my claim to fame is that i had the world's first sam scroller type-in-and-run prog published in YS's program pitstop. and that one wrapped around fine. they shoulda got me to do it. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 13:45:53 1998 Message-ID: <9A0ADA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:39:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: Fred Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 751 Lines: 25 > > > Incidentally, the long scrolly in the menu wasn't wrapped since whoever > > > wrote the text chopped the terminating character off the end... > > hello. > i'm dave and my claim to fame is that i had the world's first sam > scroller type-in-and-run prog published in YS's program pitstop. and > that one wrapped around fine. Hello, I'm Dan and I wrote the scrolly and it wraps just fine providing whoever overwrites the text file with their own message puts the bloody terminator back in :) :) > they shoulda got me to do it. I expect to see the Fred 82 menu by your good self, and don't worry, you'll have a lot of time to write it >:-> Dan. Work: dandoore@bacg.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 14:24:08 1998 Message-ID: <19980119140504.21028.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.20.11] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: "Finally, it's happened to me..." Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:05:04 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1705 Lines: 39 Justin Skists said: >Anyway, I finally got my Quazer Surround!!! It's pretty good. >I'm impressed. Good to hear! >Am I doing something wrong or doesn't Stratosphere have gorgeous >sound during the actual game? The tune is great and I love the > "groan"-type noises. It was just a bit confusing when I thought > "Hey, cool sound.", turned off the sound on the telly, >got the Level One "groan", played the game and 'silence'.... I >thought the soundcard was blurghed so I died on purpose and the > "groan" was there to tell me the game was over... Played it again, > but I put the TV volume up and voila, I got noises >again. I wanted every scrap of processing time available for the 3d engine to make that as fast as possible! That's why there is no extra sound during the gameplay, plus the 3d engine takes up most of the memory so there would be practically no room to squeeze any in... but i'm sure you'd agree the 2 megabytes of extra sound there is for the Quazar Surround really enchance Stratosphere. Colin P. __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ /_ / / /_/ / / //_ /_//_//_ / /_ : Fast Mode 4 __/ / / / / / /_/__// / //_ / /_ : 3d Vector Action! +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | COLIN PIGGOT | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | QUAZAR: Hardware and | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | Software for the Sam | | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 14:55:19 1998 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 13:01:08 GMT Message-ID: <950_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Format and their selective pub X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1094 Lines: 37 In E-Mail <199801180949_MC2-2FB9-600B@compuserve.com> Darren Wileman wrote:- >If you have a problem with something/someone, you call them You mean like you when you bothered to call either Colin or Allan when Fred was so late... or like how you've bothered to call Wayne to sort out Kaboom? Wait a minute... I'm on the phone with someone right now... here's a quote - "Darren, the telephone line also carries voice as well as data, you know." - Allan Clarkson. >I am only too aware that i do not have time to run FRED - however, >having said that I have always tried to do my best for FRED and the >SAM. If you're only too aware of this, why the HELL did you take it on in the first place? __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk "You never know when an old calendar might come in handy. Sure, it's not 1985 right now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?" - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 14:55:19 1998 Message-Id: <199801191444.OAA23180@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:44:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Format and their selective pub In-reply-to: <950_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 704 Lines: 17 > >If you have a problem with something/someone, you call them > > You mean like you when you bothered to call either Colin or Allan when > Fred was so late... or like how you've bothered to call Wayne to > sort out Kaboom? [snip] i'm almost glad i've given up on the sam scene... i don't have to put with this sorta crap. i never bought fred, and i bought few games (i think only one thing by mail and that was the splendid Midi Sequencer v3) ... but it looks to me like i therefore avoided a lot of unnecessary hassle. ok, so i ended up with a sam with little or no software, which i then gave up using for exactly that reason, but my life is more calm and stressfree. know what i mean? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 15:13:44 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:07:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@holly To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and their selective pub In-Reply-To: <950_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 126 Lines: 2 Format and their selective pub? I always thought that place round the near Quedgely Village Hall was very egalitarian . . . From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 15:57:31 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <00256591.00557CE3.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:52:56 +0000 Subject: Re: "Finally, it's happened to me..." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 953 Lines: 25 >>>>> Colin P. says >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted every scrap of processing time available for the 3d engine to make that as fast as possible! That's why there is no extra sound during the gameplay, plus the 3d engine takes up most of the memory so there would be practically no room to squeeze any in... but i'm sure you'd agree the 2 megabytes of extra sound there is for the Quazar Surround really enchance Stratosphere. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< That's a good enough reason... I think what confused me the most was the fact that the sound came from another source (ie, not my multimedia speakers) And, yes.. I certainly agree... Okie. Plan two: Get the sound signal from the SAM (from the lightpen or SCART port). Get myself a cheap mixing desk. Wire it all up so it would go into my amplified speakers at the same time... (Coz SAM sound on my TV is poo and not stereo and noisy with certain colours occupying the screen). Any opinions anyone? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 16:52:02 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Fred 81 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:33:06 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd24f7$eba4a580$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1114 Lines: 24 I mentioned the Wave Player a few posts ago, and asked if it would work with the Quazar Surround soundcard. If you look at the BASIC code in the "setup" program on the disk, it seems the player only works with SAMDac and Blue Alpha's thing - if anyone has the necessary kit, how big a sample can it play? Also Viking Raiders on Fred 81 doesn't work unless you add a mode 1 statement ;) If you read the last REM it also appears the game isn't finished... PacDemo is gorgeous though, very authentic, all it needs now is to have more than one level :) (All the above isn't another dig at Fred by the way, just trying to help...:) Note to Darren - you mentioned in your charming mail (*grins*) that you sent replacement copies of Fred 81 and Colony out in the post to me - erm Fred 81 arrived, but obviously the postal service opened up your envelope and removed Colony... ;) ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 16:52:03 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: "Finally, it's happened to me..." Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:22:56 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd24f6$807a5ee0$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1361 Lines: 33 -----Original Message----- From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk >That's a good enough reason... >I think what confused me the most was the fact that the sound came from >another source (ie, not my multimedia speakers) > >And, yes.. I certainly agree... > >Okie. Plan two: Get the sound signal from the SAM (from the lightpen or >SCART >port). Get myself a cheap mixing desk. Wire it all up so it would go into >my >amplified speakers at the same time... (Coz SAM sound on my TV is poo and >not stereo and noisy with certain colours occupying the screen). Any >opinions >anyone? Glad to hear you got the Quazar Surround soundcard - nifty little box isn't it? I was well chuffed and impressed when I got mine. Love Stratosphere too, though haven't been able to play it as much as I would have liked because of exams and stuff (last one tomorrow on Networking! yikes!). And I too would like all sound to come from my speakers, when I bought the card in the first place, I assumed it piped all SAM sounds through it to the amplifier, but obviously not :( If you've any luck, let me know :) Cheers... ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 17:13:13 1998 Message-Id: <199801191704.SAA19795@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Fred 81 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:03:18 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 694 Lines: 21 > Van: SparkY > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Fred 81 > Datum: Monday, January 19, 1998 5:33 > > I mentioned the Wave Player a few posts ago, and asked if it would work with > the Quazar Surround soundcard. If you look at the BASIC code in the "setup" > program on the disk, it seems the player only works with SAMDac and Blue > Alpha's thing - if anyone has the necessary kit, how big a sample can it > play? It can play up to 492k, but I am not sure how Martijn did speeds, but 11, 22 and 44khz mono or stereo should be Okhi. Ja ne -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] The borderline Express will terminate at this station :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 17:13:29 1998 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:54:20 -0500 From: D Wileman Subject: Re: Format and their selective pub To: SAM USER GROUP Message-ID: <199801191155_MC2-2FE2-F123@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id RAA13545 Status: RO Content-Length: 547 Lines: 12 I took on fred before i got a promotion at work which means i work different hours - hence, i don't have time to call people as for Kaboom, I will publish Wayne's Address here tomorrow - people can take it up with him - not me. Everyone who ordered Kaboom can have another item free. darren i have better things to do with my life than argue about this sort of crap. Anyone want fred? you can have it if you are prepared to put £400 of your own money to keep it afloat - anyone got £400 to spare eh? I'm not putting another penny into FRED From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 17:13:30 1998 Message-Id: <199801191712.RAA28741@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:12:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Fred 81 In-reply-to: <199801191704.SAA19795@mailserv.caiw.nl> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 22 Lines: 4 > Ja ne who's Jane? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 17:27:15 1998 Message-Id: <199801191720.RAA00358@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:20:19 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: some trivial stuff X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 743 Lines: 21 hi cuz i'm a sad, lonely type, i decided to delve into windows 95 and do stuff. so now i have file associations and registry stuff that means i can load (speecy emulator) files *.Z80, *.SNA and *.TAP with just a double-click. and i've got some icons too so they look like proper apps in stuff like Explorer (and not just 'Z80 file'). and i love it. if anyone cares (presuming that they actually own Gerton Lunter's Z80 in the first place) then email me and i'll send you the stuff (one icons .dll, two .Z80 snaps (to load tap files automatically... hard to explain but v. useful and they save you having to type in Load "" each time) and a bunch of registry data... installation is trivial) yeh? no? ahhh, please yrselves. dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 17:37:00 1998 Message-Id: <199801191730.SAA28056@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Fred 81 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:29:18 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 337 Lines: 19 ---------- > Van: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Fred 81 > Datum: Monday, January 19, 1998 6:12 > > > Ja ne > Ja ne = See you (Japanese :) Begrepen? Mata ne -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] The borderline Express will terminate at this station :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 18:33:55 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:09:50 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd2505$6ef42480$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 869 Lines: 30 -----Original Message----- From: D Wileman > I will publish Wayne's Address here tomorrow - people can take it up with him > - not me. LOL! I pity Wayne tomorrow...:) > i have better things to do with my life than argue about this sort of crap. Erm. Hmm. We were just sort of wondering what happened to our money, sorry if you think that's crap :) > Anyone want fred? you can have it if you are prepared to put #400 of your > own money to keep it afloat - anyone got #400 to spare eh? I'm not putting > another penny into FRED Most I could go to would be #100 :) Oh go on, please... :) ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 18:33:55 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: some trivial stuff Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:17:50 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd2506$8d69e200$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1006 Lines: 24 Dave Hooper wrote.. > cuz i'm a sad, lonely type, i decided to delve into windows 95 and do > stuff. so now i have file associations and registry stuff that means > i can load (speecy emulator) files *.Z80, *.SNA and *.TAP with just a > double-click. and i've got some icons too so they look like proper > apps in stuff like Explorer (and not just 'Z80 file'). and i love > it. ZX32 does all that for you, and it runs under Windows 95, and it has gorgeous icons, and it has a gorgeous interface, and you can just double click the filenames cos all associations are set up for you, and it's the best Speccy emulator I've seen, and it's free! (Sorry if that took anything away from your hard work ;) I think you can get the emulator at http://zx32.home.ml.org HTH ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 21:31:00 1998 From: Martin Rookyard To: sam-users Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:21:22 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 545 Lines: 23 ---------- > From: Ian Collier > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Subject: Re: BOAI: taunting > Date: 17 January 1998 21:44 > > On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:01:08 -0800, Simon Cooke said: > > qqqqqs. You know, stoqqing is probably worth lots of points in Scrabble. > > Especially as there's only one Q. J'accuse -- cheater!!! > > How do you know I'm not using a blank tile as one of the Qs? > > imc Even if it *was* a real word it wouldn't do you much good - as everyone knows you don't get any points for the blanks! Maria From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 21:35:01 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <623f5db1.34c3c3a9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:20:18 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 151 Lines: 8 In a message dated 15/01/98 22:40:48, you write: > > Why? Maybe it's just because your SAM's NOT VERY GOOD. > > KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL...... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 21:41:46 1998 Message-ID: <34C20ED4.215C@ndirect.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 14:16:52 +0000 From: Nev Young Organization: ndirect X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Any one for a party ? References: <01bd23b5$b7c16700$0214a8c2@sparky> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 606 Lines: 16 Hi, I'm going to be in Amsterdam (13th-15th Mar) and wondered if any one would like to join me for a drink/meal/piss up. -- ---------------------------------------------------- | | |This site is developing self awareness | |(Oh no I'm not. cognito ergo P120-S) | |--------------------------------------------------| |Home nevilley @ ndirect.co.uk | |Work gbh3rknr @ ibmmail.com | |http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~nevilley/homepage.htm | ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 21:45:36 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <6defa8b1.34c3c393@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:20:17 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and their selective pub Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 246 Lines: 10 In a message dated 19/01/98 16:06:38, you write: > > Format and their selective pub? I always thought that place round the > near Quedgely Village Hall was very egalitarian . . . > Too bloody true, they will even let me in..... -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 21:48:12 1998 Message-ID: <34C439E9.5E01@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:45:13 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? References: <01bd23b5$b7c16700$0214a8c2@sparky> <34C20ED4.215C@ndirect.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 219 Lines: 10 Nev Young wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm going to be in Amsterdam (13th-15th Mar) and wondered if any one > would like to join me for a drink/meal/piss up. Love to! Err... you don't expect me to pay my own fare do you ? :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 21:56:26 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <3041eb31.34c3c396@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:20:20 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Fred Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 354 Lines: 17 In a message dated 16/01/98 09:52:43, you write: > > What's going on here ? > > Bob tidies the office. > Bob & Dave agree on something. > Dave thinks about a sub to Format. > > I'm dreaming. I _must_ be dreaming. > > If Bob invites Persona to the next Gloucester show then I'll know I've died > and gone to Heaven. > > Nev. > r.i.p. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 22:47:11 1998 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 21:28:48 GMT Message-ID: <953_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: James@lhutz.demon.co.uk (James R Curry & Allan Clarkson) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: Re: Format and their selective X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1998 Lines: 63 In E-Mail <199801191155_MC2-2FE2-F123@compuserve.com> D Wileman wrote:- >I took on fred before i got a promotion at work which means i work >different hours - hence, i don't have time to call people Oh no, it's very time consuming just to push a few buttons, for gods sake - you have time to answer calls, and to come on the 'net, so why the hell can't you pick up a phone from time to time and properly fulfill your FRED responsibilities. >as for Kaboom, >I will publish Wayne's Address here tomorrow - people can take it up >with him- not me. [ALLAN : Oh, how very professional. And while you're about it, print my address so that people can ask me why you take a month to post out copies of FRED why don't you?] Yeah, it's not the resposibility of the person who owns the company now, is it? >Everyone who ordered Kaboom can have another item free. Well here is at least one good idea... anything left on the FRED price list that everyone does not already own? > > >darren > >i have better things to do with my life than argue about this sort of >crap. Well then, as I said, you shouldn't have taken this on and promised people things that you don't really have the determination to deliver. >Anyone want fred? you can have it if you are prepared to put >#400 of your own money to keep it afloat - anyone got #400 to spare >eh? Well, that's the professional attitude we need. Very good business writing, that. :) >I'm not putting another penny into FRED [ALLAN : I guess Colin and I are not getting paid anymore, then?] __ James R Curry - James@lhutz.demon.co.uk with special celeberity guest star : Allan Clarkson. "You never know when an old calendar might come in handy. Sure, it's not 1985 right now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?" - Homer Simpson, The Simpsons. The official James R Curry web page - Very soon, I promise. Honest. Ah, come on, you believe me, don't you?! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 22:47:11 1998 Message-ID: <34C43DAA.73F2@persona.clara.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:01:14 -0800 From: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! Organization: Blitz Diskzine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Fred References: <3041eb31.34c3c396@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 620 Lines: 29 BrenchleyR wrote: > > In a message dated 16/01/98 09:52:43, you write: > > > > > What's going on here ? > > > > Bob tidies the office. Never an easy thing! > > Bob & Dave agree on something. > > Dave thinks about a sub to Format. Not just thinking ... would like to be reminded how much it is...! > > I'm dreaming. I _must_ be dreaming. David shouts "WAKE UP!!! I WANNA PIZZA" :) > > If Bob invites Persona to the next Gloucester show then I'll know I've died > > and gone to Heaven. > > > > Nev. > > > r.i.p. Hmmmm.... wonder if I'll get a chance to get down this time? When is the next one anyway? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 22:47:13 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:20:16 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 343 Lines: 16 In a message dated 19/01/98 11:16:35, you write: > > > We owe anyone nothing. All our records are up to date. It's a real shame > > Better tell that to all the people who have said they haven't received > Kaboom. I think we ALL know the position with Kaboom, and Darren is the last person you could blame for that. [snip] -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 22:47:13 1998 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 21:52:50 GMT Message-ID: <956_OASIS_@lhutz.demon.co.uk> From: allan@lhutz.demon.co.uk (Allan R Clarkson esq.) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no X-Mailer: OASIS Post Box (Atari) v1.31E Subject: I'll terminate you characters! X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 483 Lines: 12 All right, I admit it, it's not my fault, I can't help having a life. I do my best, whenever Colin sends me some stuff I put it together and all you lot point out is one tiny little stupid mistake. To be honest, even though I'm saying it myself that was probably the most boring scrolly ever written, you fools! And you sat all the way through it. May I suggest that you join a video library, buy a satellite system, or shut your big fat faces. __ Allan. (Via James Curry) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 23:06:23 1998 Message-Id: <199801192259.XAA29660@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:50:53 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 926 Lines: 32 ---------- > Van: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Any one for a party ? > Datum: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 6:45 > > Nev Young wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm going to be in Amsterdam (13th-15th Mar) and wondered if any one > > would like to join me for a drink/meal/piss up. > > Love to! > > Err... you don't expect me to pay my own fare do you ? :) Mmmmh why do I get this one before the original mail, oh no wonder, it is being posted un tuesday the 20th while at my place it is still the 19th. Or is my mailserver screwing up again? 13th-15th of mar, I don't I have anything planned for that weekend, probably I could drag Martijn into my car and take a little drive to Amsterdam (which means no drinking on my part). Ja ne -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] The borderline Express will terminate at this station :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Jan 19 23:06:24 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980119174046.006c1dac@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:40:46 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? In-Reply-To: <34C20ED4.215C@ndirect.co.uk> References: <01bd23b5$b7c16700$0214a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 317 Lines: 14 At 02:16 PM 1/18/98 +0000, you wrote: >Status: > >Hi, > >I'm going to be in Amsterdam (13th-15th Mar) and wondered if any one >would like to join me for a drink/meal/piss up. Ah... you must be one of the cultural bunch -- you didn't add "smoke" to the end of that list. Unless you're eating hash brownies ;) Si From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 00:52:54 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:24:21 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id AAA26981 Status: RO Content-Length: 2345 Lines: 52 At 9:20 pm +0000 19/1/98, BrenchleyR wrote: >> > We owe anyone nothing. All our records are up to date. It's a real >shame >> >> Better tell that to all the people who have said they haven't received >> Kaboom. > >I think we ALL know the position with Kaboom, and Darren is the last person >you could blame for that. I agree that this probably isn't Darren's fault. But I assert that it is his responsibility. I'm not trying to apportion blame, but it is at best unwise to make statements such as "We owe anyone nothing" which are not at all correct, and are only going to annoy people. I haven't complained to Darren, mainly because I know it's not really his fault, and that wasting time and money on a phone bill probably wouldn't achieve anything. But that doesn't stop me being concerned that I've spent my money on - so far - no product. It was for release "in a few weeks" about two years ago. Not that I want to stir things up, but just an observation.... If I remember rightly, this thread started with an interesting comparison between Fred (who's software has been delayed through no fault of the owner, and has received full support from Format magazine) and Persona (who AFAIK are up to date with orders, and yet have received bad press and abuse from Format because another company [Phoenix] had software delayed through no fault of the owner). I have yet to hear a satisfactory explanation for this attitude, whether or not you still think it. I am not saying (and never have said) that Fred should be denied publicity, or that you should start making personal insults about Colin (previous owner) or Darren. Rather, that you should not deny Persona their publicity, and that apologies should be made for the past comments about David (similarly previous owner) and Malcolm. Did you ever tell that guy where to buy the Midi Sequencer? Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 00:52:54 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980119192734.006c7664@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:27:34 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 500 Lines: 16 At 12:24 AM 1/20/98 +0000, you wrote: >Status: > >At 9:20 pm +0000 19/1/98, BrenchleyR wrote: > >>> > We owe anyone nothing. All our records are up to date. It's a real >>shame >I'm not trying to apportion blame, but it is at best unwise to make >statements such as "We owe anyone nothing" which are not at all correct, >and are only going to annoy people. Looking at it for a second glance, it's completely grammatically incorrect, isn't it? I mean "We owe anyone nothing". Pshaw ;) Cookie From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 01:04:53 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:27:41 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 925 Lines: 26 In message , BrenchleyR writes >In a message dated 19/01/98 11:16:35, you write: > >> >> > We owe anyone nothing. All our records are up to date. It's a real >shame >> >> Better tell that to all the people who have said they haven't received >> Kaboom. > >I think we ALL know the position with Kaboom, and Darren is the last person >you could blame for that. Um, what IS the position RE: Kaboom? Whose fault is it? Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 01:28:42 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 01:21:29 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd2541$bc222c20$0214a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1416 Lines: 34 Andrew Collier wrote... > Not that I want to stir things up, but just an observation.... If I > remember rightly, this thread started with an interesting comparison > between Fred (who's software has been delayed through no fault of the > owner, and has received full support from Format magazine) and Persona (who > AFAIK are up to date with orders, and yet have received bad press and abuse > from Format because another company [Phoenix] had software delayed through > no fault of the owner). I have yet to hear a satisfactory explanation for > this attitude, whether or not you still think it. Nice try Andrew, but it's not like he is going to reply to us is he? I think we've all noticed that he will just ignore any points that he can't defend. Thanks for trying to bring the thread back to my original point though. And Darren, like I said before, the fact that software is delayed isn't your fault (not directly anyway), the point was that if someone queries where their money has been for the last 2 years (with Kaboom, X-Sights 3 and Colony), maybe you would have the decency to reply to one of their letters on the subject - you still haven't done that. ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 01:28:42 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 01:23:58 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd2542$154737a0$0214a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 592 Lines: 20 -----Original Message----- From: Simon Cooke >>I'm not trying to apportion blame, but it is at best unwise to make >>statements such as "We owe anyone nothing" which are not at all correct, >>and are only going to annoy people. > >Looking at it for a second glance, it's completely grammatically incorrect, >isn't it? I mean "We owe anyone nothing". Pshaw ;) > >Cookie Trust Smart Arse himself to point that out ;) (Off to do last minute revision for my Networking exam tomorrow...I could tell them how to make a LAN of Speccys but not much else *gulps*) Gavin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 09:07:00 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 8:30:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: Fred 81 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 898 Lines: 35 > I mentioned the Wave Player a few posts ago, and asked if it would work with > the Quazar Surround soundcard. If you look at the BASIC code in the "setup" > program on the disk, it seems the player only works with SAMDac and Blue > Alpha's thing - if anyone has the necessary kit, how big a sample can it > play? Hmmm, I checked this out last night, there are four options on the 'select soundblaster' menu in setup: 0 - Soundchip 1 - Eddac 2 - Blue Alpha 3 - Quazar* AFAIK the player is based on bits of Stefan's MOD player code so it should work with all of the above. As previously mentioned, I have a SamDAC (cos I'm cheap) and it sounds super through that - the sound chip's far too nasty though... Dan. Work: dandoore@bacg.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ *That's what it _says_ on the menu, "Quazar Surround" fans... :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 10:16:05 1998 Message-Id: <199801201004.KAA05844@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:04:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19980119174046.006c1dac@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> References: <34C20ED4.215C@ndirect.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 133 Lines: 6 > Unless you're eating hash brownies ;) or drinking hash beer? just a thought. would probably never be marketable. then again ... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 10:35:14 1998 Message-Id: <199801201022.KAA09409@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:22:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: some trivial stuff In-reply-to: <01bd2506$8d69e200$LocalHost@SPARKY> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1194 Lines: 29 > ZX32 does all that for you, and it runs under Windows 95, and it has > gorgeous icons, and it has a gorgeous interface, and you can just double > click the filenames cos all associations are set up for you, and it's the > best Speccy emulator I've seen, and it's free! (Sorry if that took anything > away from your hard work ;) I think you can get the emulator at > http://zx32.home.ml.org nah, think i'll give it a miss. typical quote from the webpage: 'Send me an email specifying what the problem is and i'll try and fix it! For example, the DAA bug should be fixed by the next release' on the next release page: 'There are no new releases scheduled for the near future, please check back in a couple of months' plus there's all that crap about directx and stuff... it's emulating a speccy for gawd's sake! i'll stick with Z80 (special edition (c) 1994 free with PC Format or sommat) if it's ok by you... least it runs *v. quick* (none of this Win95 latency bobbins) and doesn't need any fancy drivers to run at that speed (not as if i don't already have Dx5, but you know what i mean. Z80 doesn't have to go through drivers upon drivers to do stuff => faster) (maybe) dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 10:35:14 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <00256592.0036355D.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:25:26 +0000 Subject: SAM with Quazar SurroundSound Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1394 Lines: 37 OK, As part of my quest for stereo sound from the SAM and the Quazar SurroundSound to come out of the same speakers, I did some experiments last night. (There were some unsuccesful attempts at getting any sound out at all: I was using my little expansion bus i/face board for experiment uses but it took me a while to realise that I didn't even bother wiring up the audio connections when I made the thing... In fact, I didn't even notice this until after I packed up - I assumed that my SAM didn't output its sound through the expansion socket which didn't worry me since the Quazar Surround Sound would be there!) Anyway. I managed to get sound out of the lightpen socket by sticking some wire down the holes and touching the other ends to the 3.5 jack of my amplified (Amplified? Yeah right!) speakers and straight away, there was a vast improvement in the quality of the sound (a repeated ZAP: PAUSE 10 command). So, this weekend I shall visit Maplins with a few part numbers of connections and things and find somewhere with a cheap mixing desk with at least two stereo inputs and one stereo output (wouldn't it be nice if I could have the output of my portable stereo coming out of the same speakers as my SAM at the same time :) - But NOT with those speakers I have now...) I'll let you know how I get on... Maybe write a little article on it if I get it working nicely.. Justin From imc Tue Jan 20 11:12:51 1998 Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:12:51 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <199801192259.XAA29660@mailserv.caiw.nl> from "Robert van der Veeke" at Jan 19, 98 11:50:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 537 Lines: 13 On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:50:53 +0100, Robert van der Veeke said: > > Van: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! > > Datum: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 6:45 > Mmmmh why do I get this one before the original mail, oh no wonder, it is > being posted un tuesday the 20th while at my place it is still the 19th. Or > is my mailserver screwing up again? No, it's another person using Netscape Mail who hasn't set the right timezone. Seems to happen a lot nowadays. Hint David: put SET TZ=GMT0BST in your autoexec.bat. imc From imc Tue Jan 20 11:13:31 1998 Subject: Re: Hello? To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:13:31 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "BrenchleyR" at Jan 19, 98 04:20:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 156 Lines: 6 On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:20:18 EST, BrenchleyR said for the second time: > KILL, KILL, KILL....... Why does mail from some people always arrive twice? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 11:34:01 1998 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:23:58 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Any one for a party ? Message-Id: <19980120112428Z49954-29158+944@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1048 Lines: 34 Date: 1998-01-20 09:51 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Robert van der Veeke" > To: > Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:50:53 +0100 ---------- > > Nev Young wrote: > > > Hi, > Mmmmh why do I get this one before the original mail, oh no wonder, it is > being posted un tuesday the 20th while at my place it is still the 19th. Or > is my mailserver screwing up again? Something is screwed as it took over 29 hours for the message to get from my house to Liverpool ;( > 13th-15th of mar, I don't I have anything planned for that weekend, > probably I could drag Martijn into my car and take a little drive to > Amsterdam (which means no drinking on my part). Have to make Martijn drink doubles then :-) > Ja ne Yippie - a sensible answer I'll add you to the party mail group - ok. Some of the _others_ havn't even booked their flights yet. But The party is starting to firm up. Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 11:34:02 1998 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:23:58 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Any one for a party ? Message-Id: <19980120112428Z49957-29158+943@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 594 Lines: 24 Date: 1998-01-20 09:51 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:45:13 -0800 > From: "David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine]" > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? > > Nev Young wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm going to be in Amsterdam (13th-15th Mar) and wondered if any one > > would like to join me for a drink/meal/piss up. > Love to] > Err... you don't expect me to pay my own fare do you ? :) Well that was the general idea. The others who are going are ;-) Nev From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 11:34:02 1998 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:24:00 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Any one for a party ? Message-Id: <19980120112428Z49966-29158+945@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 677 Lines: 25 Date: 1998-01-20 09:52 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:40:46 -0800 > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > From: Simon Cooke > Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? > >I'm going to be in Amsterdam (13th-15th Mar) and wondered if any one > >would like to join me for a drink/meal/piss up. > Ah... you must be one of the cultural bunch -- you didn't add "smoke" to > the end of that list. > Unless you're eating hash brownies ;) The advert says "hempburgers" sounds a bit stringy to me ;-) > Si Yes Si. I am one of the kultureul bunch. Nev - who doesn't smoke (anything). From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 12:38:14 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:21:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <623f5db1.34c3c3a9@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 223 Lines: 12 On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, BrenchleyR wrote: > In a message dated 15/01/98 22:40:48, you write: > > > > > Why? Maybe it's just because your SAM's NOT VERY GOOD. > > > > > > KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL...... > Tee hee hee! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 12:38:15 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:26:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 558 Lines: 16 On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, BrenchleyR wrote: > In a message dated 14/01/98 20:53:25, you write: > > > > > Hmm. Maybe that's because there isn't a great deal that can be said about > > an obscure, 8-year old, thrice-flopped 8bit computer, other than that we > > were all conned when we bought it, should have hung on to our Speccies > > for another year or two, then saved up for PCs. Whoops!!! > > > > > > > KILL, KILL, KILL....... > So good to know that we've still got the capacity for in-depth, well-argued discussion and exchange of views >:o> From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 12:38:16 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:29:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr M A Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980119192734.006c7664@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 381 Lines: 10 On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Simon Cooke wrote: > >>> > We owe anyone nothing. All our records are up to date. It's a real > >>shame > > Looking at it for a second glance, it's completely grammatically incorrect, > isn't it? I mean "We owe anyone nothing". Pshaw ;) What about "Looking at it for a second glance", then? Just about acceptable grammatically, but unforgivably clumsy! From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 15:08:43 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980120094513.006c37a0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:45:13 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? In-Reply-To: <19980120112428Z49966-29158+945@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 208 Lines: 10 At 06:24 AM 1/20/98 EST, you wrote: >Yes Si. I am one of the kultureul bunch. > >Nev - who doesn't smoke (anything). Me neither! I've not had a cig since Friday! Waheyyyyyyy!!!! Bring on the willpower! Si From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 15:46:53 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:49:54 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? In-Reply-To: <19980120112428Z49954-29158+944@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 854 Lines: 25 In message <19980120112428Z49954-29158+944@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no>, "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" writes >Some of the _others_ havn't even booked their flights yet. >But The party is starting to firm up. sono bin wa nanji ni tachimasu ka Oh, and more to the point, kore wa ikura desu ka :) Bugger, I haven't got a passport... And I sooo wanting to smuggle diamonds and porn... Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 15:46:54 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:40:13 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <199801201113.LAA07827@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 720 Lines: 19 In message <199801201113.LAA07827@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Ian Collier writes >On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:20:18 EST, BrenchleyR said for the second time: >> KILL, KILL, KILL....... > >Why does mail from some people always arrive twice? No idea. Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 15:46:54 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:40:35 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: <199801201113.LAA07827@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 738 Lines: 21 In message <199801201113.LAA07827@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Ian Collier writes >On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:20:18 EST, BrenchleyR said for the second time: >> KILL, KILL, KILL....... > >Why does mail from some people always arrive twice? No idea. (Woah! Deja Vu!) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 15:46:55 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:36:25 +0000 To: Sam Users From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Read This And Swear! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2815 Lines: 58 I told Wayne about the evil Darren's idea, and here's a answer his wished me to post. ------- Forwarded message follows ------- A tired programmer replies to Darren Wileman... Hello everyone, I think It`s time I let everyone know about Kaboom! The game has been finished for months now, the only pnding work is the copy protection. The reason it is taing so long is the incredible amount of work I have. At work we have had visits every couple of weeks from companies like Sega, Psygnosis, Electronic Art, Midway, GT Interactive, Gremlin, Eidos... The list goes on. And every time the game our team is working on has to have progressed a certain distance. Which means late nights and even working on weekends (I don`t get paid overtime!). As for threatening posting my address I`ll do it myself.... Wayne Coles 16 BlackFriars Court Newcastle Upon Tyne NE1 4XB e-mail me at home with Wayne@wayne4.demon.co.uk, I`ll even provide you with my phone number if you ask (or phone you up). Those who have ordered and paid for Kaboom! Let me know and I will send you the finished version as soon as its finished (no extra charge), and claim your other piece of software from Darren (I won`t tell him you have it). And Darren? 400? What are you moaning for, the latest issue of Fred was about 4 months late so its your own fault for not making a profit. Go away, if you couldn`t afford it, you shouldn`t have paid in the first place. Colin Macdonald provided an excellent service and you`ve damaged his product. Go on, fuck off.... Yep I`m angry, not for myself as I`m not entirely blameless. But for the SAM community who are friendly and the only reason I wrote Kaboom was I thought they deserved another professional quality game for their machine which they have spent their time, money and love. If you didn`t buy Kaboom! but would like it, Let me know and I`ll provide it for about 5, don`t pay now, wait till its finished (which "should" be soon). But let me know, OK. I`m only charging 5 to pay for the disks (it comes on 2), postage and so I can give the graphic artist, musician and Colin Macdonald some money. I don`t want anything, I`m being payed enough :-) Kaboom! was a gift from me to you. Thanks for listening.... Wayne Coles Programmer Reflections -----------------------END----------------------- Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 15:46:55 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:39:03 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? In-Reply-To: <199801201004.KAA05844@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 734 Lines: 19 In message <199801201004.KAA05844@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk>, Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> writes >> Unless you're eating hash brownies ;) > >or drinking hash beer? just a thought. would probably never be >marketable. It'd probably be marketed like Red Bull, only in reverse. Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 15:46:56 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:39:53 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? In-Reply-To: <199801201112.LAA07815@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1142 Lines: 26 In message <199801201112.LAA07815@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Ian Collier writes >On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:50:53 +0100, Robert van der Veeke said: >> > Van: David-Editor of Blitz Fanzine! >> > Datum: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 6:45 > >> Mmmmh why do I get this one before the original mail, oh no wonder, it is >> being posted un tuesday the 20th while at my place it is still the 19th. Or >> is my mailserver screwing up again? > >No, it's another person using Netscape Mail who hasn't set the right >timezone. Seems to happen a lot nowadays. Hint David: put >SET TZ=GMT0BST in your autoexec.bat. No, Dave, don't. It'll drive Ian mad!!! ;) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 15:46:56 1998 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:31:48 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Any one for a party ? Message-Id: <19980120153211Z50027-29158+1046@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 600 Lines: 26 Date: 1998-01-20 15:29 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:45:13 -0800 > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > From: Simon Cooke > Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? > At 06:24 AM 1/20/98 EST, you wrote: > >Yes Si. I am one of the kultureul bunch. > > > >Nev - who doesn't smoke (anything). > Me neither] I've not had a cig since Friday] Waheyyyyyyy]]]] > Bring on the willpower] Big deal I've not had a cig since 1962. April IIRC. and to keep it relevant:- And my Sam doesn't smoke either Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 15:57:43 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? References: <19980120153211Z50027-29158+1046@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware X-{giggle}: Lots! From: The Giggler Date: 20 Jan 1998 15:51:26 +0000 In-Reply-To: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life"'s message of "Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:31:48 EST" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 495 Lines: 22 "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" writes: > > Me neither] I've not had a cig since Friday] Waheyyyyyyy]]]] > > Bring on the willpower] > > Big deal I've not had a cig since 1962. > April IIRC. Well just to a) Go one better and b) Prove I'm still alive ... I've never had one ... > and to keep it relevant:- > And my Sam doesn't smoke either Mine does after several hours of tetris but then again that's probably understandable ;) Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 16:29:29 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <00256592.00586B13.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:22:12 +0000 Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 248 Lines: 13 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and to keep it relevant:- And my Sam doesn't smoke either <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Nor does mine. The only annoying habit it has got is an irritating buzzzzz from the transformer unit. (which is fixed by giving it a kick!) Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 16:35:13 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 20 Jan 98 16:24:20 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Format and their selective Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 945 Lines: 35 In E-Mail <199801191155_MC2-2FE2-F123@compuserve.com D Wileman wrote:- > >I took on fred before i got a promotion at work which means i work >different hours - hence, i don't have time to call people, as for Kaboom, >I will publish Wayne's Address here tomorrow - people can take it up >with him- not me. > [snip] >Everyone who ordered Kaboom can have another item free. > Oh, alright then, thanks. I'll have one of your 3.8GB Hard Discs that you mention in issue 80 then. Cheers. > > >darren > >i have better things to do with my life than argue about this sort of >crap. Luv Stewart. -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 16:35:14 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Tue, 20 Jan 98 16:16:09 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Hello? Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 814 Lines: 32 On Tue 20 Jan 98 (14:40:35 +0000), graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk wrote: >In message <199801201113.LAA07827@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Ian Collier > writes >>On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:20:18 EST, BrenchleyR said for the second >time: >>> KILL, KILL, KILL....... >> >>Why does mail from some people always arrive twice? > >No idea. > >(Woah! Deja Vu!) > >Graham >== Is it because you are still sending to nvg.unit.no and not ntnu like the address is now? Just a thought. Stew/ -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 16:53:57 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <543a803e.34c4d386@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:40:36 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 242 Lines: 12 In a message dated 19/01/98 21:57:37, you write: > > Hi, > > I'm going to be in Amsterdam (13th-15th Mar) and wondered if any one > would like to join me for a drink/meal/piss up. > Yes, but only if you pay for the trip :) -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 17:02:00 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <4f3040be.34c4d391@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:40:42 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 239 Lines: 13 In a message dated 20/01/98 01:24:37, you write: > > Um, what IS the position RE: Kaboom? Whose fault is it? > > Graham Well, in the main, the programmer's. Remember also that this goes back long before Darren took over. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 17:02:01 1998 From: BrenchleyR Message-ID: <40e882be.34c4d390@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:40:46 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 3843 Lines: 74 In a message dated 20/01/98 01:09:36, you write: > > Not that I want to stir things up, but just an observation.... If I > remember rightly, this thread started with an interesting comparison > between Fred (who's software has been delayed through no fault of the > owner, and has received full support from Format magazine) and Persona (who > AFAIK are up to date with orders, and yet have received bad press and abuse > from Format because another company [Phoenix] had software delayed through > no fault of the owner). I have yet to hear a satisfactory explanation for > this attitude, whether or not you still think it. The difference is, in my opinion, very simple. David Ledbury [let us not get confused with company names here] has an appalling record in his business activities. Persona, which still clearly involves David Ledbury, therefore started from a position where it has to prove itself. One of the things about editing a magazine is that I get the final say in publicity - it is one of the few powers an editor does have. I make no bones about my dislike of David Ledbury. There are things that he has done for which I am not yet ready to forgive let alone forget - and NO, I will not be drawn into giving details: he knows, I know, that is all that matters. I have no complaint against Malcome, only against David Ledbury. At a past Gloucester show I even allowed Persona to share a stand with someone - on the understanding that David Ledbury was not to be there. Despite that, he was. That I took as a personal insult to me and to the rest of the SAM community. I have since made it quite clear that I will accept adverts from Persona at standard rates, rates which anyone can request at any time. On the other hand we have FRED. One of the longest running and most successful companies in the SAM field. A company with a top rate reputation. Darren may have had little or no reputation in his own right but at least what reputation he had was good enough for Colin to allow the hand-over of FRED (and I would trust Colin's decision over many other peoples). Just at the moment it would appear that FRED are having a few problems. I have had some phone calls about the magazine (disc) not appearing and a couple of calls about Kaboom, I have not received a single call about any other software. The problem with Kaboom is well know, it have been discused here before. I don't know why the issues of FRED have longer gaps between them than they used to - it is none of my business, if Darren needed any help he knows that all he need to do is ask. > > I am not saying (and never have said) that Fred should be denied publicity, > or that you should start making personal insults about Colin (previous > owner) or Darren. Rather, that you should not deny Persona their publicity, Nobody has the right to publicity you know. > and that apologies should be made for the past comments about David > (similarly previous owner) and Malcolm. Why, I own neither an apology. >Did you ever tell that guy where to > buy the Midi Sequencer? That, I have to say, I really don't know. If someone rings me and asks "where can I get it" then I would tell them, having first made sure that they understand a little about David Ledbury's past. If they then want to order it that is up to them. However, in print, where I do not have the benefit of being able to put questions to the potential purchaser, I will still refrain from printing details as long as David Ledbury is involved in the company. If they want to advertise it in FORMAT then they are at liberty to do so - under those circumstances I would not be responsible if someone placed an order - it would be a plain commercial advert and that would be the end of it. I hope this lays this matter to rest again (for at least a few months). -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 17:04:02 1998 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:01:47 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Any one for a party ? Message-Id: <19980120170249Z50064-29158+1086@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 397 Lines: 18 Date: 1998-01-20 16:59 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:49:54 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring > Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? > sono bin wa nanji ni tachimasu ka > Oh, and more to the point, kore wa ikura desu ka Erm errr dozo wakaramasen Nev san From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 17:19:50 1998 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:13:40 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Any one for a party ? Message-Id: <19980120171407Z49309-29158+1088@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 634 Lines: 24 Date: 1998-01-20 17:11 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: BrenchleyR Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:40:36 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? > In a message dated 19/01/98 21:57:37, you write: > > I'm going to be in Amsterdam (13th-15th Mar) and wondered if any one > > would like to join me for a drink/meal/piss up. > > > Yes, but only if you pay for the trip :) > -- > Bob. and now Bob even makes the same jokes as Dave. J'accuse Dave and Bob are the same person and _that_ is why you never see them together ;-) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 17:49:17 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980120121940.006c7fd8@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:19:40 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? In-Reply-To: <00256592.00586B13.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 529 Lines: 22 At 04:22 PM 1/20/98 +0000, you wrote: >Status: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >and to keep it relevant:- >And my Sam doesn't smoke either ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > >Nor does mine. >The only annoying habit it has got is an irritating >buzzzzz from the transformer unit. (which is fixed by >giving it a kick!) Ummm... you might want to alternatively: Tighten up the brass screw that keeps the transformer block in place :) Or possibly check the smoothing capacitors and the electrolytics; when they start going they can buzz a bit. Si From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 17:49:17 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980120122641.006c42ac@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:26:41 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-Reply-To: <40e882be.34c4d390@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1224 Lines: 29 At 11:40 AM 1/20/98 EST, you wrote: >prove itself. One of the things about editing a magazine is that I get the >final say in publicity - it is one of the few powers an editor does have. Actually... I think you'll find that in the real world, it's one of the few powers a publisher has, not an editor. >>Did you ever tell that guy where to >> buy the Midi Sequencer? > >That, I have to say, I really don't know. If someone rings me and asks "where >can I get it" then I would tell them, having first made sure that they >understand a little about David Ledbury's past. If they then want to order it Woah there; for fucks sake Bob, let bygones be bygones. Or should I start going on about Prince of Persia and non-payment of royalties owed to the programmer? Dave does *NOT* handle the orders. He doesn't even post the stuff. He doesn't even buy the stamps. No matter what he's done in the past, he is not in a position where he can affect the product delivery process in any way. Short of stabbing Malcolm with a Ginsu knife. The SAM world is rapidly shrinking. It's dying. It's about time to bury the hatchet and hold strong together, because otherwise, there won't be any customers left to sell anything to. Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 17:49:19 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:41:10 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd25ca$985e99c0$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1965 Lines: 40 -----Original Message----- From: BrenchleyR You fool. You stupid fool, just what have you done. Don't you know you are unpopular enough as it is? Don't you realise that whatever problems Dave had in the past with Phoenix, these have all been 100% cleared up, and he has gone to great lengths to ensure everyone got what was owed to them. I have yet to hear a SINGLE complaint or bad comment about Persona. Everyone from all sections of the SAM community, (even Darren!) have said how much they admire and appreciate Persona. You seem to think you can walk over people Bob, well you bloody well can't and I'm sick of your 'holier than thou' attitude to some people. Persona are a highly reputable company, who have shown great commitment to the SAM. You on the other hand, seem to be the one with the poor reputation - I have yet to order a single thing from you that you managed to deliver within two or months. And as for the SAM_Clock - as I said before to Darren, I appreciate that products get delayed, but when I decide to query where my money has been for OVER A YEAR, I would like a reply! I've asked continually where the thing is, all you could have done was explain the problems to me, and I would have been happy - but did you bother? (And we both know why you didn't bother). Again - I want my money back, and if I don't get it back my next option is the small claims court. >I hope this lays this matter to rest again (for at least a few months). >-- >Bob. If this wasn't such a stupid statement, it would almost be funny - you know fine well there is going to be a flood of mails on this subject now - haven't you learnt your lesson? ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 17:49:19 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980120122802.00689dc0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:28:02 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Any one for a party ? In-Reply-To: <19980120170249Z50064-29158+1086@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 87 Lines: 7 At 12:01 PM 1/20/98 EST, you wrote: >Erm errr dozo >wakaramasen Timmy Mallett? Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 17:55:09 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <40e882be.34c4d390@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:50:04 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id RAA17209 Status: RO Content-Length: 3469 Lines: 66 At 4:40 pm +0000 20/1/98, BrenchleyR wrote: >> Not that I want to stir things up, but just an observation.... If I >> remember rightly, this thread started with an interesting comparison >> between Fred (who's software has been delayed through no fault of the >> owner, and has received full support from Format magazine) and Persona (who >> AFAIK are up to date with orders, and yet have received bad press and abuse >> from Format because another company [Phoenix] had software delayed through >> no fault of the owner). I have yet to hear a satisfactory explanation for >> this attitude, whether or not you still think it. > >The difference is, in my opinion, very simple. > >David Ledbury [let us not get confused with company names here] has an >appalling record in his business activities. Persona, which still clearly >involves David Ledbury, therefore started from a position where it has to >prove itself. One of the things about editing a magazine is that I get the >final say in publicity - it is one of the few powers an editor does have. So basically it's personal then. This "appalling record in his business activities" probably means some delayed software and late magazines. Hmmm, this doesn't sound familiar honest. Speaking as someone who has heard David's side of at least one story, I think you'd both be better off putting your past behind you. For the sake of the Sam market - such as it is nowadays - can people *please* start working together for a change? At this rate, the Sam will be remembered as a little computer who's nasty, vengeful owners spent so much time bickering that nothing ever got done to save it. I don't think that's true - we all know each other well enough that most people on this list can be friends. Bob: Can't you get it into your head that nobody has a complaint against the service Persona offers? If you feel it necessary to make "sure they understand a little about David Ledbury's past", do you also feel it necessary to point out that HE DOESN'T RUN PERSONA? He doesn't deal with orders. He can't delay the sending out of released software. He edits the disk magazine. Your refusal to print details of Persona on the grounds of David's "involvement with the company" is juvenile, bigoted, personal, irrelavent to the commercial matter in hand, and above all completely unnecessary. That mailing says more about your character than anything else you've written on this list for a very long time. You are one of the most narrow-minded, inflexible, self-opinionated morons it has ever been my misfortune to encounter, and more than anything else it has been your attitude which has gradually eroded my faith in the Sam over the last eighteen months you have been subscribed to this list. I hope I make myself clear. Andrew PS. I wonder how David managed to get to Gloucester that year? Surely no-one in their right mind would have given David a lift, knowing that the wrath of Bob would be on them should he ever find out. --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 19:04:06 1998 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:59:59 EST From: "YOUNG, Neville / IT Life" To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Format and their selective publicity policy... Message-Id: <19980120190019Z50102-29158+1145@sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 707 Lines: 33 Date: 1998-01-20 18:55 Priority: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: BrenchleyR Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:40:46 EST > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... > In a message dated 20/01/98 01:09:36, you write: > > > > Not that I want to stir things up, but just an observation.... If I . . . . . . > > remember rightly, this thread started with an interesting comparison > would be a plain commercial advert and that would be the end of it. > I hope this lays this matter to rest again (for at least a few months). > -- > Bob. DAMMIT IT WAS JUST A DREAM ;((((((((( Nev. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 19:47:59 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:05:57 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1159 Lines: 34 In message , Stewart Skardon writes >On Tue 20 Jan 98 (14:40:35 +0000), graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk wrote: >>In message <199801201113.LAA07827@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Ian Collier >> writes >>>On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:20:18 EST, BrenchleyR said for the second >>time: >>>> KILL, KILL, KILL....... >>> >>>Why does mail from some people always arrive twice? >> >>No idea. >> >>(Woah! Deja Vu!) >> >>Graham >>== > >Is it because you are still sending to nvg.unit.no and not ntnu like the >address is now? Just a thought. Eep! Mine isn't an offending address, it's other people who seem to have an evil doppleganger. Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 21:23:00 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ILGW @ C&L NL @ C&L INT @ C&L INT EXTERNAL@INTERLIANT @ OUTBOUND From: Stefan Drissen To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Message-ID: <86256592.007483AC.00@internet-503.interliant.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:09:06 +0100 Subject: Re: SAM with Quazar SurroundSound Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1620 Lines: 40 A VERY simple solution is to simply connect the Quazar output to the audio out of the SAM (the "lightpen" socket). The audio out isn't buffered (or whatever you want to call it) so any signals put onto it are spread all over the system. Resulting in the Quazar sound coming out through your telly as well. You'd want to add a throughport or something so that you could also hook all your SAM sound (including soundchip) to a pair of speakers. This is the way the SAMdac does it - but then that doesn't have the option of using the expansion bus since it connects to the parallel printer port. By the way Robert - have you got any dates for Houten? (cue everybody to take this remark the wrong way). -- **************************************** This document should only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed and is not intended to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of its contents. 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Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. **************************************** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 21:52:26 1998 Message-ID: <19980120214419.8141.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.20.14] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: SAM with Quazar SurroundSound Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:44:05 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1289 Lines: 27 "Stefan Drissen" said:x >A VERY simple solution is to simply connect the Quazar output to the >audio out of the SAM (the "lightpen" socket). The audio out isn't >buffered (or whatever you want to call it) so any signals put onto it > are spread all over the system. Resulting in the Quazar sound > coming out through your telly as well. . The reason I did not mix the sound chip into the audio outputs of the Quazar Surround is to eliminate any unwanted noise... and as you'll know the Sam generates a lot of machine noise on both the UHF output and the stereo lines on the various connectors. Colin P. __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ /_ / / /_/ / / //_ /_//_//_ / /_ : Fast Mode 4 __/ / / / / / /_/__// / //_ / /_ : 3d Vector Action! +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | COLIN PIGGOT | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | QUAZAR: Hardware and | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | Software for the Sam | | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 22:37:45 1998 From: Martin Rookyard To: SAM Users Mailing List Subject: Glass Houses... Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:22:53 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1223 Lines: 27 I have been reading this little discussion a while... As I see it: Mr brenchly has been telling third parties that Persona is a poor company to deal with simply because the proprietor happens to count Dave Ledbury as one of his friends. IMHO I would say that this is verging on slander unless he has some hard evidence that would stand up in court. Yes Dave may have 'had his problems' and these have been well documented; but to then tar Persona with the same brush in public is, me thinks, a tad dangerous. I personally have in my opinion been told some untruths by a certain prominent player in the SAM world and this has cost me a potentially substantial sum in lost revenue. I am saying nothing more due to lack of corroboration.... On another point: I once responded to a request for a SAM hardware design. I sent off the prototype for evaluation complete with two copies of a contract to be completed if the design was accepted... and heard nothing for several months. I then phoned, and was told it was too expensive ("rubbish" in my opinion) and asked for the prototype and contracts to be returned. This was at least three years ago and I am still waiting. Maybe I should have sent an SAE ? Martin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 22:37:47 1998 From: Martin Rookyard To: SAM Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:27:45 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 268 Lines: 13 Hmm, how things change. Who'd have thought a couple of years back that the day would come when Simon Cooke and Andrew Collier were actually in agreement about something (other than the fact that they each wanted to kill the other) Keep it up guys ]:-> Maria From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 23:17:39 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:01:01 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no, SAM Users Mailing List From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id XAA22365 Status: RO Content-Length: 1737 Lines: 39 At 10:27 pm +0000 20/1/98, Martin Rookyard wrote: >Hmm, how things change. Who'd have thought a couple of years back that the >day would come when Simon Cooke and Andrew Collier were actually in >agreement about something (other than the fact that they each wanted to >kill the other) Keep it up guys ]:-> > > >Maria To be honest I think you'd have to go back more than a couple of years to find a time when that wasn't true anyway. Forming MNEMOtech was a good move, I think, since it gave me something constructive to do rather than sulk about not being in Entropy. Since then, there's never been any more than lighthearted rivalry - certainly for the past two years on this list we've generally been on the same side. I've said this before, but the Sam is alive mostly because the majority of it's users are good friends. It's the people that draw each other to the Gloucester shows - not the software or hardware sales (which must be why we spend so much time in the pub...) I've counted Simon - and others, of course - as friends for some years, and (as someone else said) even after the Sam has died and gone to heaven, I expect we'll still be here chatting on this list and decending on Quedgely at regular intervals. Thank God for MGT. Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+dre From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 23:17:39 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:08:15 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no, SAM Users Mailing List From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Glass Houses... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id XAA22371 Status: RO Content-Length: 1036 Lines: 29 At 10:22 pm +0000 20/1/98, Martin Rookyard wrote: >IMHO I would say that this is verging on slander unless he has some hard >evidence that would stand up in court. Yes Dave may have 'had his >problems' and these have been well documented; but to then tar Persona with >the same brush in public is, me thinks, a tad dangerous. Wouldn't it be *fun* to sue Bob Brenchley! Perhaps I could get compensation for the mental torment I am suffering as a result of his degrading my memory of the sam-users list as a friendly place to be. Just a thought. Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+w From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 23:26:31 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980120180248.006caa14@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:02:48 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 600 Lines: 21 > Hmm, how things change. Who'd have thought a couple of years back that the > day would come when Simon Cooke and Andrew Collier were actually in > agreement about something (other than the fact that they each wanted to > kill the other) Keep it up guys ]:-> > > > Maria : To be honest I think you'd have to go back more than a couple of years to : find a time when that wasn't true anyway. On the phone with Maria... she says... "Well, Ok, so it's more than two years... I'm 33 on Friday... when you get to my age you're greatful that it's only your memory that's gone. ;)" *grins* Cookie From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Jan 20 23:34:53 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:29:48 +0000 To: "Sam users' mailing list" From: Andrew Collier Subject: What's going on? X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id XAA22845 Status: RO Content-Length: 587 Lines: 14 Now I quite definitely sent those two messages exactly once each. And this one once too (just in case). Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 21 01:31:59 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199801191155_MC2-2FE2-F123@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:26:57 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Format and their selective pub X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id BAA00343 Status: RO Content-Length: 822 Lines: 23 At 4:54 pm +0000 19/1/98, D Wileman wrote: >anyone got £400 to spare eh? I'm not putting another penny into FRED Quick calculation: If 30 people (a not unreasonable figure, I guess) have paid £15 (I can't remember the exact price, it's so long ago) then that's a cool total of £450. I won't be putting another penny into FRED either. Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 21 06:19:53 1998 Message-Id: <199801210613.HAA03907@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:12:52 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 663 Lines: 25 > Van: Simon Cooke > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Format and their selective publicity > Datum: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 3:02 > "Well, Ok, so it's more than two years... I'm 33 on Friday... when you get > to my age you're greatful that it's only your memory that's gone. ;)" > > *grins* > > Cookie So what, i will be 34 in August, errr..... what? -- For Stefan -- I don't have any dates yet, but I will see Theo Molenaar next week so I will ask him If he has have any dates left for us. Ja ne -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] The borderline Express will terminate at this station :) From imc Wed Jan 21 10:31:19 1998 Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:31:19 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Jan 20, 98 11:01:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 162 Lines: 10 On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:01:01 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no, SAM Users Mailing List What? > it's Aargh! imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 21 10:47:01 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <40e882be.34c4d390@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:32:50 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id KAA08201 Status: RO Content-Length: 1912 Lines: 54 At 4:40 pm +0000 20/1/98, BrenchleyR wrote: >I have since made it quite clear that I will accept adverts from Persona at >standard rates, rates which anyone can request at any time. Bowing under significant pressure from this list, of course. > >Nobody has the right to publicity you know. > They have the right to not be blatantly lied about. >> and that apologies should be made for the past comments about David >> (similarly previous owner) and Malcolm. > >Why, I own neither an apology. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA That's a good one. This guy should go into stand-up comedy. I can't stop myself from laughing at everything he says. >I hope this lays this matter to rest again (for at least a few months). Why do you persist in your stupid belief that people will unquestioningly accept a single word you say? You're not God. You're only Bob, which is about as far wide of the mark as I can imagine. Andrew PS: Well at least the postings should stay interesting for the next few days.... PPS: I *like* flames! PPPS: Hell, might as well go public, _I_ gave David a lift to that Gloucester show. So what are you going to do about it Bob? Eh? Ban me from the next one? --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ne? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 21 11:02:04 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199801211031.KAA14028@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: from "Andrew Collier" at Jan 20, 98 11:01:01 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:50:13 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id LAA08541 Status: RO Content-Length: 787 Lines: 22 At 10:31 am +0000 21/1/98, Ian Collier wrote: >On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:01:01 +0000, Andrew Collier said: >> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no, SAM Users Mailing List > >What? Oh, whoops. Sorry about that. I've no idea how that managed to happen - I only replied to the earlier message. Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From imc Wed Jan 21 11:13:15 1998 Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:13:15 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Jan 21, 98 10:32:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 191 Lines: 7 On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:32:50 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > PPPS: Hell, might as well go public, _I_ gave David a lift to that > Gloucester show. You drove him personally, did you? :-) imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 21 11:19:43 1998 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:00:26 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 733 Lines: 20 In message , Andrew Collier writes >PPPS: Hell, might as well go public, _I_ gave David a lift to that >Gloucester show. So what are you going to do about it Bob? Eh? Ban me from >the next one? Go on, Bob. Pleeeeze? ;) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Jan 21 11:59:16 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:46:47 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Hello? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <1B2A910D2D@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 662 Lines: 18 Happy New Year to y'arl... > >>Hmm. Maybe that's because there isn't a great deal that can be said about > >>an obscure, 8-year old, thrice-flopped 8bit computer, other than that we > >>were all conned when we bought it, should have hung on to our Speccies > >>for another year or two, then saved up for PCs. Whoops!!! > > > When I went to buy my Sam back in 1990, the female shop assistant who was showing me about the machine giggled at me when I asked about the machines prospects. I now realise that she was Mystic Meg. Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..."