From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 01:32:25 1998 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 01:03:48 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: SIM Coupe - wish list. In-Reply-To: <34D35314.3A8F@csv.warwick.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1320 Lines: 34 In message <34D35314.3A8F@csv.warwick.ac.uk>, Mark Sturdy writes >Stewart Skardon wrote: >> >> On Sat 31 Jan 98 (13:09:31 +0000), Mark Sturdy's ex-friend wrote: >> >YOUR WEBSITE SUCKS, FUCK OFF AND DIE >> >- >> >> It would appear that this message was intended for me. >> Having now looked at the header for the message copied below, I see that it >was >> in response to message E0xyahq-0004O8-00@golden.argonet.co.uk. >> >> Seeing as I am the only person on this list at Argonet, I would assume that we >> can safely say it was for me. >> >> Can't see what I've done to deserve it though. > >You haven't done anything to deserve it, Stewart. I didn't write it, it >was Jonathan "Random Abuse Directed At Innocent Parties On My Email >Account While My Back Is Turned" Morris. I guess pretending to be animals finally got to him... Graham ;) -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 11:38:45 1998 From: BillRitman@aol.com Message-ID: <14f0d65.34d45d9a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 06:33:44 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: FORMATs news - was Re: Format and Crashed Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.i for Windows sub 178 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 654 Lines: 26 In a message dated 31/01/98 18:19:42, you write: > > >In a message dated 30/01/98 23:50:43, you write: > > > >>>Sorry, what was the question again? > >> > >>Don't do it Mark -- he's BOB! > >> > >>Simon > > > >Having a bad dream Simon? > > > >-- > >Bob. > > No Bob, he wasn't, you know exactly what he was talking about - kindly stop > taking us for fools. And hey, while I'm telling you off, for God's sake, > stop talking about the year 2000! We don't agree with you, get over it! > > Gavin Question. If you lot are passing some substance around that I am missing out on then please post the formula as soon as possible. Bill. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 14:06:16 1998 Message-ID: <19980201135957.21267.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [195.8.80.151] From: Michael Edwards To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: were do i get a power suply? Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 05:59:55 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 215 Lines: 11 hello i've just got a used coupe but the power suppy is nackered. does anyone still mkae them? Mike ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 14:40:00 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 1 Feb 98 14:34:12 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 696 Lines: 30 On Sun 1 Feb 98 (05:59:55), mike_edwards18@hotmail.com wrote: >hello > >i've just got a used coupe but the power suppy is nackered. > >does anyone still mkae them? > >Mike > Try West Coast Computers, Email Formatpub@aol.com. I think they cost about 24UKP new. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 14:54:03 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 14:47:29 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id OAA22925 Status: RO Content-Length: 928 Lines: 31 At 2:34 pm +0000 1/2/98, Stewart Skardon wrote: >>i've just got a used coupe but the power suppy is nackered. >> >>does anyone still mkae them? >> >>Mike >> > >Try West Coast Computers, Email Formatpub@aol.com. >I think they cost about 24UKP new. Or alternatively, try Greenweld - 01703 236363 - who were selling Sam power supplies for about £5 last time I checked. They're not guaranteed though. You pay your money, you take your choice. Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 16:47:57 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Sun, 1 Feb 98 16:45:09 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Sim Coupe compatiability Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 492 Lines: 19 Has anyone on the list had any sucess in getting SAM Juggler demo to run on SimCoupe. It hangs up on my machine at the main part. I.e when SAM is supposed to juggle. Stewart -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 17:42:43 1998 Message-ID: <19980201173741.14627.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [195.8.75.209] From: Michael Edwards To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 09:37:39 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 455 Lines: 17 ----Original Message Follows---- From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 1 Feb 98 14:34:12 Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Try West Coast Computers, Email Formatpub@aol.com. I think they cost about 24UKP new. what! are they made from gold or somthing? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 17:52:10 1998 Message-ID: <19980201174604.8407.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [195.8.75.209] From: Michael Edwards To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 09:45:53 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 831 Lines: 37 ----Original Message Follows---- Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 14:47:29 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no At 2:34 pm +0000 1/2/98, Stewart Skardon wrote: >>i've just got a used coupe but the power suppy is nackered. >> >>does anyone still mkae them? >> >>Mike >> > >Try West Coast Computers, Email Formatpub@aol.com. >I think they cost about 24UKP new. Or alternatively, try Greenweld - 01703 236363 - who were selling Sam p= ower supplies for about =A35 last time I checked. They're not guaranteed tho= ugh. You pay your money, you take your choice. Andrew --- thanks. how come they are 20 pounds cheaper? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 20:01:39 1998 From: BillRitman@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 14:56:32 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.i for Windows sub 178 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 333 Lines: 14 In a message dated 01/02/98 14:26:02, you write: > hello > > i've just got a used coupe but the power suppy is nackered. > > does anyone still mkae them? > > Mike > May I ask what is wrong with it? Both mine failed on the 12 volt side and I had them repaired by a mate. IIRC it was only one bit needed replacing. Bill. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 20:39:45 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19980201174604.8407.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 20:32:34 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id UAA26161 Status: RO Content-Length: 1637 Lines: 40 At 5:45 pm +0000 1/2/98, Michael Edwards wrote: >>You pay your money, you take your choice. >thanks. how come they are 20 pounds cheaper? As far as I know they're SamCo's old stock. Greenweld are probably selling them cheap because nobody was buying them at a higher price - the PSUs will have been hanging around in their warehouse for quite a while now. Bob would tell you that the PSUs are untested, and that some of the voltage outputs will be incorrect. However, my current power supply is from Greenweld and I've had no problems with it [1] also there are a few others on this list who have had no trouble with Greenweld stock. If you buy from them, it might just be worth checking that the lines give the correct voltages - if you feed too much in the wrong place you could possibly damage your Sam, which would be more expensive than the twenty pounds you've saved by not buying from Bob in the first place. Andrew [1] The voltages were all totally correct, but I did have to retune the UHF circuit slightly to get a clear picture. This is not a difficult job, and if you use SCART for video output then the problem won't affect you anyway. --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ a From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 21:12:16 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 21:04:00 GMT Message-ID: <34d4df1e.25583910@mail.enterprise.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1126 Lines: 32 On Sun, 1 Feb 98 16:45:09, you wrote: >Has anyone on the list had any sucess in getting SAM Juggler demo to run on >SimCoupe. > >It hangs up on my machine at the main part. I.e when SAM is supposed to juggle. Tried and failed to find it. I'll have another look later though. However, while I was looking, I came across the 'SAM Amateur Programming and Electronics' issues again. This follows on from a thread last year, when Shane Smith declared all his old SAM magazines as PD. Anyway, I have issues 2-6, and I was wondering if anyone had issue 1, or issue 7 (if there was a 7)? I've made 2-6 into a Zip file squashed down to 800484 bytes, and if I can get hold of the other issues, I'll stick the lot on the web space, or upload to NVG. They run okay on SIM Coupe, and anyone who claims to be a SAM fan should have them. So who has issues 1 & 7? [Phil Glover- did you have either of these?] I also found 'Softrix' issues 1 & 2, but I think Persona might have a claim on these? It's all a bit bit daft really though, IMO - when issues of really old magazines still have commercial price tags. Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 21:25:49 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34d4df1e.25583910@mail.enterprise.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:20:14 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id VAA26671 Status: RO Content-Length: 780 Lines: 22 At 9:04 pm +0000 1/2/98, Dave wrote: >claim on these? It's all a bit bit daft really though, IMO - when >issues of really old magazines still have commercial price tags. Pay you 95p for Crash issue 1? ie. because some really old magazines sell for significantly _more_ than the cover price... Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 21:33:45 1998 Message-ID: <19980201212743.21263.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [195.8.78.179] From: Michael Edwards To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 13:27:38 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 758 Lines: 35 ----Original Message Follows---- From: BillRitman@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 14:56:32 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no In a message dated 01/02/98 14:26:02, you write: > hello > > i've just got a used coupe but the power suppy is nackered. > > does anyone still mkae them? > > Mike > May I ask what is wrong with it? Both mine failed on the 12 volt side and I had them repaired by a mate. IIRC it was only one bit needed replacing. Bill. ----- I dont know. It was broke so i threw it. why so much? it looks just like the old one from my amstrad! Mike ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 22:03:03 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 21:53:53 GMT Message-ID: <34d5ec6d.28991409@mail.enterprise.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 714 Lines: 25 On Sun, 1 Feb 98 16:45:09, you wrote: >Has anyone on the list had any sucess in getting SAM Juggler demo to run on >SimCoupe. I found the disk, and no, it doesn't work. :( >It hangs up on my machine at the main part. I.e when SAM is supposed to juggle. Hangs exactly the same on mine. I can't work out which is the saddest though - it not being able to run, or the actual attempting to make it run. :) Just to elaborate, I had to read it into the Amiga because 'Samdisk' wouldn't touch it with the PC drive. Then I had to zip it up and copy it over to the PC, unzip it, and write to another SAM floppy using Paul Walkers's 'Samdump'. 'Samdisk' worked okay this time though. >Stewart Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 22:39:38 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 22:33:15 GMT Message-ID: <34d6ef72.29764492@mail.enterprise.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 765 Lines: 22 On Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:20:14 +0000, you wrote: >At 9:04 pm +0000 1/2/98, Dave wrote: >>claim on these? It's all a bit bit daft really though, IMO - when >>issues of really old magazines still have commercial price tags. > >Pay you 95p for Crash issue 1? > >ie. because some really old magazines sell for significantly _more_ than >the cover price... Aye, I suppose you're right if you look at things that way. I guess that I keep comparing things to the relative worthlessness of all the old Spectrum games. It wont be long before the CSS CD is ready, and an entire era's worth of games will be had for a fiver. I don't suppose I should mention that I also found issue 9 of 'Enigma Tape' magazine. One of the first ever diskmags for the SAM. Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 1 23:13:41 1998 Message-ID: <34D4FF35.39D3@mcmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 23:03:17 +0000 From: JDMorris X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-IDv3b (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: contrition References: <34D343BE.48BC@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1150 Lines: 44 Mark Sturdy wrote: > > Subject: Re: SIM Coupe - wish list. > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 98 14:00:26 > From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) > Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > > On Sat 31 Jan 98 (13:38:45 +0000), asc25@cam.ac.uk wrote: > >At 1:09 pm +0000 31/1/98, Mark Sturdy wrote: > >>YOUR WEBSITE SUCKS, FUCK OFF AND DIE > > > >Er... > > > >Was this directed at anyone in particular? > > > >Andrew > > > > > [snip] > > Just what I was wondering as well. > > > > > Stewart. > Dear members, Mark Sturdy wrote no abuse, it was I. YES! I did it while he was elsewhere and he was very annoyed with me. I am sorry for offending you. Hopefully Mark is now vindicated and all complaints will come to me. He is my friend simply as an act of great charity...please don't associate him with my pathetic, humourless and brainless little life. I don't even own a SAM Coupe' or even a Spectrum; and as Mark points out, I never ever ever ever have. Shamefully yours, Jonathan PS. If I wasn't genuinely sorry living would, of course, be a worse punishment than death. Good job that I really AM sorry then, isn't it? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 00:22:55 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 00:19:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id AAA04880 Status: RO Content-Length: 469 Lines: 20 On Sun, 1 Feb 1998, Andrew Collier wrote: > At 9:04 pm +0000 1/2/98, Dave wrote: > >claim on these? It's all a bit bit daft really though, IMO - when > >issues of really old magazines still have commercial price tags. > > Pay you 95p for Crash issue 1? > > ie. because some really old magazines sell for significantly _more_ than > the cover price... I can do you issue 1 of Crashed for a quid . . . or issue 20 for £1.50 :) SRD, Kl'aa-du. Heart beats up love From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 01:20:27 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: You fools!!!!! Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 01:13:27 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd2f77$c4002740$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1412 Lines: 25 You damn fools! Who hasn't bought Stratosphere yet?! Hands up! Listen, it's bloody brilliant! When I first got it, I looked at it, and thought "hmm nice graphics, technically very nice" but didn't actually think about the gameplay. Over the last week, I've fallen totally in love with the game (don't tell the girlfriend, please...), it really is so addictive when you have a few games. I've been thinking about it, and can't honestly think of a better game on the SAM! I know that's a pretty big thing to say, but I honestly think this might be the best game SAM has! (Games that come close might be good old Prince of Persia and Derf off a Fred disk). Put it this way - I've been so addicted to it that it: 1) Made me forget completely about food I had in the oven, 2) It has given me a cramp in my hands for the last few nights cos I play it for so long, 3) I haven't been to bed before 4am or 5am in the last few nights. But seriously, you are SAM fans, I know we don't have much money to spend on our hobby, but this game is one you won't regret buying - trust me! Colin deserves our support for putting so much effort into stuff for our little blue footed friend! ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 08:39:12 1998 Message-Id: <199802020833.IAA04071@relais1.orctel.co.uk> From: David Zambonini To: sam-users Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:32:47 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 646 Lines: 24 > er, anyway, last nite i managed to successfully get my K6-233 to run > at 266. > > well, i think it was 266. I was running it at 3.5x75Mhz bus tact > which, to almost everyone i would think, would mean it would be > running at 262.5 > but the bios happily reported it as being a 266. > > well, whatever. i gave it some quick bmarks and it was definitely > faster than 3x75 and 3.5x66, so it obviously did something. > > > then it crashed I think you really need a K6-200. These beasties will overclock to 250Mhz on a 83Mhz bus with no problems. Alledgedly. Of course, your motherboards' bus might not be stable at 83Mhz..... DMZ --- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 11:35:59 1998 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:23:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Walker X-Sender: csuan@lupin To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Text editor - little project for someone? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980130202628.006a27d8@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Message-ID: "X-Archive: no" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 499 Lines: 13 On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Simon Cooke wrote: > Actuallly... scratch that... how about a JAVA based one? > Now *that* should be easy, platform independent, and we can take the whole Would be rather slow, wouldn't it? Oh, BTW - any chance of some simple Java programs you've written? We have to learn it for a course here. ;) ----- MicroSoft Windows - where do you want to crash today? ----- FidoNet : 2:254/60.11 2:442/103.13 ---> http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti <--- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 13:42:26 1998 Message-Id: <199802021326.NAA28433@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:25:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability In-reply-to: References: <34d4df1e.25583910@mail.enterprise.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 409 Lines: 13 > Pay you 95p for Crash issue 1? > > ie. because some really old magazines sell for significantly _more_ than > the cover price... i've got stacks of old YSs (Sinclair AND spectrum), your computer, ZX Computing, etc. trouble is, a lot of them have giant craft-knife cuts in them from my GCSE Art days when i used them to protect the table.. one of them has the tape still on it though. worth anything? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 13:42:28 1998 Message-Id: <199802021328.NAA28972@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:27:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-reply-to: <199802020833.IAA04071@relais1.orctel.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 578 Lines: 14 > I think you really need a K6-200. These beasties will overclock to > 250Mhz on a 83Mhz bus with no problems. Alledgedly. um? seems odd to me that a K6-200 will overclock to 250 when a K6-233 won't overclock to 262.5, especially as it takes a higher voltage (so should be more stable.. correct me if i'm wrong). i think i just need better cooling. > Of course, your motherboards' bus might not be stable at 83Mhz..... it's got SeePU so i can't actually select 83 mhz... well, probably a way around it, but it'd involve soldering and stuff which i'm not prepared to do. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 13:56:54 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <0025659F.004B7444.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:47:07 +0000 Subject: Re: You fools!!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 429 Lines: 17 I've GOT Stratosphere!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't call me a fool!!! *grins* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But seriously, you are SAM fans, I know we don't have much money to spend on our hobby, but this game is one you won't regret buying - trust me! Colin deserves our support for putting so much effort into stuff for our little blue footed friend! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< That's racist! My SAM has little black feet!!!! Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 14:46:28 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <0025659F.004C038A.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 14:00:19 +0000 Subject: Re: SAM Assemblers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 821 Lines: 28 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quick question - what assemblers do people own/think is best? I've done a bit of machine code on the Speccy, but none on the SAM, and am eager to get started. Thanks! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I use ZSM on Pro-DOS. it's a full linking assembler but you can only have labels 7 chars long. I prefer ZAS but I can't get it to run on ProDOS (because you can have long label names) I'm think of writing a program in CP/M that goes through ZAS format and converting it to ZSM format (changing label names like win95 does with file names). That way, I can use the HiTech C compiler for SAM stuff... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (BTW, who has the Lerm assembler?) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I do, but I don't recommend it. i don't like line numbers now and I don't like the editing features either. Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 14:46:29 1998 Message-Id: <199802021404.OAA10548@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 14:03:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: You fools!!!!! In-reply-to: <0025659F.004B7444.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 263 Lines: 8 > That's racist! My SAM has little black feet!!!! mine too. but i painted them and its beginning to flake off (teehee) any chance i can get my hands on a DEMO of stratosphere? just a level or whatever ( i don't know the game ) and try and run it in simcoupe? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 14:46:29 1998 Message-Id: <199802021405.OAA10719@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 14:05:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: SAM Assemblers In-reply-to: <0025659F.004C038A.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 263 Lines: 11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (BTW, who has the Lerm assembler?) > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > I do, but I don't recommend it. > i don't like line numbers now and I don't like the editing features either. line .. numbers ..? jeeezus. i'm almost glad i didn't buy it now. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 15:08:01 1998 Message-Id: <199802021502.PAA07224@relais1.orctel.co.uk> From: David Zambonini To: sam-users Subject: Completely off topic AMD stuff (was Format and their selective publicity policy...) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:00:46 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 905 Lines: 23 > > I think you really need a K6-200. These beasties will overclock to > > 250Mhz on a 83Mhz bus with no problems. Alledgedly. > > um? seems odd to me that a K6-200 will overclock to 250 when a K6-233 > won't overclock to 262.5, especially as it takes a higher voltage (so > should be more stable.. correct me if i'm wrong). i think i just need > better cooling. Ummm... nope. Trying high bus speeds with high clock multipliers is what usually causes the instability. Interestingly enough, the lower the clock multiplier and the higher the bus speed, the greater the performance. 100Mhz bus motherboards are out soon...... Of course, better cooling is always advisable. There's nothing worse than hearing the **pop** of your proccessor diving out of its socket to avoid doing a decent day's work. Hell, it seems far too much trouble to run Linux... might as well get myself an alpha.... DMZ --- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 15:22:24 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <786b5a62.34d5e26f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:12:45 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 897 Lines: 36 In a message dated 31/01/98 18:19:20, you write: >> K6-266 and 300 now on test, beyond that is anyone's guess. > >really? K6-300? That's what the release said, though it could I suppose be a miss-print. The main part of the release was on the new lower power versions they have for note-books. > >er, anyway, last nite i managed to successfully get my K6-233 to run >at 266. > >well, i think it was 266. I was running it at 3.5x75Mhz bus tact >which, to almost everyone i would think, would mean it would be >running at 262.5 >but the bios happily reported it as being a 266. > >well, whatever. i gave it some quick bmarks and it was definitely >faster than 3x75 and 3.5x66, so it obviously did something. > > >then it crashed > > > >next week: dave gets a bigger heatsink > > >dave Mmmm. My board will not allow that, it sets the chip speed itself - and they call it progress :( -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 15:22:24 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <0025659F.005359D8.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:15:54 +0000 Subject: Re: SAM Assemblers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 690 Lines: 21 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> (BTW, who has the Lerm assembler?) > > > I do, but I don't recommend it. > i don't like line numbers now and I don't like the editing features either. line .. numbers ..? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Yep. I was okie with them until I discoved assemblers which took a text file as input. It seemed natural to me when I used the Speccy version of Lerm. But the SAM version didn't have the same feel... For now, I'm sticking with my CP/M assembler until someone shows me a native SAM assembler with its features. It's just a bit annoying that I have to move the object code from one disk format to another before I run it. Oh well. The price to pay for flexibility! justin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 15:33:13 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... References: X-Mammoth-Status: Aware X-{giggle}: Lots! From: The Giggler Date: 02 Feb 1998 15:24:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: Paul Walker's message of "Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:12:12 +0000 (GMT)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 378 Lines: 16 Paul Walker writes: > On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, BrenchleyR wrote: > > > Oh no its not..... But it is one of the stupid things Microsloth managed to > > get wrong. > > Use Linux, Bob. You'd like it. Yeah, running Fvwm, you could have one button, two buttons, no buttons, whatever ;) Oops, slightly off topic, but never mind ... -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 15:44:38 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <772d04b3.34d5e80a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:36:40 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id PAA23698 Status: RO Content-Length: 411 Lines: 21 In a message dated 01/02/98 14:26:02, you write: >hello > >i've just got a used coupe but the power suppy is nackered. > >does anyone still mkae them? > >Mike Hi Mike, yes, they are still available. The cost is £24.95 on an exchange basis. Simply return the old PSU with your cheque and we will send you a new one by return. send to: West Coast Mail Order, 34 Bourton Road, Gloucester, GL4 0LE. -- Bob.. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 15:56:56 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and Crashed References: X-Mammoth-Status: Aware X-{giggle}: Lots! From: The Giggler Date: 02 Feb 1998 15:48:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: BrenchleyR@aol.com's message of "Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:38:29 EST" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 629 Lines: 20 BrenchleyR@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 29/01/98 20:24:31, you write: > > Neither, to be honest, do I. The truth will only come out during 2000 and the > first few years of the next century. My personal opinion is that if you think > the worst, and then plan for it, you stand a chance of winning. Or maybe just wasting time doing something that never needed to be done in the first place ... > >From the feed-back we get it seems that our readers are pleased with the > coverage. Erm, except those readers (Or maybe ex-readers) who are here telling you that they aren't (Weren't) ... Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 15:56:57 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980202104438.006a64c0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 10:44:38 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Text editor - little project for someone? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19980130202628.006a27d8@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 420 Lines: 14 At 11:23 AM 2/2/98 +0000, you wrote: >> Actuallly... scratch that... how about a JAVA based one? >> Now *that* should be easy, platform independent, and we can take the whole > >Would be rather slow, wouldn't it? Not if you use Microsoft's JIT :) >Oh, BTW - any chance of some simple Java programs you've written? We have >to learn it for a course here. ;) Erm... what kind of stufF? I wrote a talker in it :) Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 15:56:58 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <0025659F.0056DD04.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 15:49:56 +0000 Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 253 Lines: 13 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mike, yes, they are still available. The cost is ?24.95 on an exchange basis. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< EXCHANGE BASIS??? And there was me thinking I'd get a spare one incase my current one packed up and there was no more left... Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 17:48:51 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: FORMATs news (Y2K) References: <590072b2.34d0dbd2@aol.com> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware X-{giggle}: Lots! From: The Giggler Date: 02 Feb 1998 16:22:11 +0000 In-Reply-To: BillRitman@aol.com's message of "Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:43:12 EST" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 358 Lines: 14 BillRitman@aol.com writes: > >Mind you, looking back on the FORMAT news of the last two or three years, > >what > >percentage of it is SAM-specific? > > But Format is not a SAM specific magazine is it. Don't be so bloody pedantic Bill, it's a SAM/Spectrum magazine neither of which suffer from the Y2K problem. End Of Story. Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 17:48:52 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: FORMATs news - was Re: Format and Cr References: <56d2bd57.34d06d3e@aol.com> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware X-{giggle}: Lots! From: The Giggler Date: 02 Feb 1998 16:30:26 +0000 In-Reply-To: BrenchleyR's message of "Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:51:24 EST" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1273 Lines: 37 BrenchleyR writes: > In a message dated 29/01/98 09:05:30, you write: > > Ok, just let me have one final say. FORMAT is about the Spectrum, SAM, other > Z80 based computers (when we get some input), computers in general and their > effect on all of us. Maybe, it is now but I preferred it when it was a magazine about the SAM and speccy. > If we had people asking for things we were not doing we would try to include > them. If too many people object to something we are doing then we may well > stop doing it. We just try to please most of the people most of the time. So why do you keep arguing (sp?) that our opinions are wrong. You say that you're trying to please people but at the same time when people are giving you opinions you're not saying 'OK, we'll try and remedy it ...' or even 'Well most people seem happy' which would have sat a lot better with me (I can't speak for the others) than your 'You're wrong, I'm right and I don't really care what you think anyway' attitude. For your information I used to enjoy FORMAT until I reached the stage where the articles no longer taught me anything, even then I kept up my sub for the news, but when that went (IMHO) pear-shaped the sub just had to go. Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 17:48:53 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and the Y2K (if I MUST call it that...) References: <1C180D5424@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware X-{giggle}: Lots! From: The Giggler Date: 02 Feb 1998 16:32:36 +0000 In-Reply-To: The Mad Goose's message of "Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:18:01 GMT+0" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 271 Lines: 11 The Mad Goose writes: > If you don't want to read about it, buy something else (FHM has got > the All Saints in this month....) Mmmm, and Cat from MTV. Best issue for a long while (And not a mention of Y2K ;) ) Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 17:48:55 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: SAM Assemblers References: <3.0.1.32.19980129181345.0069d644@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware X-{giggle}: Lots! From: The Giggler Date: 02 Feb 1998 16:31:04 +0000 In-Reply-To: Simon Cooke's message of "Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:13:45 -0800" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 173 Lines: 9 Simon Cooke writes: > Actually, go for Comet + Turbomon (which is available from SImon Owen's site) 100% agreed .. Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 17:48:55 1998 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Format and the Y2K (if I MUST call it that...) References: <1C180D5424@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Mammoth-Status: Aware X-{giggle}: Lots! From: The Giggler Date: 02 Feb 1998 16:48:21 +0000 In-Reply-To: The Giggler's message of "02 Feb 1998 16:32:36 +0000" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 466 Lines: 16 The Giggler writes: > The Mad Goose writes: > > > If you don't want to read about it, buy something else (FHM has got > > the All Saints in this month....) > > Mmmm, and Cat from MTV. Best issue for a long while (And not a > mention of Y2K ;) ) Though thinking about it, maybe all the hi-tech cameras and DTP stuff they use might fail and there'd be no more FHM, Bummer heh? 8) Lee. -- Yawn And Walk North From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 19:38:25 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: You fools!!!!! Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:22:18 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd300f$e0d77060$0514a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 720 Lines: 23 >I've GOT Stratosphere!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Don't call me a fool!!! *grins* Sorry! :) How are you doing anyway? What level? (Justin, IS it just me or is it really as addictive as I think! Although I admit, I've had it for a month or two, and I only recently got so addicted to it...) >That's racist! My SAM has little black feet!!!! > > >Justin. Erm. Oh yeah, good point :) Wish mine had black feet, then my SAM would be a rocker :)) (Anyone got any non-blue feet spare?) :) Gavin ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 19:38:26 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: You fools!!!!! Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:26:26 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd3010$743b5f60$0514a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 994 Lines: 21 Dave Hooper wrote: > any chance i can get my hands on a DEMO of stratosphere? just a level > or whatever ( i don't know the game ) and try and run it in simcoupe? Colin will probably tell me off, as I'm sure he can speak for himself, but as far as I know, there won't be a demo, and almost certainly won't ever be one. Which is a pity really, cos the screenshots don't give you any idea of what the game really feels like to play. He will however send you out a booklet about his products, with a page or two about Stratosphere (he's also got a webpage coming soon). To get the booklet you just send him your postal address (I'm sure he will mail you later when he reads these anyway). (Colin, I'll be expecting a cheque in the post for this ;) Gavin ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 19:38:26 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Format January issue *sighs* Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:27:38 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd3010$9f3802e0$0514a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 382 Lines: 10 Tumteetum, nice day eh? Oh, erm, by the way, is Format January issue out yet? Don't bite my head off Bill/Bob, I was just wondering... Gavin ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 22:01:37 1998 Message-ID: <19980202212206.29757.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [138.251.20.14] From: Colin Piggot To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: You fools!!!!! Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 13:22:05 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1008 Lines: 26 Dave Hooper said: >any chance i can get my hands on a DEMO of stratosphere? just a level >or whatever ( i don't know the game ) I haven't produced a demo of Stratosphere. My web pages are nearing completion and will be open soon with screenshots and info etc... plus it's all covered in my information booklets. Colin P. __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ /_ / / /_/ / / //_ /_//_//_ / /_ : Fast Mode 4 __/ / / / / / /_/__// / //_ / /_ : 3d Vector Action! +------------------------+-------------------------------+ | COLIN PIGGOT | __ ___ __ | | c_piggot@hotmail.com | /| | | | | / | | |\ | | | / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | QUAZAR: Hardware and | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | Software for the Sam | | +------------------------+-------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 2 23:31:09 1998 Message-ID: <19980202232528.2247.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [195.8.80.169] From: Michael Edwards To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 15:25:23 PST X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 770 Lines: 43 ----Original Message Follows---- From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 10:36:40 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no In a message dated 01/02/98 14:26:02, you write: >hello > >i've just got a used coupe but the power suppy is nackered. > >does anyone still mkae them? > >Mike Hi Mike, yes, they are still available. The cost is =A324.95 on an exch= ange basis. Simply return the old PSU with your cheque and we will send you a new o= ne by return. -- Why do you need the old one. I dont have mine anymore. i threw it when it didt work. how much withour the old one? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 11:58:14 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <002565A0.003D3C11.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:21:02 +0000 Subject: Re: Stratosphere Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 667 Lines: 21 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry! :) How are you doing anyway? What level? (Justin, IS it just me or is it really as addictive as I think! Although I admit, I've had it for a month or two, and I only recently got so addicted to it...) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Its really that addictive. It's just that I can't play it at the moment due to a dodgy disk one which will get fixed soon :) I couldn't seem to get anywhere with the standard cybercrafts so I use a custom one: full armour, 3 weapons, and the rest in speed. It's a shame Stratosphere doesn't keep the settings from one game to the next. Oh well, never mind... And the black feet DO rock, coz I have them! :) Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 12:20:06 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:07:48 GMT+0 Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <15F3F83E9C@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 576 Lines: 20 > > Try West Coast Computers, Email Formatpub@aol.com. > I think they cost about 24UKP new. > > what! are they made from gold or somthing? > > Greenweld. 5UKP. Someone else will know the address. Apparently they are really dodgy, but I've never had any problems with mine (although I have been through three of them...) > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 12:20:09 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:13:30 GMT+0 Subject: Re: You fools!!!!! X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <161104440E@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 490 Lines: 14 > Put it this > way - I've been so addicted to it that it: 1) Made me forget completely > about food I had in the oven, 2) It has given me a cramp in my hands for the > last few nights cos I play it for so long, 3) I haven't been to bed before > 4am or 5am in the last few nights Not that I would ever take aything out of context for a cheap joke, but... Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 12:38:49 1998 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:26:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Walker X-Sender: csuan@lupin To: sam mailing list Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? In-Reply-To: <15F3F83E9C@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Message-ID: "X-Archive: no" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 462 Lines: 11 On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, The Mad Goose wrote: > Greenweld. 5UKP. Someone else will know the address. Apparently they > are really dodgy, but I've never had any problems with mine (although > I have been through three of them...) You really know how to inspire confidence, don't you? :) ----- MicroSoft Windows - where do you want to crash today? ----- FidoNet : 2:254/60.11 2:442/103.13 ---> http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti <--- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 12:38:49 1998 Message-Id: <199802031231.MAA05315@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:31:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: You fools!!!!! In-reply-to: <19980202212206.29757.qmail@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 239 Lines: 8 > My web pages are nearing completion and will be open soon with > screenshots and info etc... plus it's all covered in my > information booklets. ..yeh, but i want to try it through simcoupe. can't run screenshots and info on it, etc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 12:38:51 1998 Message-Id: <199802031230.MAA04863@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:29:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-reply-to: <786b5a62.34d5e26f@aol.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 158 Lines: 6 > Mmmm. My board will not allow that, it sets the chip speed itself - and they > call it progress :( really? no jumpers or SeePU bios settings? that sucks. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 12:38:52 1998 From: Paul Walker Message-Id: <199802031233.MAA04803@lupin.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Text editor - little project for someone? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980202104438.006a64c0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> from Simon Cooke at "Feb 2, 98 10:44:38 am" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:33:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Approved: bill@whitehouse.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 374 Lines: 15 > >Would be rather slow, wouldn't it? > Not if you use Microsoft's JIT :) Ick. I thought the idea was to be totally portable? > >Oh, BTW - any chance of some simple Java programs you've written? We have > >to learn it for a course here. ;) > Erm... what kind of stufF? I wrote a talker in it :) That'd do great, if you don't mind? :) [You have my email address!] Paul From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 12:51:52 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: You fools!!!!! Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:48:52 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd30a2$147837a0$0d14a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1091 Lines: 26 >> Put it this >> way - I've been so addicted to it that it: 1) Made me forget completely >> about food I had in the oven, 2) It has given me a cramp in my hands for the >> last few nights cos I play it for so long, 3) I haven't been to bed before >> 4am or 5am in the last few nights > >Not that I would ever take aything out of context for a cheap joke, >but... LOL! No, it wasn't crap Johnna, cheered me up :) (I've a hangover after last night...which reminds me, I didn't post to the list last night when I was drunk did I? I think I did that a couple of years ago, and boy did I regret it....:) Buy Stratosphere Gavin (Who just about got back into uni after his exam results came out yesterday...the only one I passed was Systems Analysis *chokes* - one less mark and I would have been kicked out...) ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 12:51:52 1998 Message-Id: <199802031250.MAA09408@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:50:15 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Completely off topic AMD stuff (was Format and their selecti In-reply-to: <199802021502.PAA07224@relais1.orctel.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 680 Lines: 22 > Ummm... nope. Trying high bus speeds with high clock multipliers > is what usually causes the instability. so by that logic i DON'T need a K6-200 after all. if i had a K6-200 overclocked to 250 (3*83Mhz) then i could just as easily have a K6-233 overclocked to 250 (3*83), and it'd probably be more stable. same multiplier and bus speed but higher spec chip. still doesn't change the fact i can't get my motherboard faster than 75mhz :( > performance. 100Mhz bus motherboards are out soon...... been out for ages! > Hell, it seems far too much trouble to run Linux... might as well > get myself an alpha.... or don't bother using linux... can't say i see the appeal From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 13:19:36 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:50:03 GMT+0 Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <1701443C13@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1238 Lines: 30 > On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, The Mad Goose wrote: > > > Greenweld. 5UKP. Someone else will know the address. Apparently they > > are really dodgy, but I've never had any problems with mine (although > > I have been through three of them...) > > You really know how to inspire confidence, don't you? :) Yeah, but myproblem was that, because the SAM PSU has no OFF button I kept leaving it plugged in - for nearly a week at one time. THis resulted in it overheating all the time which was a pain. It knocked out the vidoe circuitry i think because I can still get sound through using them, and I'm led to believe that using SCART they will still be of use. That's why I'll be holding on to mine... Must admit though, after the video circuitry blew, that annoying buzz that the SAM generates when it has bright colours on teh screen (pallet 127 was always the worst) dissapeared...so some good came out of it... > > ----- MicroSoft Windows - where do you want to crash today? ----- > FidoNet : 2:254/60.11 2:442/103.13 > ---> http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti <--- > > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 13:19:36 1998 Message-Id: <199802031317.NAA16235@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:16:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? In-reply-to: <1701443C13@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 563 Lines: 16 > Must admit though, after the video circuitry blew, that annoying buzz > that the SAM generates when it has bright colours on teh screen > (pallet 127 was always the worst) dissapeared...so some good came out > of it... .. speaking of which, did i ever tell you that pallette 127 on my sam is a nasty bright green? in fact, all the whites and greys have a quite distinctive green tint (unless i turn down the color control on my telly way low - at which point everything looks almost grey anyway) and it's not my telly (speccy looks fine on it) dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 3 13:38:39 1998 Message-Id: <199802031333.NAA11793@relais1.orctel.co.uk> From: David Zambonini To: sam-users Subject: Re: Completely off topic AMD stuff (was Format and their selecti Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:32:09 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1630 Lines: 50 > > Ummm... nope. Trying high bus speeds with high clock multipliers > > is what usually causes the instability. > > so by that logic i DON'T need a K6-200 after all. > > if i had a K6-200 overclocked to 250 (3*83Mhz) then i could just as > easily have a K6-233 overclocked to 250 (3*83), and it'd probably be > more stable. same multiplier and bus speed but higher spec chip. Oh. Sorry. I meant to say that a K6-166 overclocked to 200 has more power than a K6-233 (2.5*83Mhz vs. 3.5*66Mhz) due to the faster bus speed. A K6-233 on an 83Mhz bus **should** give 290Mhz..... > > performance. 100Mhz bus motherboards are out soon...... > > been out for ages! **stable** and **guarenteed to run** 100Mhz bus speeds, as opposed to 'although we have these jumper settings, we cannot guarentee that your board will be able to run at this speed' > > Hell, it seems far too much trouble to run Linux... might as well > > get myself an alpha.... > > or don't bother using linux... can't say i see the appeal > Linux is a **programmers'** operating system. Unlike DOS or Windows.... Try multitasking in DOS, or using shared memory in Windows.... You may be able to have IPC in Windows, but now try writing a simple Windows program that actually does it. What can I say? Its bloody fast, bugs get fixed as they appear (try waiting for Microsoft to admit a bug exists... and then release the next 'service pack'). Finally, how many platforms will Microsoft products run on? Linux runs under a lot more, easily.... (although not the SAM, unfortunately) Once you've used it, you'll never want to use anything else.... DMZ --- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:24:57 1998 Message-Id: <199802031352.NAA25823@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:52:30 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Completely off topic AMD stuff (was Format and their selecti In-reply-to: <199802031333.NAA11793@relais1.orctel.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2207 Lines: 61 > Oh. Sorry. I meant to say that a K6-166 overclocked to 200 has more power > than a K6-233 (2.5*83Mhz vs. 3.5*66Mhz) due to the faster bus speed. > A K6-233 on an 83Mhz bus **should** give 290Mhz..... well... only if you run it as 3.5x83mhz... " **should** " in what sense? i'm not sure i understand your point... a k6-233 could quite feasibly fail to boot at 290mhz... but then again some guy's probably already managed to get his 233 to run at 4x83=332 ... essentially there is next to no difference between the k6-166 and the k6-200 (at the moment) except in the tolerances of the components. so a k6-166 at 3 x 83 will be precisely as fast as a k6-200 at 3 x 83 (except maybe a little less stable) > **stable** and **guarenteed to run** 100Mhz bus speeds, as opposed to > 'although we have these jumper settings, we cannot guarentee that > your board will be able to run at this speed' yeh, the first ones came out around four months ago... it's pretty easy for the mboard manufacturers to make a board that they can guarantee will run at 100mhz... it's the 3rd party components that they cannot guarantee will be compatible (cpu, pci cards, etc) > Linux is a **programmers'** operating system. Unlike DOS or Windows.... > Try multitasking in DOS, or using shared memory in Windows.... you could use djgpp in DOS with some of the fancy multiprocessing libs to get multitasking etc what's the problem with shared memory? it's easy enough. > You may be able to have IPC in Windows, but now try writing a simple > Windows program that actually does it. have done. but thanks anyway. (win32 by the way... win3.1? ick) > Finally, how many platforms will Microsoft products run on? > Linux runs under a lot more, easily.... (although not the SAM, > unfortunately) so what? why would that influence a purchasing decision on my part? ' i will get Linux because i use Linux at work '? you could always run something else at home... means having to know more than one kind of OS, but so what? > Once you've used it, you'll never want to use anything else.... well, strictly speaking, this is an untruth. for example, put it this way. i've used linux. i still use win95. dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:24:59 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980203085748.006a363c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 08:57:48 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Text editor - little project for someone? In-Reply-To: <199802031233.MAA04803@lupin.csv.warwick.ac.uk> References: <3.0.1.32.19980202104438.006a64c0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 955 Lines: 25 At 12:33 PM 2/3/98 +0000, you wrote: >> >Would be rather slow, wouldn't it? >> Not if you use Microsoft's JIT :) > >Ick. I thought the idea was to be totally portable? It would be. Microsoft's JIT is just the fastest one around -- as fast as native C++ in some circumstances. It'd still run on other ones -- just slower. >> >Oh, BTW - any chance of some simple Java programs you've written? We have >> >to learn it for a course here. ;) >> Erm... what kind of stufF? I wrote a talker in it :) > >That'd do great, if you don't mind? :) > >[You have my email address!] *grins* I'll try and dig it out... it's not particularly tidy, doesn't take concurrency properly into account, and the network code is slightly dodgy -- but it works, and is reasonably nicely object oriented. It's 1st-pass code -- ie. just proving the principle. The pretty stuff would be next version. Oh, and it's not too well documented, but you should be able to digest it. Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:24:59 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980203085859.0069cef0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 08:58:59 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Stratosphere In-Reply-To: <002565A0.003D3C11.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 191 Lines: 10 At 11:21 AM 2/3/98 +0000, you wrote: >And the black feet DO rock, coz I have them! :) > >Justin. So do I. On a 1989 SAM. Figure that one out ;) (As well as a black/grey keyboard ;)) Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:25:00 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 14:41:51 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Stratosphere X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <189FDB0C3F@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 409 Lines: 19 > At 11:21 AM 2/3/98 +0000, you wrote: > >And the black feet DO rock, coz I have them! :) > > > >Justin. > > So do I. On a 1989 SAM. Figure that one out ;) > > (As well as a black/grey keyboard ;)) Did we have this one some time last year? Or am I dreaming? > > Simon > > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:25:10 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <002565A0.004ECFF9.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:05:12 +0000 Subject: Re: Custom SAMs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 430 Lines: 17 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So do I. On a 1989 SAM. Figure that one out ;) (As well as a black/grey keyboard ;)) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 1989? Let me try and work this out.... When did WCC by the SAM from SAMCO? I remember getting my SAM a few months before SAMCO went gaa-gaa. My keyboard looks like white with grey (two shades depending on what key - I think! Ack! I can't remember!) keys on. What was the "normal" SAM colour config? Justin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:25:20 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <002565A0.005300D8.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:06:50 +0000 Subject: Re: Stratosphere Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 156 Lines: 9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did we have this one some time last year? Or am I dreaming? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Yes, but at least it makes a change to the fighting! Justin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:25:28 1998 Message-Id: <199802031509.PAA12613@relais1.orctel.co.uk> From: David Zambonini To: sam-users Subject: Re: Completely off topic AMD stuff (was Format and their selecti Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:07:38 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2114 Lines: 56 > essentially there is next to no difference between the k6-166 and the > k6-200 (at the moment) except in the tolerances of the components. > so a k6-166 at 3 x 83 will be precisely as fast as a k6-200 at 3 x 83 > (except maybe a little less stable) Price! > you could use djgpp in DOS with some of the fancy multiprocessing > libs to get multitasking etc I've got djgpp, and I don't remember any fancy multiprocessing libs... a program can't do multitasking unless the operating system its running on can. Oh, and there's a big difference between multitasking and multiprocessing, still, moving along...... > what's the problem with shared memory? it's easy enough. Fair enough. But again, unless the operating system supports it, you're in **big** trouble. > > You may be able to have IPC in Windows, but now try writing a simple > > Windows program that actually does it. > > have done. but thanks anyway. (win32 by the way... win3.1? ick) Congrats. Now do it in less than 10 lines from the command line using vi. It's a lot faster and easier to write in a unixy enviroment than it is in windows... > > Finally, how many platforms will Microsoft products run on? > > Linux runs under a lot more, easily.... (although not the SAM, > > unfortunately) > > so what? why would that influence a purchasing decision on my part? > ' i will get Linux because i use Linux at work '? > you could always run something else at home... means having to know > more than one kind of OS, but so what? Ah. Back to fvwm. Windows is more GUI than OS. Get fvwm, and you'll never tell the difference.... And Linux is **free**. I don't suggest using Linux because you use it at work (although I **do** use SunOS at work). However, consider the ability to write a program on one machine and with virtually no modifications run it on a machine with a fundamentally different architecture... > > Once you've used it, you'll never want to use anything else.... > > well, strictly speaking, this is an untruth. > for example, put it this way. i've used linux. i still use win95. OK, I'll take that one back... :) DMZ --- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:25:29 1998 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 16:12:20 +0100 (MET) From: Allan Skillman X-Sender: allan@hpopl1.cern.ch To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Signing off for a bit... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 921 Lines: 21 Hi All, Well its time to sign off from this account so it can be closed down. I'm at ARM now so I'll resubscribe as soon as I have some spare time. In the meantime my new E-mail address is : allan.skillman@arm.com bye for now Allan +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Now available! SimCoupe, the one and only SAM Coupe emulator | | ******* http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ajs/simcoupe ******* | +------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Allan Skillman | "There are five flavours of resons, the | | HEPP Group | elementary particles of magic : up, down, | | University College London | sideways, sex-appeal and peppermint." | | Email : ajs@hep.ucl.ac.uk | - Terry Pratchett (Lords and Ladies) | +------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:25:29 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 16:54:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: Sam Users Members List Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 3857 Lines: 93 It's been a time since I last produced one of these, but today's been a bit slow and I thought I'd have a go at pulling the majordomo list off into Access *shudders*. Anyway, here is the list, with most names taken from an older list - I think many of the spellings are wrong, but let me know and I'll amend the database. Dan. Work: dandoore@bacg.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ ---- Name Email Address ----------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Collier asc25@cam.ac.uk Andy Chandler ajchandler@hotmail.com Andy Gale ee31ag@ee.surrey.ac.uk Arne di Russo ar@RMnet.it Ben Verstaag ben@charm.il.ft.hse.nl Bill Ritman BillRitman@aol.com Bob Brenchley BrenchleyR@aol.com Colin MacDonald Gouranga@aol.com Colin Piggot c_piggot@hotmail.com Dan Doore dandoore@bacg.com Dave Fulton D.A.Fulton@durham.ac.uk Dave Handley d.handley@lancaster.ac.uk Dave Hooper d.c.hooper@sms.ed.ac.uk Dave Whitmore davewhitmore@enterprise.net David Zambonini D.M.Zambonini@cs.cf.ac.uk David Zambonini dzamboni@orchid.co.uk David Zambonini dzambonini@orctel.co.uk Dean Liversidge dean@error.demon.co.uk Diggory Gray graydj@ugs1.ph.bham.ac.uk Edwin Blink e.p.r.p.blink@pl.hanze.nl Frode Tennebo ft@edh.ericsson.se Gavin Smith gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk Graham Goring graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk Ian Collier Ian.Collier@comlab.oxford.ac.uk Ian Dalziel IDalziel@idalziel.demon.co.uk Ian Spencer ian.spencer@bull.net J.K. Ogden se94jko@ex.ac.uk James Curry James@lhutz.demon.co.uk Jeff Crawford samcoupe@cadderly.demon.co.uk Johnna Teare j.d.teare@uclan.ac.uk Justin Skists Justin_Skists@case.co.uk Lee Willis l.willis@comp.brad.ac.uk Luke Trevorrow blackadder@orinocco.demon.co.uk M.G. Smith mchu4mgs@fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk Martin/Maria Rookyard rookyard@btinternet.com Mike Edwards mike_edwards18@hotmail.com Neil Maynard mne2@cableol.co.uk Persona persona@clara.net Peter Harkess peterharkess@nuearth.demon.co.uk Phil Glover PGLOVER43@aol.com Robert Van Der Veeke rjvveeke@caiw.nl Shane Smith shane.smith@ingbank.com Simon Cooke simon.cooke@umist.ac.uk Simon Owen sam-users@obobo.demon.co.uk Slawomir Grodkowski slawek@math.uni-goettingen.de Stacey Witney switney@huggable.demon.co.uk Stefan Drissen Stefan_Drissen@nl.coopers.com Stephen Harding sh5655@bristol.ac.uk Stephen Harding sh5655@irix.bris.ac.uk Stuart Skandon sskardon@argonet.co.uk Tim Paveley unc@dplinux.sund.ac.uk Tim Paveley unc@mono.org Tim Wells tim@twellys.demon.co.uk Tomasz Pudlo tombox@katowice.pkp.com.pl Wayne Coles wayne@rflect.demon.co.uk Unknowns mcbi6mc2@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk mltest@hotmail.com mail01@iarmst.demon.co.uk 106460.3142@compuserve.com 101762.2062@compuserve.com davidm@enterprise.net gary@avtech.demon.co.uk bbk@bbk.org pyumi@csv.warwick.ac.uk janowska@usctoux1.cto.us.edu.pl rwb197@ecs.soton.ac.uk csuan@csv.warwick.ac.uk PNolan@clubi.ie ELA95BEC@sheffield.ac.uk adie@scooter.demon.co.uk 113354.2207@Compuserve.com From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:25:30 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:03:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@holly To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Custom SAMs In-Reply-To: <002565A0.004ECFF9.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 145 Lines: 11 My SAM is the one that Rob Holman used to write Defenders of the Earth on. Just thought I'd mention it. SRD, Kl'aa-du. Heart beats up love From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:25:41 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:06:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@holly To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no cc: Sam Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 150 Lines: 14 On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Dan Doore wrote: > Unknowns > pyumi@csv.warwick.ac.uk That's me. SRD, Kl'aa-du. Heart beats up love From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:25:41 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:07:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@holly To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no cc: Sam Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 235 Lines: 16 On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Dan Doore wrote: Oh, and . . . > ELA95BEC@sheffield.ac.uk That's Ben Curren, and > adie@scooter.demon.co.uk That's Adie Nunn. SRD, Kl'aa-du. Heart beats up love From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:00 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980203134050.006a140c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 13:40:50 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 333 Lines: 15 At 04:54 PM 2/3/98 +0000, you wrote: >Unknowns > > mcbi6mc2@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk Matthew Craven > mail01@iarmst.demon.co.uk Ian Armstrong > pyumi@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mark Sturdy > adie@scooter.demon.co.uk Adie Nunn... Adie's on the list? Wow... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:01 1998 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:50:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Brady To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 140 Lines: 8 On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Dan Doore wrote: > rwb197@ecs.soton.ac.uk That's me. -- Robert Brady, rwb197@ecs.soton.ac.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:02 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: electron.mono.org: unc owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 19:41:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Tim Paveley To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 483 Lines: 18 Urk! could someone with power wipe unc@dplinux.sund.ac.uk Coz the machine doesn't exist anymore, which makes it hard to unsub :) (had expected it to get deleted once it started bouncing heavily) Soz,! ....@/ On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Dan Doore wrote: > Tim Paveley unc@dplinux.sund.ac.uk .............................................................................@/ Unc - Tim Paveley - Moderator of "The Games Room" & "Ascii Animations" http://www.mono.org/~unc/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:03 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 98 20:25:49 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1293 Lines: 47 On Tue 3 Feb 98 (16:54:00 +0000), dandoore@bacg.com wrote: > >It's been a time since I last produced one of these, but today's been a >Stephen Harding sh5655@irix.bris.ac.uk >Stuart Skandon sskardon@argonet.co.uk Arggghhhhh! It's STEWART SKARDON. [snip] > 101762.2062@compuserve.com > davidm@enterprise.net David Mundon? > gary@avtech.demon.co.uk > bbk@bbk.org > pyumi@csv.warwick.ac.uk Know this one....Mark Sturdy. :-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Been trying to mail it for 5 days now. > janowska@usctoux1.cto.us.edu.pl > rwb197@ecs.soton.ac.uk > csuan@csv.warwick.ac.uk Paul Walker? > PNolan@clubi.ie > ELA95BEC@sheffield.ac.uk > adie@scooter.demon.co.uk Adie Nunn? > 113354.2207@Compuserve.com > > -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:05 1998 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:10:27 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Adie Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 219 Lines: 11 Dan Doore wrote: > adie@scooter.demon.co.uk Damn! And I was trying to hide! >:( -- Adie http://www.scooter.demon.co.uk Blind Youth Fanzine HQ + Travis, Inaura, The Needles From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:05 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980203153647.0069dd58@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 15:36:47 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 220 Lines: 11 At 08:25 PM 2/3/98, you wrote: >>Stuart Skandon sskardon@argonet.co.uk > >Arggghhhhh! It's STEWART SKARDON. >> davidm@enterprise.net > >David Mundon? Arggghhhhh! It's DAVID MUNDEN. Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:05 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980203153841.0069b1ec@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 15:38:41 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: IIS 3.0 With ASP? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 172 Lines: 8 Anyone got a server going spare running IIS3.0 at least with ASP? It's possible that within the next week or two I may have to relocate the webring pages etc. Ta, Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:07 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980203165530.0069fa60@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:55:30 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Famous SAM People Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 617 Lines: 21 So... what big and hairy software companies and projects are SAM Programmers working on at the moment? I'll start the ball rolling: Person - Large Software Company - What they're working on Chris White - Hookstone Ltd. (via Psygnosis) - Sentinel Returns --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:08 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980203165026.0069db84@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:50:26 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 170 Lines: 8 At 09:10 PM 2/3/98 +0000, you wrote: >> adie@scooter.demon.co.uk > >Damn! And I was trying to hide! >:( You can lurk, but you can't hide :) Simon From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:09 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <254b7aa4.34d796a8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:13:58 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Format and Crashed Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 347 Lines: 15 In a message dated 02/02/98 20:40:42, you write: >> >From the feed-back we get it seems that our readers are pleased with the >> coverage. > >Erm, except those readers (Or maybe ex-readers) who are here telling you >that they aren't (Weren't) ... > >Lee. The renewal rate is still up on last year, so we must be doing something right. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:10 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <7c6ff6a5.34d79780@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:17:34 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 390 Lines: 18 In a message dated 02/02/98 20:41:56, you write: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Hi Mike, yes, they are still available. The cost is ?24.95 on an exchange >basis. ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > >EXCHANGE BASIS??? > >And there was me thinking I'd get a spare one incase my current >one packed up and there was no more left... > >Justin. We do sell them (non-exchange) at shows if you care to come along. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:11 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:22:24 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 415 Lines: 16 In a message dated 03/02/98 16:33:45, you write: >> Mmmm. My board will not allow that, it sets the chip speed itself - and >they >> call it progress :( > >really? no jumpers or SeePU bios settings? > >that sucks. ATX boards for you, simple to put a system together, very little cable inside, Printer/RS232 and most other connectors on the main board - it is like a step back to the days of the 286.... -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:12 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <9c43db96.34d7970b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:15:37 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: FORMATs news (Y2K) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 295 Lines: 14 In a message dated 02/02/98 20:40:46, you write: >. > >Don't be so bloody pedantic Bill, it's a SAM/Spectrum magazine neither >of which suffer from the Y2K problem. End Of Story. > >Lee. Please refer to the answers I have given before. End of story set for, at a guess, around 2005. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:12 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:33:57 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: were do i get a power suply? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1570 Lines: 39 In a message dated 03/02/98 16:33:52, you write: >Greenweld. 5UKP. Someone else will know the address. Apparently they >are really dodgy, but I've never had any problems with mine (although >I have been through three of them...) They are not "really dodgy" Johnna. They are stolen property (well, almost). They were built (rebuilt would be a better word) for MGT by some Welsh Valley firm - when MGT went down the were held in store by the company but were the propert of MGT's receiver. Unknown to the receiver, the company in Wales went bust and their receiver sold all the supplies to the Greeny-guys (they knew nothing about the fact that the PSUs belonged to someone other than the person they purchased them from). There was much fuss when MGT's receiver found out (from me) but in the end it would have cost him money to take legal action to recover the PSUs and he was not willing to do that. Now, on delivery to SAMCO there was at some points a 75% reject rate. We warned, and still warn people not to buy them unless their machine is out of warranty. I would also say that anyone should be ready to test them BEFORE using with SAM. So far, from feedback, they have proved just as unreliable as the early MGT ones were until SAMCO worked out how to get them working a little better. As always, you pays your money, you makes your choice. Nost common problem is no 12v line, or large spikes on 12v line. If used with a monitor it will not matter if you blow the 1377 (and anyway, the 1377 is available for people to fit if they want). HTH. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:12 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <80f9eab1.34d79c0a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:36:56 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Stratosphere Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 380 Lines: 22 In a message dated 03/02/98 16:34:19, you write: >o > >At 11:21 AM 2/3/98 +0000, you wrote: >>And the black feet DO rock, coz I have them! :) >> >>Justin. > >So do I. On a 1989 SAM. Figure that one out ;) > >(As well as a black/grey keyboard ;)) > >Simon Sets of Black (or Blue) feet can be supplied if required :) I would still kike to get hold of the yellow sets. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:25 1998 Message-Id: <9802032252.AA00057@mars.cableol.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Neil Maynard To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 22:53:57 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability In-Reply-To: <34d4df1e.25583910@mail.enterprise.net> References: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1054 Lines: 32 I've got issue 1 and as far as I can remember there was no issue 7! Neil Maynard > > Tried and failed to find it. I'll have another look later though. > > However, while I was looking, I came across the 'SAM Amateur > Programming and Electronics' issues again. This follows on from a > thread last year, when Shane Smith declared all his old SAM magazines > as PD. Anyway, I have issues 2-6, and I was wondering if anyone had > issue 1, or issue 7 (if there was a 7)? > > I've made 2-6 into a Zip file squashed down to 800484 bytes, and if I > can get hold of the other issues, I'll stick the lot on the web space, > or upload to NVG. They run okay on SIM Coupe, and anyone who claims to > be a SAM fan should have them. > > So who has issues 1 & 7? > > [Phil Glover- did you have either of these?] > > I also found 'Softrix' issues 1 & 2, but I think Persona might have a > claim on these? It's all a bit bit daft really though, IMO - when > issues of really old magazines still have commercial price tags. > > > Bye, > > Dave Whitmore > From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:26 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Stratosphere Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:52:35 GMT Message-ID: <34de9d43.15019261@mail.enterprise.net> References: <3.0.1.32.19980203085859.0069cef0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980203085859.0069cef0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1304 Lines: 43 On Tue, 03 Feb 1998 08:58:59 -0800, you wrote: Simon wrote: >At 11:21 AM 2/3/98 +0000, you wrote: >>And the black feet DO rock, coz I have them! :) >> >>Justin. > >So do I. On a 1989 SAM. Figure that one out ;) > >(As well as a black/grey keyboard ;)) Let me take a wild guess... Why, you've got a pre-production SAM! I wonder what made me think that? :) Peter Harkess has got my original 1989 SAM (hiya Peter), and the one in the cupboard is as old, but it has the 'SAM Computers Ltd' ROM. I think I must have had one of the first officially shipped SAMs. I kept phoning MGT in the run up to its release and I remember the satisfaction in Alan Miles's voice when he said 'Your equipment will be with you in a few days time'. It must've been a big relief after all the delays to be able to say that.Still, it was quite a while before the drive arrived. I *think* I got my SAM on the 19th December '89, but I might be out one or two days either way. Who remembers ROM V1? Jeez, what a nightmare, eh? I remember phoning to ask why Basic's DRAW TO always crashed when you added the third parameter, and the girl saying 'Oh, sounds like /you've/ got a faulty ROM.' Then the horror stories in NCE came out and killed the SAM dead. Damn those bastards! CALL 229385 CALL 491529 :) Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 00:26:27 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:52:53 GMT Message-ID: <34db9bb7.14622625@mail.enterprise.net> References: <3.0.1.32.19980203165026.0069db84@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980203165026.0069db84@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 357 Lines: 19 On Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:50:26 -0800, you wrote: >At 09:10 PM 2/3/98 +0000, you wrote: >>> adie@scooter.demon.co.uk >> >>Damn! And I was trying to hide! >:( > >You can lurk, but you can't hide :) > >Simon That's two women on the list (AFAICT). That and those few dubious boys. What's it all coming to, I ask? :) Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 02:00:29 1998 From: davidm@enterprise.net (David Munden) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Derek Morgan - New Game Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:45:31 GMT Message-ID: <34d6f786.5254731@mail.enterprise.net> References: <8ab33df6.34ca0163@aol.com> <34d04f4a.23625498@mail.enterprise.net> In-Reply-To: <34d04f4a.23625498@mail.enterprise.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 361 Lines: 11 On Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:47:31 GMT, you wrote: >(this is just a feeble attempt to bait David Munden into making an >appearance) Now why would I want to do that:) I have been a bit behind with reading this list, but I have now nearly caught up. it doesn`t help that when I do collect my mail that there are so many mails to collect. _ |_)avid (\/)unden From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 02:00:29 1998 From: davidm@enterprise.net (David Munden) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: One SAM families... Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:45:33 GMT Message-ID: <34d8fb3a.6202820@mail.enterprise.net> References: <199801291257.MAA16405@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <199801291257.MAA16405@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 411 Lines: 12 On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:57:03 +0000, you wrote: >> perhaps someone was thinking about a CD-Writer method of obtaining >> PC games and that the PSX has hardware copy protection. Hmmm... > >does it? probably easy to get around it though. >(did i just say that?) It is easy to get around. All you have to do is buy a small chip and fit it onto the playstation then you can play cd-r copies. _ |_)avid (\/)unden From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 08:33:22 1998 Message-Id: <199802040829.IAA14812@relais1.orctel.co.uk> From: David Zambonini To: sam-users Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 08:27:38 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 755 Lines: 32 > Urk! > > could someone with power wipe unc@dplinux.sund.ac.uk > > Coz the machine doesn't exist anymore, which makes it hard to unsub :) > (had expected it to get deleted once it started bouncing heavily) > Eeeekkk! Likewise with two of the **three??** addresses I'm apparently under.... D.M.Zambonini@cs.cf.ac.uk and dzamboni@orctel.co.uk. Didn't have a chance to unsub D.M.Zambonini@cs.cf.ac.uk before I left university (although I understand the account is still there... wonder what the mailbox size is by now?) Oh, I can be reached at three addresses, currently.... dzambonini@orctel.co.uk dave@orctel.co.uk and..... God@orctel.co.uk ( So no superiority complex there, then :) ) Isn't life grand when you've got root access..... DMZ --- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 09:49:06 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <002565A1.003468F5.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 09:36:35 +0000 Subject: Re: Famous SAM People Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 333 Lines: 8 Simon started the ball rolling: (Well, I'm not a large programming company and the things I'm working on are not going to be huge - So, do I count?) Person - Large Software Company - What they're working on Chris White - Hookstone Ltd. (via Psygnosis) - Sentinel Returns Justin Skists - Xenoic Systems - Xenopsys/MIDI Toolkit From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 10:37:20 1998 From: Matthew Craven Organization: UMIST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:26:25 BST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-ID: <569F342F86@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 148 Lines: 8 > Unknowns > mcbi6mc2@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk How can my name be unknown - I registered my name with the email address. MJC. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 10:46:39 1998 X-Warning: Original message contained 8-bit characters, however during the SMTP transport session the receiving system was unable to announce capability of receiving 8-bit SMTP (RFC 1651-1653), and as this message does not have MIME headers (RFC 2045-2049) to enable encoding change, we had very little choices. X-Warning: We ASSUME it is less harmful to add the MIME headers, and convert the text to Quoted-Printable, than not to do so, and to strip the message to 7-bits.. (RFC 1428 Appendix A) X-Warning: We don't know what character set the user used, thus we had to write these MIME-headers with our local system default value. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 11:37:20 +0100 From: ft@edh.ericsson.se (Frode Tenneboe) Message-Id: <9802041037.AA13654@asmal.edh-net> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Famous SAM People X-Sun-Charset: ISO-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id KAA22591 Status: RO Content-Length: 282 Lines: 5 Simon started the ball rolling: Person - Large Software Company - What they're working on Chris White - Hookstone Ltd. (via Psygnosis) - Sentinel Returns Justin Skists - Xenoic Systems - Xenopsys/MIDI Toolkit Frode Tennebø - Ericsson Radar - various radar control systems From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 12:22:49 1998 Message-ID: <9630DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 11:57:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: Sam Users Members List Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 396 Lines: 15 > > mcbi6mc2@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk > > How can my name be unknown - I registered my name with the email > address. Simple, majordomo (the list server) only keeps a list of the email addresses - the list of real names is something that I do *manually* and post up every so often Dan. Work: dandoore@bacg.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 12:22:49 1998 Message-Id: <199802041212.MAA00124@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:12:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Famous SAM People In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19980203165530.0069fa60@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 185 Lines: 11 > Chris White - Hookstone Ltd. (via Psygnosis) - Sentinel Returns no...! is he? blimey, good shit. i luvved sentinel. now i know who's doing the sequel i'll probably buy it. dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 12:33:41 1998 Message-Id: <199802041223.MAA02695@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:22:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Completely off topic AMD stuff (was Format and their selecti In-reply-to: <199802031509.PAA12613@relais1.orctel.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2443 Lines: 76 > > (except maybe a little less stable) > > Price! l) ok, yeh, well, there is that > > you could use djgpp in DOS with some of the fancy multiprocessing > > libs to get multitasking etc > > I've got djgpp, and I don't remember any fancy multiprocessing libs... > a program can't do multitasking unless the operating system its > running on can. .. except if the libraries implement the multitasking themselves... which iirc is what they actually do... > Oh, and there's a big difference between > multitasking and multiprocessing, still, moving along...... yeh, yeh, i know. i meant multiprocessing as dealing with many processes (not processors) to distinguish between a process and a task... forgetting that multiprocessing meant something else entirely... oops > > what's the problem with shared memory? it's easy enough. > > Fair enough. But again, unless the operating system supports it, > you're in **big** trouble. good job i don't program extensively in dos then, innit. > Congrats. Now do it in less than 10 lines from the command line using vi. ugh. don't wanna use vi. don't wanna use ue or xemacs... just fine using an ide at the moment > It's a lot faster and easier to write in a unixy enviroment than it > is in windows... .. but maybe a lot more satisfying (and potentially commercial) to program in windoze? > Windows is more GUI than OS. true - but i like it gooey > Get fvwm, and you'll > never tell the difference.... And Linux is **free**. yeh you will, cause you can't get all the apps in linux that i like using... no matter whether you're using fvwm or xwindows or bash... and windoze is sorta free if it comes with your pc anyway... > However, consider the ability to write a program on one > machine and with virtually no modifications run it on a machine with > a fundamentally different architecture... ok, point taken... if that's what i wanted to do. but if i wanted to make a go of writing software for PCs the chances are there are more PCs in the world running MS-SHITE than linux anyway two different viewpoints really. i mean, you don't get adverts for new games that say 'run under Win95 or Red Hat'... so at the moment i'm learning the tools of the trade, from the market's point of view (one day i'll want to make /some/ money outta this programming lark, and while the market seems to be MS-centric then i guess experience in this would prove profitable) dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 12:33:49 1998 Message-Id: <199802041226.MAA03458@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 12:26:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 663 Lines: 23 > >really? no jumpers or SeePU bios settings? > > > >that sucks. > > ATX boards for you, simple to put a system together, very little cable inside, > Printer/RS232 and most other connectors on the main board - it is like a step > back to the days of the 286.... eh? dunno what you mean. my ATX has jumpers and SeePU bios settings to change the cpu speed look /real/ hard again... there /must/ be some way to change the processor speed. i fail to believe there exist mboards that automatically sense the cpu and refuse to allow user intervention. which is not to say i doubt your word... it is instead to say that the manufacturers must be dicks. dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 19:59:54 1998 Message-ID: <8yKkEKAKl410Ewkb@scooter.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:16:58 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Adie Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980203134050.006a140c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 277 Lines: 12 Simon Cooke wrote: >Adie Nunn... Adie's on the list? Wow... DAMNIT! I was just here to spy on you all! Grrr. Only been on the list for the last few days. -- Adie http://www.scooter.demon.co.uk Blind Youth Fanzine HQ + Travis, Inaura, The Needles From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 19:59:54 1998 Message-Id: <199802041425.OAA18027@relais1.orctel.co.uk> From: David Zambonini To: sam-users Subject: Drifting further... Windows vs. Linux ( was: Completely off topic AMD stuff ) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 14:24:01 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2817 Lines: 84 > > > you could use djgpp in DOS with some of the fancy multiprocessing > > > libs to get multitasking etc > > > > I've got djgpp, and I don't remember any fancy multiprocessing libs... > > a program can't do multitasking unless the operating system its > > running on can. > > .. except if the libraries implement the multitasking > themselves... which iirc is what they actually do... How can a library implement multitasking when it is run as a process? I fail to see this... the program may multitask internally, but will not sit alongside anything else. I believe the djgpp libraries **support** multitasking, but not under DOS. > > Congrats. Now do it in less than 10 lines from the command line using vi. > > ugh. don't wanna use vi. don't wanna use ue or xemacs... just fine > using an ide at the moment Used out of desperation, more than anything else.... > > It's a lot faster and easier to write in a unixy enviroment than it > > is in windows... > > .. but maybe a lot more satisfying (and potentially commercial) to > program in windoze? I dunno.... look at the silly money you can get if you know UNIX and C/C++ just check any computer recruitment ad.... > > Windows is more GUI than OS. > > true - but i like it gooey No comment. > > Get fvwm, and you'll > > never tell the difference.... And Linux is **free**. > > yeh you will, cause you can't get all the apps in linux that i like > using... no matter whether you're using fvwm or xwindows or bash... > and windoze is sorta free if it comes with your pc anyway... There's always an equivalent: e.g. Photoshop ---> Gimp Windows free with a PC.... hmmmm... I think not. Perhaps "free" would be more accurate. > > However, consider the ability to write a program on one > > machine and with virtually no modifications run it on a machine with > > a fundamentally different architecture... > > ok, point taken... if that's what i wanted to do. but if i wanted to > make a go of writing software for PCs the chances are there are more > PCs in the world running MS-SHITE than linux anyway And what will you do when Windows 95 is phased out? (which will happen shortly... Microsoft are only continuing with NT)... And what about the IA64 architecture chips which will completely change PCs anyway... Stay versatile, that's what I say.... a PC has a shelf life of about 6 months before it drops in value by a third at the moment... DMZ --- two different viewpoints really. i mean, you don't get adverts for new games that say 'run under Win95 or Red Hat'... so at the moment i'm learning the tools of the trade, from the market's point of view (one day i'll want to make /some/ money outta this programming lark, and while the market seems to be MS-centric then i guess experience in this would prove profitable) dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 19:59:54 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <3629abbd.34d88984@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:30:10 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 780 Lines: 30 In a message dated 04/02/98 12:35:10, you write: >. > >eh? >dunno what you mean. my ATX has jumpers and SeePU bios settings >to change the cpu speed No jumpers (I'm told) and no way to find out as case is locked. Bios is also password protected until machine is out of warranty. > > >look /real/ hard again... there /must/ be some way to change the >processor speed. > >i fail to believe there exist mboards that automatically sense the >cpu and refuse to allow user intervention. which is not to say i >doubt your word... it is instead to say that the manufacturers >must be dicks. Well I thought Intel processors could not be over-clocked these days anyhow - and as they have such an influence on board design.... Now my old 586, that is different. -- Bob. > > >dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 19:59:56 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:29:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@holly To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability In-Reply-To: <9802032252.AA00057@mars.cableol.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 400 Lines: 9 What was 'SAM Amateur Programming and Electronics'? Who was Shane Smith? > > However, while I was looking, I came across the 'SAM Amateur > > Programming and Electronics' issues again. This follows on from a > > thread last year, when Shane Smith declared all his old SAM magazines > > as PD. Anyway, I have issues 2-6, and I was wondering if anyone had > > issue 1, or issue 7 (if there was a 7)? From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 19:59:56 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:32:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@holly To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Derek Morgan - New Game In-Reply-To: <34d6f786.5254731@mail.enterprise.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 468 Lines: 20 On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, David Munden wrote: > Now why would I want to do that:) I have been a bit behind with > reading this list, but I have now nearly caught up. it doesn`t help > that when I do collect my mail that there are so many mails to > collect. I know the feeling . . . is there a way of getting the list in a digest form? Luv, Mark "James Dean was just a careless driver And Marilyn Monroe was just a slag" - Half Man Half Biscuit, 'Sealclubbing' From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 19:59:56 1998 Message-ID: <34D8AB7B.3B07@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 17:55:07 +0000 From: Mark Sturdy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Ledders References: <01bd2f77$c4002740$LocalHost@SPARKY> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 333 Lines: 17 Hi Gavin, Any idea what David Ledbury's doing? I keep trying to email him about something, and he's just not replying - haven't heard from him for quite a few weeks, in fact. Is he still around? -- Luv, Mark "James Dean was just a careless driver And Marilyn Monroe was just a slag" - Half Man Half Biscuit, 'Sealclubbing' From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 20:10:56 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:05:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@holly To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Ledders In-Reply-To: <34D8AB7B.3B07@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 352 Lines: 21 SHIT! Shitting shitting shit. WHY do I keep sending personal emails to the List? Fuck. On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Mark Sturdy wrote: Luv, Mark "James Dean was just a careless driver and Marilyn Monroe was just a slag" From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 20:28:17 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980204151956.0069c8f0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 15:19:56 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability In-Reply-To: References: <9802032252.AA00057@mars.cableol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 646 Lines: 22 At 05:29 PM 2/4/98 +0000, you wrote: >What was 'SAM Amateur Programming and Electronics'? > >Who was Shane Smith? Possibly the best SAM Magazine Ever Made. Think of Based on an Idea...[1] in disk format, and you're pretty close. SHane SMith was the editor. [1] But with different articles. --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 23:12:10 1998 From: PGLOVER43@aol.com Message-ID: <12e8ec0b.34d8f3fa@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:04:22 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: SAM AMATEUR PROGRAMMING (etc.) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1125 Lines: 24 SAM AMATEUR PROGRAMMING & ELECTRONICS (SAP&E for short?) was a SAM disk magazine published/written/programmed by Shane Smith in Ireland. I stumbled on it by accident, and was very impressed with its technical approach, even if I understood little of the subject matter (this statement won't surprise anyone who knows me!) Shane obviously knows the workings of SAM very well indeed, and SAP&E could probably be regarded as a predecessor of BASED ON AN IDEA. I'm not sure if it ran to seven issues, but I certainly have issue one (and a few others) lurking in a disk box somewhere.... Referring to early SAM disks, did anyone encounter ETM? ETM (ENIGMA TAPE MAGAZINE) was a tape magazine specialising in the 128k Spectrum, and also catered for Plus D disk format Spectrums. When SAM came along, ETM was adapted so that it ran on SAM disk, with Spectrum 128k sound, etc. Well worth seeking out as it was well written and had a good sense of humour. I'm not sure if anyone knows who owns the rights to it, but it's be good if it was released on PD. (Still on the subject of SAM disk magazines, HELLO ADIE!) Phil Glover. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 23:31:14 1998 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:40:37 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Ian Dalziel Subject: Re: Ledders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 400 Lines: 17 In article , Mark Sturdy writes >SHIT! > >Shitting shitting shit. > >WHY do I keep sending personal emails to the List? > >Fuck. > 'cos if you reply to something you got FROM the list, the reply's gonna go TO the list, whatever you tell your mailer to do with it. What was the name of this thread again? -- Ian Dalziel From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 23:34:46 1998 From: davidm@enterprise.net (David Munden) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Stratosphere Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 23:30:13 GMT Message-ID: <34d85f23.2267770@mail.enterprise.net> References: <3.0.1.32.19980203085859.0069cef0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> <34de9d43.15019261@mail.enterprise.net> In-Reply-To: <34de9d43.15019261@mail.enterprise.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 459 Lines: 12 On Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:52:35 GMT, you wrote: >Who remembers ROM V1? Jeez, what a nightmare, eh? I remember phoning >to ask why Basic's DRAW TO always crashed when you added the third >parameter, and the girl saying 'Oh, sounds like /you've/ got a faulty >ROM.' Then the horror stories in NCE came out and killed the SAM dead. >Damn those bastards! I remember that. I once phoned Bob and all he said was don`t use that command then. :) _ |_)avid (\/)unden From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Wed Feb 4 23:34:46 1998 From: davidm@enterprise.net (David Munden) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 23:30:16 GMT Message-ID: <34d9610c.2756851@mail.enterprise.net> References: <3.0.1.32.19980203153647.0069dd58@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980203153647.0069dd58@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.0/32.390 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 207 Lines: 11 On Tue, 03 Feb 1998 15:36:47 -0800, you wrote: >>David Mundon? >Arggghhhhh! It's DAVID MUNDEN. Well I must have made a good impression on you then since you spelt my name right. :) _ |_)avid (\/)unden From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 09:35:59 1998 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 08:27:40 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Famous SAM People In-Reply-To: <9802041037.AA13654@asmal.edh-net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id JAA24470 Status: RO Content-Length: 690 Lines: 18 In message <9802041037.AA13654@asmal.edh-net>, Frode Tenneboe writes > Frode Tennebø - Ericsson Radar - various radar control systems These RADARs, do they detect SAMs? ;) (I can't believe I got away with that...) Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 09:48:19 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <002565A2.003540D7.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:43:13 +0000 Subject: Re: Famous SAM People Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 163 Lines: 12 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These RADARs, do they detect SAMs? ;) (I can't believe I got away with that...) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Nor can I... Shame on you! :) Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 10:56:35 1998 Message-ID: <7533DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:24:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no (SAM-USER@SMTP {sam-users@nvg.unit.no}) Subject: RE: Famous SAM People Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id KAA26268 Status: RO Content-Length: 321 Lines: 16 > > Frode Tennebø - Ericsson Radar - various radar control systems > > These RADARs, do they detect SAMs? ;) > > (I can't believe I got away with that...) You haven't. A hooded man is waiting for you in the next room. Dan. Work: dandoore@bacg.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ From imc Thu Feb 5 10:58:48 1998 Subject: Re: Famous SAM People To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:58:48 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <7533DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> from "Dan Doore" at Feb 5, 98 10:24:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 129 Lines: 6 On Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:24:00 +0000, Dan Doore said: > A hooded man is waiting for you in the next room. Is his name Robin? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 11:37:59 1998 Message-Id: <199802051113.MAA14481@mailserv.caiw.nl> From: Robert van der Veeke To: sam-users Subject: Re: Famous SAM People Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:12:36 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 534 Lines: 19 > Van: Ian Collier > Aan: sam-users@nvg.unit.no > Onderwerp: Re: Famous SAM People > Datum: Thursday, February 05, 1998 11:58 > > On Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:24:00 +0000, Dan Doore said: > > A hooded man is waiting for you in the next room. > > Is his name Robin? > Only when a black car with strange wings is parked in front of your house :), oh no that one is masked not hooded. Sorry Ja ne -- Robert van der Veeke, aka RJV Graphics [rjvveeke@caiw.nl] The borderline Express will terminate at this station :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 11:46:56 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <002565A2.003E10A8.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 11:44:09 +0000 Subject: Re: SAM's Super Sexy Sound System Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1482 Lines: 38 Hi folx, For those guys with short memories, this is the thread where I had my plan of joining Quazar Surround sound with SAMs into a pair of speakers through a mixer. However, even though I succesfully got it working, there was a problem in that it wasn't as loud as I hoped coming from a pair of 36watt RMW (120watt PMPO) speakers even though the sound is, IMO, impressively clean. With the speaker's volume turn all the way to max, it's about as loud as i have my telly so I'm not too fussed, personally. I have, since then, discovered WHY the sound going through the mixer isn't as loud as hoped. I chatted to a work colleague here who used to work as a programmer for an audio mixer firm as to why. After I managed to stop him laughing at my computer, he told me the answer. It's all to do with line impendance, apparently. He says that the sound from the computer probably has a line impendence of around 8ohm while the mixer (being a cheap one that it is) is expecting a line impendence of a lot more coming from huge microphones (or something). It kind of makes sense when you think of it that way. Anyway. The sound level is comfortable for me and I love the way i can play with the volume of left/right sound coming from SAM/Quazar Surround when ever I want. (And the speakers make a cool sound when I flick the mixer's on or off switch: PUH-zzzz-hmmm...) David: I'll get this article to you as soon as I written it. (I've been ill/busy over last weekend) Justin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 14:21:46 1998 Message-Id: <199802051416.OAA16264@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:15:38 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-reply-to: <3629abbd.34d88984@aol.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1363 Lines: 30 > No jumpers (I'm told) and no way to find out as case is locked. Bios is also > password protected until machine is out of warranty. ahhh... so not necessarily any thing to do with the manufacturer, but to do with some sort of company policy - i take it this is not a personal purchase? > Well I thought Intel processors could not be over-clocked these days anyhow - > and as they have such an influence on board design.... it is true that, officially, some of the newest production intel chips have the clock multiplier setting fixed inside the chip casing, so i guess that maybe this would lead to mboard manufacturers producing motherboards with no 'clock multiplier' options as they would be chip-specific. however, this would result in a whole stack of mboards that would only work with the latest production runs of intel-only chips. mmmm... possible, but unlikely. maybe i'm just naive, but i think AMD and CYRIX together certainly have a fairly substantial share of the market now, and to produce mboards that would in effect be INCOMPATIBLE with non-intel cpus seems like madness to me. anyway, i thought we were talking about some K6-233 that you had? they don't have the clockspeed hardwired into the cpu hardware, as far as i'm aware, so it must be possible to change it... could you not get hold of the key to the case? ;) dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 14:27:55 1998 Message-Id: <199802051421.OAA17454@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:20:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Drifting further... Windows vs. Linux ( was: Completely off In-reply-to: <199802041425.OAA18027@relais1.orctel.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1193 Lines: 38 > How can a library implement multitasking when it is run as a process? > I fail to see this... the program may multitask internally, but will > not sit alongside anything else. well no, obviously. i think the point of the libs is to implement a pseudo-OS which can then multitask other apps. maybe i'm completely wrong - forget about it > I dunno.... look at the silly money you can get if you know UNIX and C/C++ > just check any computer recruitment ad.... true > Windows free with a PC.... hmmmm... I think not. Perhaps "free" would > be more accurate. i did say 'sorta free' > And what will you do when Windows 95 is phased out? (which will happen > shortly... Microsoft are only continuing with NT)... well, i guess move onto win98 or Nt... they're not that different to win95 as long as you are familiar with Nt's win32 api in the first place > And what about > the IA64 architecture chips which will completely change PCs anyway... mm? the what? > Stay versatile, that's what I say.... a PC has a shelf life of about > 6 months before it drops in value by a third at the moment... by versatile i take it you mean 'know how to program for PCs and for Unix/linux' ... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 15:09:59 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <002565A2.005169BE.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:00:44 +0000 Subject: Re: Drifting further... Windows vs. Linux ( was: Completely off Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 858 Lines: 32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > How can a library implement multitasking when it is run as a process? > I fail to see this... the program may multitask internally, but will > not sit alongside anything else. well no, obviously. i think the point of the libs is to implement a pseudo-OS which can then multitask other apps. maybe i'm completely wrong - forget about it <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I'm sorry, I thought these days DJGPP programming fans used Caldera OpenDOS (Ooops, Caldera DR-DOS, as it's called now) for their multi-tasking needs. I'm sure the DJGPP mailing lists will talk about it. Have a peek at... http://www.caldera.com/dos/ ...or... http://www.deltasoft.com/ ...if you've never heard of its existance before. It's a Y2K compliant, DOS 6.22 compatible, network friendly, and fully multitasking operating system.... (and it's free) Justin. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 15:10:00 1998 X-Authentication-Warning: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk: pyumi owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:07:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Sturdy X-Sender: pyumi@lily To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no cc: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Ledders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 292 Lines: 15 On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Ian Dalziel wrote: > 'cos if you reply to something you got FROM the list, the reply's gonna > go TO the list, whatever you tell your mailer to do with it. Yes. I KNOW. Shut up. Luv, Mark "James Dean was just a careless driver and Marilyn Monroe was just a slag" From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 15:30:50 1998 Message-Id: <199802051521.PAA23881@relais1.orctel.co.uk> From: David Zambonini To: sam-users Subject: Re: Drifting further... Windows vs. Linux ( was: Completely off Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:20:09 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 918 Lines: 29 > > And what will you do when Windows 95 is phased out? (which will happen > > shortly... Microsoft are only continuing with NT)... > > well, i guess move onto win98 or Nt... they're not that different to > win95 as long as you are familiar with Nt's win32 api in the first > place Very true. > > And what about > > the IA64 architecture chips which will completely change PCs anyway... > mm? the what? Could be Intel have decided to water down their ideas and just implement their upcoming "MMX2" instructions instead, but from what I've heard, a completely new instruction set (IA64) could be in use by all new Intel processors by around the year 2000...... > > Stay versatile, that's what I say.... a PC has a shelf life of about > > 6 months before it drops in value by a third at the moment... > > by versatile i take it you mean 'know how to program for PCs and for > Unix/linux' ... Yup. DMZ --- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 18:44:56 1998 Message-ID: <9kdExHAZne20Ewd8@scooter.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:33:29 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Adie Subject: Re: SAM AMATEUR PROGRAMMING (etc.) In-Reply-To: <12e8ec0b.34d8f3fa@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 851 Lines: 26 PGLOVER43@aol.com wrote: >(Still on the subject of SAM disk magazines, HELLO ADIE!) Hmmm. Oh no. That was ages ago. I think I was only 14 or 15 when I started writing SAM mags. If anyone wants to make me reallllllly happy they can buy my funky new music fanzine. Current issue (no. 7) has interviews with Stereophonics, Echo & the Bunnymen, Gold Blade, Travis, Dawn of the Replicants and others. Back issues have featured the likes of China Drum, Geneva, Dweeb, ABC, Urusei Yatsura, My Life Story... Details from the url below. Thankyouverymuch. So. Erm. The SAM Coupe, then... I sold mine ages ago! ;) I actually had an argument, about the SAM, at work with someone a couple of days ago. He said SAM was poo and C64 was bestest. Grrr. -- Adie http://www.scooter.demon.co.uk Blind Youth Fanzine HQ + Travis, Inaura, The Needles From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 18:44:57 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980205132223.006a1eb0@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 13:22:23 -0800 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: SAM AMATEUR PROGRAMMING (etc.) In-Reply-To: <9kdExHAZne20Ewd8@scooter.demon.co.uk> References: <12e8ec0b.34d8f3fa@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 652 Lines: 20 At 04:33 PM 2/5/98 +0000, you wrote: >I actually had an argument, about the SAM, at work with someone a couple >of days ago. He said SAM was poo and C64 was bestest. Grrr. I've always likened the SAM to the opening speech from Battlestar Galactica... You know... the rag-tag bunch thing ;) Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 20:47:26 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 20:39:07 GMT Message-ID: <34ddf034.19748918@mail.enterprise.net> References: <9802032252.AA00057@mars.cableol.net> In-Reply-To: <9802032252.AA00057@mars.cableol.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 417 Lines: 17 On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 22:53:57 +0000, you wrote: [SAP&E] >I've got issue 1 and as far as I can remember there was no issue 7! > >Neil Maynard Is there any chance that you could email a copy over - preferably using 'SAMDISK' to make the image? My machine can't seem to use Teledisk for some strange reason. Then I'll lump it together with the rest and put the whole lot up on NVG for the others. Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 20:47:26 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Derek Morgan - New Game Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 20:39:10 GMT Message-ID: <34dbe7bd.17581615@mail.enterprise.net> References: <8ab33df6.34ca0163@aol.com> <34d04f4a.23625498@mail.enterprise.net> <34d6f786.5254731@mail.enterprise.net> In-Reply-To: <34d6f786.5254731@mail.enterprise.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 572 Lines: 21 On Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:45:31 GMT, you wrote: >On Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:47:31 GMT, you wrote: > >>(this is just a feeble attempt to bait David Munden into making an >>appearance) > >Now why would I want to do that:) I have been a bit behind with >reading this list, but I have now nearly caught up. it doesn`t help >that when I do collect my mail that there are so many mails to >collect. Just goes to show that you aren't collecting and reading the mail enough then. :) BTW, did you ever find an unprotected master copy of Occult Connection? Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 21:49:13 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:43:10 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd327f$0d6fad60$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1430 Lines: 33 >>I've got issue 1 and as far as I can remember there was no issue 7! >> >>Neil Maynard > > Is there any chance that you could email a copy over - preferably > using 'SAMDISK' to make the image? My machine can't seem to use > Teledisk for some strange reason. Then I'll lump it together with the > rest and put the whole lot up on NVG for the others. > > > Bye, > > Dave Whitmore Could you guys stick issues 1 to 7 on NVG please? I didn't get any of them, and would love to see them. By the way Dave, I had loads of problems with Teledisk - I'm sure you have tried these but, it doesn't like a dos prompt (if you are using any version of Windows IIRC) - you must shut down into DOS. It also doesn't like high density disks (with a bit of sellotape over the hole of course), so try to stick to double density. Apparently it doesn't like really fast machines either, although I can't work out why the speed of the CPU should have anything to do with it, but anyway...(please let's not start a thread about teledisk's internal workings ;) Speaking of NVG, can we all try and upload more stuff? And how about we upload the SAM PD library? I mean, if it's true PD, it can go anywhere... Gavin ============================================== Email: gavin.smith@cableol.co.uk IRC: Undernet's #TheLocal (SparkY or SparkYY) #TheLocal webpage: http://www.infj.ulst.ac.uk/~ckh225 ICQ: 5099913 ============================================== From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Thu Feb 5 22:20:08 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01bd327f$0d6fad60$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:10:00 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id WAA11449 Status: RO Content-Length: 1658 Lines: 41 At 9:43 pm +0000 5/2/98, SparkY wrote: >Speaking of NVG, can we all try and upload more stuff? And how about we But not in Teledisk please! Some of us don't have (or want) a PC to run Teledisk on... A Zip compressed Simcoupe .DSK file is easy to use - for some of us - or perhaps somebody could actually use the Sam disk compressor software I wrote last year? I uploaded it to nvg last summer. >upload the SAM PD library? I mean, if it's true PD, it can go anywhere... If I actually had any of my Sam software with me at the moment.... Does anybody happen to have a copy of my ILLUSION PD, from SamPD? It was reviewed in Fred.... "Quite a high quality game for PD ... The best programs on the disk are probably the Pipetris demo and Crystal Quest, both of which are remarkably good ... overall the disk is easily worth the money" - Dean Nicholas It would be interesting to see just how much of it works properly with SimCoupe... (I imagine it'll be okay, most of the programs having been written in Basic and Gamesmaster - with a few of Ian spectrum machine code lobbed in for good measure) I still can't think why MNEMOdemo1 part ii crashes SimCoupe. Oh well... Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ e From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 00:09:15 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980205190338.0069ce3c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 19:03:38 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability In-Reply-To: References: <01bd327f$0d6fad60$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 909 Lines: 25 At 10:10 PM 2/5/98 +0000, you wrote: >But not in Teledisk please! Some of us don't have (or want) a PC to run >Teledisk on... A Zip compressed Simcoupe .DSK file is easy to use - for >some of us - or perhaps somebody could actually use the Sam disk compressor >software I wrote last year? I uploaded it to nvg last summer. Speaking of which, does anyone have the facilities to convert the existing Teledisk files to SimCoupe/Zipped format? >I still can't think why MNEMOdemo1 part ii crashes SimCoupe. Oh well... Because it's too snazzy by half? Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 01:11:42 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980205190338.0069ce3c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> References: <01bd327f$0d6fad60$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:03:28 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id BAA19777 Status: RO Content-Length: 1041 Lines: 27 At 7:03 pm +0000 5/2/98, Simon Cooke wrote: >>I still can't think why MNEMOdemo1 part ii crashes SimCoupe. Oh well... > >Because it's too snazzy by half? Simon, I would never cast doubt on your opinion and I am happy to accept that what you say in this case is totally absolutely unquestionably true. But perhaps it doesn't quite explain the SimCoupe problem? I mean, I'm not necessarily expecting the border or VMPR scrolly effects to work properly under emulation, but that's no reason for the virtual Sam to hang up its boots and die, is it? Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ r From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 01:55:11 1998 Message-ID: <34DADB5D.735F@postmaster.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 01:43:57 -0800 From: David Ledbury Organization: The Foundation for Green Eggs & Ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability References: <01bd327f$0d6fad60$LocalHost@SPARKY> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1019 Lines: 32 Andrew Collier wrote: > > But perhaps it doesn't quite explain the SimCoupe problem? > I mean, I'm not necessarily expecting the border or VMPR scrolly effects to > work properly under emulation, but that's no reason for the virtual Sam to > hang up its boots and die, is it? > > Andrew Hmmmm? It's always been a case of the "Demo Coders" pushing the power of a computer to it's limits to see what it can really do. Perhaps in this case you actually have pushed SimCoupe to it's limits? I hope not, it's a great piece of work - even if this bloody machine won't run it fast enough! BTW My PC has had a bit of a minor death recently - locking me from doing anything much for the past few weeks.... Trouble when you have to travel a fair trot home - getting an engineer out during the week is a bit of a nuisance! Have I missed anything exciting? On a complete off topic thing; has anyone tried those new "heated" can drinks? Tea, Coffee, etc? David PS Nice seeing Gavin, Colin and Neil on the IRC earlier :) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 08:21:24 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 03:11:17 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Stratosphere Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 270 Lines: 14 In a message dated 05/02/98 00:39:41, you write: >! > >I remember that. I once phoned Bob and all he said was don`t use that >command then. :) > _ >|_)avid (\/)unden If you have a command that you know crashes the machine, it would be a bit daft to use it. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 08:21:24 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <2c389497.34dac5ac@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 03:11:22 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2006 Lines: 48 In a message dated 05/02/98 14:54:11, you write: >o > >> No jumpers (I'm told) and no way to find out as case is locked. Bios is >also >> password protected until machine is out of warranty. > >ahhh... so not necessarily any thing to do with the manufacturer, but >to do with some sort of company policy - i take it this is not a >personal purchase? It is, well Format Publications anyway. > > >> Well I thought Intel processors could not be over-clocked these days anyhow >- >> and as they have such an influence on board design.... > >it is true that, officially, some of the newest production intel >chips have the clock multiplier setting fixed inside the chip casing, >so i guess that maybe this would lead to mboard manufacturers >producing motherboards with no 'clock multiplier' options as they >would be chip-specific. however, this would result in a whole stack >of mboards that would only work with the latest production runs of >intel-only chips. mmmm... possible, but unlikely. maybe i'm just >naive, but i think AMD and CYRIX together certainly have a fairly >substantial share of the market now, and to produce mboards that >would in effect be INCOMPATIBLE with non-intel cpus seems like >madness to me. Did not quite follow all of that, but I agree AMD & Cyrix (and a few others) are now giving Intel a run for their money. > >anyway, i thought we were talking about some K6-233 that you had? >they don't have the clockspeed hardwired into the cpu hardware, as >far as i'm aware, so it must be possible to change it... >could you not get hold of the key to the case? ;) Well..... :) Yes, I have (just don't tell my supplier) as I happened to find a key that fitted. But, the board is jumperless so I can't do anything there. Yes, I could short the CMOS and get round the password on the bios but then I risk invalidating the warranty. Never mind. When running Win3.1 it goes like the clappers. I'll get the password when the year is up then I can start playing. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 13:53:40 1998 Message-ID: <9836DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 8:42:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: Stuff on NVG (Was RE: Sim Coupe compatia Importance: High MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 816 Lines: 31 >Speaking of NVG, can we all try and upload more stuff? And how about we Speaking of NVG... Frode - Are you still in charge of the archive? Simon - Are you still doing the archive web front end? We could do with a bit of reorganisation on the archive, some stuff is in strange places, there are too many 'misc' things and worst of all there are no descriptions of what the files are. If an 'ls -lR' (or whatever the unix is for recursive listing) of the archive is posted up, I'm sure we can identify most items, and if not we can find out by downloading them. I'm fully prepared to do this, since the archive is the central, and only, repository of Sam material. Comments or suggestions please. Dan. Work: dandoore@bacg.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 13:53:41 1998 Message-Id: <199802061011.KAA09407@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:11:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-reply-to: <2c389497.34dac5ac@aol.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 915 Lines: 25 > Did not quite follow all of that, but I agree AMD & Cyrix (and a few others) > are now giving Intel a run for their money. ah, don't matter > >could you not get hold of the key to the case? ;) > > Well..... :) Yes, I have (just don't tell my supplier) as I happened to find a > key that fitted. But, the board is jumperless so I can't do anything there. nadgers... > Yes, I could short the CMOS and get round the password on the bios but then I > risk invalidating the warranty. Never mind. When running Win3.1 it goes like > the clappers. I'll get the password when the year is up then I can start > playing. chances are you can use one of the default passwords... provided by the mboard mfacturers in case you forget yr password if it's an award bios i think its AWARD but i'll check... ami bios have something like AMI .... AMI3 is it? i dunno. give em a try (just don't tell anyone i told you...) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 13:53:46 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 12:48:19 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Sam Users Members List X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <5EA1E606EE@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 275 Lines: 10 > That's two women on the list (AFAICT). That and those few dubious > boys. What's it all coming to, I ask? Well, my REAL name is Joanna ;-) Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 13:53:47 1998 From: Paul Walker Message-Id: <199802061325.NAA21693@lupin.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Drifting further... Windows vs. Linux ( was: Completely off In-Reply-To: <002565A2.005169BE.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> from "Justin_Skists@case.co.uk" at "Feb 5, 98 03:00:44 pm" To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:25:57 +0000 (GMT) X-Approved: bill@whitehouse.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 215 Lines: 6 > compatible, network friendly, and fully multitasking operating system.... > (and it's free) It's also rather buggy (or was the last time I looked), and has trouble handling serial ports when multitasking, but.. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 13:53:47 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:37:50 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Drifting further... Windows vs. Linux X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <5F895426D9@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 206 Lines: 8 unsubscribe sam-usersreallyboringwaffleabout pc'sthatidon'tunderstand ;-) Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 13:59:45 1998 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:23:46 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Adie Subject: Re: Stratosphere In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 329 Lines: 13 BrenchleyR@aol.com wrote: >If you have a command that you know crashes the machine, it would be a bit >daft to use it. If the command is SUPPOSED to work but DOESN'T, wouldn't it make sense to fix it rather than say "don't use it"? -- Adie http://www.scooter.demon.co.uk Blind Youth Fanzine HQ + Travis, Inaura, The Needles From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 14:56:54 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206094350.006a4540@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 09:43:50 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19980205190338.0069ce3c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> <01bd327f$0d6fad60$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1188 Lines: 33 At 01:03 AM 2/6/98 +0000, you wrote: >Simon, I would never cast doubt on your opinion and I am happy to accept >that what you say in this case is totally absolutely unquestionably true. > *lol* >But perhaps it doesn't quite explain the SimCoupe problem? >I mean, I'm not necessarily expecting the border or VMPR scrolly effects to >work properly under emulation, but that's no reason for the virtual Sam to >hang up its boots and die, is it? I think this is about the time where we ask Allan to make the next version of the source available (ooh! I might be able to do a Windows version. If I ever learn the blasted OS that is). It'd be nice to have some kind of trace thing on it too, that you could turn on as it gets to the problem point. THinking of which... does it crash SIMCoupe, or just the virtual machine? Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 14:56:55 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206094655.006a6f4c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 09:46:55 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Famous SAM People In-Reply-To: <9802041037.AA13654@asmal.edh-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id OAA04395 Status: RO Content-Length: 1113 Lines: 29 Ah well... I may as well insert myself into this list... > Simon started the ball rolling: > Person - Large Software Company - What they're working on > Chris White - Hookstone Ltd. (via Psygnosis) - Sentinel Returns > Justin Skists - Xenoic Systems - Xenopsys/MIDI Toolkit > Frode Tennebø - Ericsson Radar - various radar control systems > Simon Cooke - netFUSION Inc. - Mainframe capacity planning tools (no, really!) > - Graphic Design > - Marketing > - Java programming > - Trying to fit in some kind of social life. Wayne Coales - Reflections - Working on some PlayStation game or other, no doubt Balor Knight - Probe - ? Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 15:17:46 1998 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 15:59:51 +0100 From: ft@edh.ericsson.se (Frode Tenneboe) Message-Id: <9802061459.AA02621@asmal.edh-net> To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Stuff on NVG (Was RE: Sim Coupe compatia X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1759 Lines: 52 > >Speaking of NVG, can we all try and upload more stuff? And how about we > > Speaking of NVG... > > Frode - Are you still in charge of the archive? Yes... > > Simon - Are you still doing the archive web front end? > > We could do with a bit of reorganisation on the archive, some stuff is in > strange places, there are too many 'misc' things and worst of all there > are no > descriptions of what the files are. > > If an 'ls -lR' (or whatever the unix is for recursive listing) of the > archive is > posted up, I'm sure we can identify most items, and if not we can find > out by > downloading them. An 'ls -lR' is already on nvg. If someone want's it by e-mail, mail me directly. I don't want to send it here as it's about 12K. I'll be more than happy to restructure the archive with a little help from my friends. ;) > > I'm fully prepared to do this, since the archive is the central, and > only, > repository of Sam material. > > Comments or suggestions please. There are still things in temp (moved from incoming) which I have not been able to sort out. There also seem to be disensus on the use of teledisc. If we can agree on a common format, we can start the conversion of old stuff and upload tons of new stuff. I used to use KE-disk for this transferr, ie. I downloaded whatever file I wanted to a MS-DOS formated disk and then I used KE-disk to convert it to SAM format. This was cumbersome and slow. What we need is MS-DOS compability in either an existing DOS or one of the new ones (HDOS, BDOS, etc) so that we can read and write to a FAT formated device (be it hard drive or disk and perhaps even zip), either by autodetection (might be slow) or by an extra directive (SAVE "name" MSDOS start,length). -Frode From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 15:17:46 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980206094655.006a6f4c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> References: <9802041037.AA13654@asmal.edh-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 15:01:03 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Famous SAM People X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id PAA04966 Status: RO Content-Length: 573 Lines: 17 What's Dr Andy Wright doing these days? I know he was working for Atari at one point. Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+  From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 15:17:46 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CASE TECHNOLOGY From: Justin_Skists@case.co.uk To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Message-ID: <002565A3.00527466.00@notes_a.case.co.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 15:01:40 +0000 Subject: Re: Famous SAM People Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 836 Lines: 25 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Simon started the ball rolling: > Person - Large Software Company - What they're working on > Chris White - Hookstone Ltd. (via Psygnosis) - Sentinel Returns > Justin Skists - Xenoic Systems - Xenopsys/MIDI Toolkit > Frode Tenneb? - Ericsson Radar - various radar control systems > Simon Cooke - netFUSION Inc. - Mainframe capacity planning tools (no, really!) > - Graphic Design > - Marketing > - Java programming > - Trying to fit in some kind of social life. Wayne Coales - Reflections - Working on some PlayStation game or other, no doubt Balor Knight - Probe - ? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< oops.. I though we were talking about SAM programming projects.... oh well... justin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 15:17:48 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980206094350.006a4540@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> References: <3.0.1.32.19980205190338.0069ce3c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> <01bd327f$0d6fad60$LocalHost@SPARKY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 15:03:42 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Sim Coupe compatiability X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id PAA04968 Status: RO Content-Length: 770 Lines: 22 At 9:43 am +0000 6/2/98, Simon Cooke wrote: >THinking of which... does it crash SIMCoupe, or just the virtual machine? Just the virtual machine. The only thing I can think of at the moment is that the status port lines might not be staying down for long enough after an interrupt. Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ w From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 18:41:58 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:08:46 GMT+0 Subject: The History Of Sam X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <62093D5FA6@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 894 Lines: 24 Hello, Decided to update my SAM pages (they're not up ther eyet, but they should be by next week) and one of the things I want to write is a pretty comprehensive history of what happened, when it happened and why it happened. Now i realise there will probably be about four versions of every story here, but I was just wondering if people fancied chipping in with some ideas, facts figures etc. Hopefully, i should be able to chart most of the major events in SAMs history from its first release to the present day but some of these things could do with a little embellishment. Any ideas would be really handy (and if you want to send facts, figures, names and scandals privately and anonymously then that's fine by me!) Hope you can help me out... Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 18:41:59 1998 Message-ID: <5LVu5BAMFz20EwPL@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 15:50:36 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Famous SAM People In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980206094655.006a6f4c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id SAA10672 Status: RO Content-Length: 1358 Lines: 30 In message <3.0.1.32.19980206094655.006a6f4c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>, Simon Cooke writes >Ah well... I may as well insert myself into this list... > >> Simon started the ball rolling: >> Person - Large Software Company - What they're working on >> Chris White - Hookstone Ltd. (via Psygnosis) - Sentinel Returns >> Justin Skists - Xenoic Systems - Xenopsys/MIDI Toolkit >> Frode Tennebø - Ericsson Radar - various radar control systems >> Simon Cooke - netFUSION Inc. - Mainframe capacity planning tools (no, >really!) >> - Graphic Design >> - Marketing >> - Java programming >> - Trying to fit in some kind of social life. > Wayne Coales - Reflections - Working on some PlayStation game or other, >no doubt Actually it's a PC game. Called Driver at the moment. Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 18:42:00 1998 From: Matthew Craven Organization: UMIST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:55:03 BST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Slight Query In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19980206094655.006a6f4c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> References: <9802041037.AA13654@asmal.edh-net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-ID: <1E72E348DF@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 118 Lines: 4 Is it possible to download a version of SimCoupe that will run in DOS, without any need for compiling, etc.? Matt. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 18:42:00 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: SAM AMATEUR PROGRAMMING (etc.) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 18:35:46 GMT Message-ID: <34e12b4c.24763494@mail.enterprise.net> References: <12e8ec0b.34d8f3fa@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <12e8ec0b.34d8f3fa@aol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1272 Lines: 33 On Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:04:22 EST, you wrote: Yo Phil, >Referring to early SAM disks, did anyone encounter ETM? ETM (ENIGMA TAPE >MAGAZINE) was a tape magazine specialising in the 128k Spectrum, and also >catered for Plus D disk format Spectrums. I had a few of those. I came across one the other day, but I'll have to do another knee deep in SAM disks search to find the others. I've probably still got the tapes, but I'm buggered if I'm going up in the loft without a better excuse. :) >When SAM came along, ETM was adapted so that it ran on SAM disk, with Spectrum >128k sound, etc. Well worth seeking out as it was well written and had a good >sense of humour. I'm not sure if anyone knows who owns the rights to it, but >it's be good if it was released on PD. Yeah, best of both worlds. Load it into SAM, use that bit, then load it into the Speccy for the other bits. I don't know who owns it, but I'll bet there are a few people who'd love to 'own' it so they could charge us for it. A certain person springs to mind, but... >(Still on the subject of SAM disk magazines, HELLO ADIE!) And that reminds me. I know I've asked you before , but what's the hoping that you'll declare all your Chips and Pump magazines as free? Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 19:15:40 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206140447.006a4518@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 14:04:47 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Stuff on NVG (Was RE: Sim Coupe compatia In-Reply-To: <9802061459.AA02621@asmal.edh-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1157 Lines: 28 At 03:59 PM 2/6/98 +0100, you wrote: >I used to use KE-disk for this transferr, ie. I downloaded whatever >file I wanted to a MS-DOS formated disk and then I used KE-disk to >convert it to SAM format. This was cumbersome and slow. What we need >is MS-DOS compability in either an existing DOS or one of the new ones >(HDOS, BDOS, etc) so that we can read and write to a FAT formated >device (be it hard drive or disk and perhaps even zip), either by >autodetection (might be slow) or by an extra directive (SAVE "name" >MSDOS start,length). Stefan may have code to do that. Also, as an "easy-transfer" method for files, it should be possible to come up with an "MSDOS dummied down" version of the SAMDOS file structure that will handle up to 17 files on a disc, and will work with all systems. Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 19:58:44 1998 From: Gouranga@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:53:36 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Famous SAM People Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 282 Lines: 10 > > What's Dr Andy Wright doing these days? I know he was working for Atari at > one point. > > Andrew > Don't think so. He was definitely at ATD for a few years (they did a lot of work on the hardware and software of Atari's Jaguar). As far as I know, he's still there... From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 20:21:27 1998 X-Sender: asc25@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 20:07:24 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Andrew Collier Subject: Re: Famous SAM People X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mail.comlab.ox.ac.uk id UAA12067 Status: RO Content-Length: 1165 Lines: 30 At 7:53 pm +0000 6/2/98, Gouranga@aol.com wrote: >> >> What's Dr Andy Wright doing these days? I know he was working for Atari at >> one point. > >Don't think so. He was definitely at ATD for a few years (they did a lot of >work on the hardware and software of Atari's Jaguar). As far as I know, he's >still there... Ah, that'll be it. I knew he was working on the Jaguar - I just assummed that meant he was working for Atari. Oh, and if anybody happens to buy Computer Shopper, their February 98 issue contains a cartoon drawn by Mel Croucher, entitled "Great Moments In Computing No. 120: The First Ten Years" which features the Sam robot... I'll scan it when I get time... Andrew --- +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ | Andrew Collier | LOKTLOKTNVS'n'0TTDS'n'3LOKTLOKTYRUAQT1YRUAT3 | | 1B NatSci at Selwyn | ICUQ4LADB4U2R1ICXp2M£UICXp4XTC | | Contact: asc25@cam.ac.uk | 1-0 1-0B9'n'RTB4IOUATUR32NV0 | | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk | ICAG#2?RSVPASAP'nIC.B2KTICQTRIP | +----------------------------+----------------------------------------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Fri Feb 6 20:54:36 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206154915.006a4404@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 15:49:15 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Famous SAM People In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 792 Lines: 25 At 08:07 PM 2/6/98 +0000, you wrote: >Oh, and if anybody happens to buy Computer Shopper, their February 98 issue >contains a cartoon drawn by Mel Croucher, entitled "Great Moments In >Computing No. 120: The First Ten Years" which features the Sam robot... >I'll scan it when I get time... Really? EXCELLENT! Speaking of which... if anyone wants to see the latest BOAI subscription campaign trail photo, I'll email it to them :) Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From imc Sat Feb 7 00:42:21 1998 Subject: Re: Format and Crashed To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:42:21 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "BrenchleyR@aol.com" at Jan 30, 98 06:38:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 914 Lines: 21 On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:38:27 EST, BrenchleyR@aol.com said: > systems, including fly-by-wire systems in a lot of aircraft. The timer chips > used issue an interrupt, lets say at 50th sec, 1 sec, 1min, 1hour, 12hr, 24hr, > week, month, year, century. You can say that if you like but that doesn't necessarily make it true... > This problem is most evident in a controller board that has been used in > around 60% of all automatic washing machines produced in the last 6 or 7 > years. The result on these boards is the machine stops and needs to be emptied > by hand and restarted. So you think my washing machine knows the exact time and date despite the fact that it didn't get plugged into the mains until it was delivered to my house. Did someone go to the trouble of putting a little battery in it to preserve the time? Or am I going to have to have had my machine for 100 years before it goes wrong? imc From imc Sat Feb 7 01:03:36 1998 Subject: Re: Windows 95 Close Button Positioning To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 01:03:36 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980129081148.006bb540@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> from "Simon Cooke" at Jan 29, 98 08:11:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 551 Lines: 14 On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:11:48 -0800, Simon Cooke said: > At 11:06 AM 1/29/98 +0000, you wrote: > > . The Win95 general appearance is nicer > >than Win3.1, although its stability is laughable and I only use it because > >certain software companies seem to think it's the only system which > >exists. > Because Microsoft have made the API's an order of magnitude better in Win95 > -- and it's flat 32-bit. That still doesn't mean it is the only system which exists. Both OS/2 and Linux are also 32-bit, you know. imc From imc Sat Feb 7 01:05:14 1998 Subject: Re: Text editor - little project for someone? To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 01:05:14 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <34d2245c.20886166@mail.enterprise.net> from "Dave" at Jan 30, 98 07:25:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 334 Lines: 10 On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:25:49 GMT, Dave said: > On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:59:30 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: > >I have "less" for viewing text files. Officially it's only half finished, > >but that looks like remaining so until the end of time... > and damn good it is too! Did I put out a version of less then? I can't remember... imc From imc Sat Feb 7 01:11:53 1998 Subject: Re: Text editor - little project for someone? To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 01:11:53 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Collier" at Jan 31, 98 00:17:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 761 Lines: 16 On Sat, 31 Jan 1998 00:17:43 +0000, Andrew Collier said: > At 11:57 pm +0000 30/1/98, Simon Cooke wrote: > >ps. Thinking about maybe adding wider functionality to the DSK format... or > >adding another one. Will talk to Allan soon about this. Might mean you can > >run Prince of Persia on it ;) > I'd guess it's better to invent a new format rather than change the > existing one - especially since the .DSK files are just the files you get > from a standard operation on linux. It's all extra work for Allan though.... There is already a file format called DSK (confusing, eh?) which contains disk formatting information, and it's used for +3 and Amstrad emulators. Can't give you a URL offhand but I believe the site it's on belongs to a Kev Thacker. imc From imc Sat Feb 7 01:15:41 1998 Subject: Re: Completely off topic AMD stuff (was Format and their selecti To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 01:15:41 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <199802031352.NAA25823@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> from "Dave Hooper" at Feb 3, 98 01:52:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 551 Lines: 13 On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:52:30 +0000, Dave Hooper said: > > Once you've used it, you'll never want to use anything else.... > well, strictly speaking, this is an untruth. > for example, put it this way. i've used linux. i still use win95. Perhaps, by the way, since you seem to be into win95, you could tell me why, at random times, when I try to boot Win95 it says "bypassing your startup files" and boots into safe mode, whereupon when I immediately ask it to reboot it does it properly, except that it thrashes the disk a lot more than usual? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 03:32:33 1998 From: PGLOVER43@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 20:13:08 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: SAM AMATEUR PROGRAMMING (etc.) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 168 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1447 Lines: 26 Referring to Dave Whitmore's comments about CHIPS and PUMP Sam disk magazines by Adie, I admit to liking them and it'd be good to bung them out as PD disks. Adie may not be too pleased with them as she's probably moved on to better things, but they are a part of SAM history, and she did a fine job of producing disk magazines from scratch. Adie was only 15 (or so) when she produced both magazines, but she's in the elite group of SAM users who added to the general amount of SAM magazines/software in existence, and was a positive force in the SAM world, whatever she may think of the content in retrospect. SAM has never received much support from commercial set-ups, so any support from keen amateurs has always been important, whatever their interest. Dave Whitmore and myself (with the help of David Munden and many others) promoted SAM as a good machine for adventures with thirteen issues of our club disk, whereas other magazines catered for programming, music and arcade gaming. FRED and SAM SUPPLEMENT have both managed to support SAM for years, and all such magazines deserve credit for helping SAM. FORMAT readers may be unaware of many of these successful/unsuccessful SAM disk magazines that have appeared over the years, but they have all helped add to the reputation of SAM. It'd be good if they could be tracked down and released as PD for everyone to look at and enjoy. - Phil Glover (after a late night at the Anchor Inn) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 03:32:35 1998 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 01:48:37 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sturdy To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Enigma In-Reply-To: <34e12b4c.24763494@mail.enterprise.net> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: pyumi@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 439 Lines: 11 On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Dave wrote: > Yeah, best of both worlds. Load it into SAM, use that bit, then load > it into the Speccy for the other bits. I don't know who owns it, but > I'll bet there are a few people who'd love to 'own' it so they could > charge us for it. A certain person springs to mind, but... If memory serves, it was edited by someone called Jon Rose, who now writes for Crashed. I'll ask him what the situation is. Mark From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 03:32:36 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206221554.006a74a4@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 22:15:54 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Completely off topic AMD stuff (was Format and their selecti In-Reply-To: <199802070115.BAA02113@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <199802031352.NAA25823@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 831 Lines: 24 At 01:15 AM 2/7/98 +0000, you wrote: >Perhaps, by the way, since you seem to be into win95, you could tell me >why, at random times, when I try to boot Win95 it says "bypassing your >startup files" and boots into safe mode, whereupon when I immediately ask >it to reboot it does it properly, except that it thrashes the disk a lot >more than usual? I think you'll find that that behaviour correlates with the phase of the moon. Check out knowledgebase article Q666. ;) Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 03:32:37 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206221412.0069dae8@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 22:14:12 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Windows 95 Close Button Positioning In-Reply-To: <199802070103.BAA02013@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <3.0.1.32.19980129081148.006bb540@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1047 Lines: 29 At 01:03 AM 2/7/98 +0000, you wrote: >> Because Microsoft have made the API's an order of magnitude better in Win95 >> -- and it's flat 32-bit. > >That still doesn't mean it is the only system which exists. Both OS/2 and >Linux are also 32-bit, you know. I know... but you have to go with what'll make money, y'kno? Most so-called System Administrators would run a mile if faced with a Linux install. *sigh* Basically, Microsoft O/S platforms are in 90% (if not more) of the machines in use in business today. It'd be ludicrous, stupid, and most companies would go out of business very quickly if they supported the other platforms as well. Most /smaller/ companies, that is. *sigh* Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 03:32:38 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206222210.006a583c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 22:22:10 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: New SAM Logo online Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 709 Lines: 23 BTW: Dunno if you've noticed on the webring pages, but there's a new SAM Logo up there. Now, don't nick it all at once ;) If you want a copy, I can give you it in Adobe Illustrator, Encapsulated Postscript and Chunky Pel formats if you'd like :) Or of course, you could just use the one on the site. Simon ps. One of those formats was made up. Honest. --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 03:32:39 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980206222458.006a80a8@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 22:24:58 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Zoiks! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 665 Lines: 23 Hmmm...seems that Microsoft aren't averse to releasing their FrontPage Web Server Extensions for Linux systems -- presumably they work as CGI-Bin components. How groovy. They well and truly seem to be moving into the Unix market. Presumably to annoy Sun. After all, why else release IE4 on Solaris? ;) Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 10:30:07 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Famous SAM People Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 10:22:59 GMT Message-ID: <34ed7ba1.29570579@mail.enterprise.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 578 Lines: 23 On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:53:36 EST, you wrote: Hiya Colin, >> What's Dr Andy Wright doing these days? I know he was working for Atari at >> one point. >> >> Andrew >> > >Don't think so. He was definitely at ATD for a few years (they did a lot of >work on the hardware and software of Atari's Jaguar). As far as I know, he's >still there... Why don't you tell the peeps what you are up to? I only realised that your 'place' was pretty local to where you live the other day when I saw a thread about 'David Jones' (not the Magic Knight one) in CSS. Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 13:26:56 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Text editor - little project for someone? Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:17:42 GMT Message-ID: <34dc45e2.4200960@mail.enterprise.net> References: <199802070105.BAA02036@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <199802070105.BAA02036@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 298 Lines: 14 On Sat, 7 Feb 1998 01:05:14 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: >> >I have "less" for viewing text files. Officially it's only half finished, >> and damn good it is too! > >Did I put out a version of less then? I can't remember... Yes. You told me where it was on NVG, remember? :) Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 13:26:56 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Enigma Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:17:44 GMT Message-ID: <34dd4960.5094570@mail.enterprise.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 414 Lines: 18 On Sat, 7 Feb 1998 01:48:37 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >If memory serves, it was edited by someone called Jon Rose, who now >writes for Crashed. I'll ask him what the situation is. > >Mark > Ah yeah, that's right. He was one of the team. I should have remembered that, because he used to write the odd column fo the Adventure club. He probably wont remember me, but say I said hello anyway. Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 13:26:56 1998 Message-ID: <34DCCBEB.1359@postmaster.co.uk> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:02:35 -0800 From: David Ledbury Organization: The Foundation for Green Eggs & Ham X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Famous SAM People References: <9802041037.AA13654@asmal.edh-net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 283 Lines: 12 Andrew Collier wrote: > > What's Dr Andy Wright doing these days? I know he was working for Atari at > one point. > Last I heard he was working for ATD - Attention To Detail - who did CyberMorph for the Jaguar. Still think ATD are going, but don't know what they are up to now. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 13:32:15 1998 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 01:44:54 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Adie Subject: Re: SAM AMATEUR PROGRAMMING (etc.) In-Reply-To: <34e12b4c.24763494@mail.enterprise.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 367 Lines: 16 Dave wrote: >And that reminds me. I know I've asked you before , but what's >the hoping that you'll declare all your Chips and Pump magazines as >free? nae chance. :P I'll bite your knees off it you suggest such a thing ever again. -- Adie http://www.scooter.demon.co.uk Blind Youth Fanzine HQ + Travis, Inaura, The Needles From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 13:32:15 1998 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 02:11:51 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Adie Subject: Re: SAM AMATEUR PROGRAMMING (etc.) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1560 Lines: 36 PGLOVER43@aol.com wrote: >Adie was only 15 (or so) when she produced both magazines, For the record, I am now 20. :O > but she's in the >elite group of SAM users who added to the general amount of SAM >magazines/software in existence, and was a positive force in the SAM world, >whatever she may think of the content in retrospect. I don't want them out as PD. If anyone wants to read them they should've bought them at the time. :P Bearing that in mind, maybe you should all invest in 'Blind Youth' fanzine - if you reckon you're into 'new' music and want something better than the NME/MM/Select/Vox/Q but not quite as good as Smash Hits or Loaded ;) - before they all go toooooo. Still have lots of issues 6 and 7 left (both had print runs of 300) but not so many of older issues. Available in shops in Aberdeen and Glasgow, and soon (if all goes to plan) London, Bristol, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Manchester... I'm just embarassed by most of what I wrote in Chips/Pump and I'd rather they were shoved under the carpet or used as beer mats or something. Some of the games were quite amusing. One of my games ('Mog and Dog') was featured in 'Fred' (can't remember which issue). Best thing was getting reviewed in 'Your Sinclair' cos I'd been reading that magazine since September 1987. :) I will finish this early-morning email by saying PLEASE VISIT MY WEB PAGE(S) AND SIGN MY GUEST BOOK(S). OR I WILL CRY. PS. OT: Go and see 'Starship Troopers', 'cos it's fab. -- Adie http://www.scooter.demon.co.uk Blind Youth Fanzine HQ + Travis, Inaura, The Needles From imc Sat Feb 7 14:10:25 1998 Subject: Re: Text editor - little project for someone? To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 14:10:25 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <34dc45e2.4200960@mail.enterprise.net> from "Dave" at Feb 7, 98 01:17:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 288 Lines: 9 On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:17:42 GMT, Dave said: > >Did I put out a version of less then? I can't remember... > Yes. You told me where it was on NVG, remember? :) [checks the archive] Oh yes, in Oct 1996. :-) Apparently in utils/misc, although nvg is refusing connections right now. imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 14:48:16 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 7 Feb 98 14:41:29 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Stuff on NVG (Was RE: Sim Coupe compatia Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1011 Lines: 43 On Fri 6 Feb 98 (15:59:51 +0100), ft@edh.ericsson.se wrote: >> >Speaking of NVG, can we all try and upload more stuff? And how about >we >> [snip] >been able to sort out. > >There also seem to be disensus on the use of teledisc. If we can >agree on a common format, we can start the conversion of old stuff Can't we use PKZIP. Or just use rumsofts PAK? Just a thought. I'm sure I'll get flamed for suggesting it. >and upload tons of new stuff. Great - I can't wait. > >I used to use KE-disk for this transferr, ie. I downloaded whatever [snip] > -Frode > > -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ * * * NEW - Stewart's SAM Information Pages. * * * http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 15:37:29 1998 Message-ID: <8B39DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:18:00 +0000 From: Dan Doore Organization: * To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no (Sam Users Mailing List) Subject: RE: Stuff on NVG (Was RE: Sim Coupe comp Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.30A MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1236 Lines: 37 > >There also seem to be disensus on the use of teledisc. If we can0 > >agree on a common format, we can start the conversion of old stuff > > Can't we use PKZIP. Or just use rumsofts PAK? Just a thought. PAK is a pain in the arse, it's unreliable and it means a lot of fiddling to get it into, say SimCoupe. Given that Teledisk works only on PC and not on *any* of the Pentuim machines I have at work, this is a bad thing. DSK (as in plain Sam Disc image) can be created and read on multiple platforms and will go straight into SimCoupe. Only disadvantage is that it contains no formatting information which is the handy thing in Teledisk (although Teledisk will not copy protected discs like Lemmings et al) Teledisk's internal compression is pretty poor, PKZIP is a better, and can be read on most platforms. I suggest PKZIP'ed DSK files as the best format for disc images on NVG in the current climate. Single files and small buches of files are more of a problem, and much as I hate it, .PAK seems to be the only native SAM archive utility. > I'm sure I'll get flamed for suggesting it. I'm more likely to get it now :-) Dan. Work: dandoore@bacg.com Shirk: dan@podboy.demon.co.uk VVeb: http://www.podboy.demon.co.uk/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 16:06:30 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Sat, 7 Feb 98 15:56:22 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Announcement Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 750 Lines: 27 Hi Folks, I am proudly (?) announcing the release of my new SAM pages. A bit bare at the moment, but I will try and add to them as often as possible. The pages contain .DSK images for Sim Coupe, and I do hope that they are all legal :-) I'm sure that one of you will let me know if they aren't. Stewart -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ * * * NEW - Stewart's SAM Information Pages. * * * http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 16:21:43 1998 Message-Id: <199802071617.QAA15503@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 16:17:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Slight Query References: <3.0.1.32.19980206094655.006a6f4c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> In-reply-to: <1E72E348DF@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 384 Lines: 14 > Is it possible to download a version of SimCoupe that will run in > DOS, without any need for compiling, etc.? unh.. sure... did you go to the webpage? http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ajs/simcoupe/simcbin.zip i guess you could probably also download the 'boot and root' linux binary to run under dos but i don't understand these things so don't bother trying unless you do. dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 16:33:58 1998 Message-Id: <199802071631.QAA16229@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 16:31:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Announcement In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 177 Lines: 10 http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/games/surp.html actually, the maximum number of balls was 4096 well, it wasn't really. there was only ever one ball. dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 19:07:17 1998 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 18:20:04 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Famous SAM People In-Reply-To: <34DCCBEB.1359@postmaster.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 954 Lines: 27 In message <34DCCBEB.1359@postmaster.co.uk>, David Ledbury writes >Andrew Collier wrote: >> >> What's Dr Andy Wright doing these days? I know he was working for Atari at >> one point. >> > >Last I heard he was working for ATD - Attention To Detail - who did >CyberMorph for the >Jaguar. > >Still think ATD are going, but don't know what they are up to now. ATD? I think they're dead close to me, just outside Stratford. Makes sense since Dr A lives in Brum, righty? Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 19:51:15 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Stuff on NVG (Was RE: Sim Coupe comp Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 19:37:27 GMT Message-ID: <34e5b6c4.33103561@mail.enterprise.net> References: <8B39DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8B39DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1183 Lines: 39 On Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:18:00 +0000, you wrote: Dan wrote: >Only disadvantage is that it contains no formatting information which >is the handy thing in Teledisk (although Teledisk will not copy protected >discs like Lemmings et al) Is that right? :) The Amiga's Xcopy will copy /any/ SAM disk. Then again, you can`t transfer the image to anything but another disk on the same machine. >I suggest PKZIP'ed DSK files as the best format for disc images on >NVG in the current climate. I'll go along with that. Top idea. >Single files and small buches of files are more of a problem, and much >as I hate it, .PAK seems to be the only native SAM archive utility. If we had some kind of PC program that could add or take files from the DSK files, then I'd see nothing wrong with PAK files. They could be copied to a DSK file before putting back on SAM. >> I'm sure I'll get flamed for suggesting it. > >I'm more likely to get it now :-) Noooooo, you`re both right. We just need another program for manipulating DSK files. I'm sure that it could be done. I have the gist of what needs to be done, it`s just that I can't do it cos I'm not a programmer. :( Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 21:01:17 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980207155334.0069e690@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 15:53:34 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Stuff on NVG (Was RE: Sim Coupe comp In-Reply-To: <34e5b6c4.33103561@mail.enterprise.net> References: <8B39DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> <8B39DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1049 Lines: 28 At 07:37 PM 2/7/98 GMT, you wrote: >>Only disadvantage is that it contains no formatting information which >>is the handy thing in Teledisk (although Teledisk will not copy protected >>discs like Lemmings et al) Interestingly (or not - you decide), the Lemmings disk format is surprisingly similar to the Parallax one. Probably because I designed it. 5 sectors, 1K long each one. Plus one 512 byte sector. Per track. 82 tracks on the disk... 2 sides... lets you squeeze an astounding 902K per disk. It is possible to get 960K -- I just can't quite remember how at the moment. Damn. Sure I've got it written down somewhere. Copies surprisingly well using the Parallax copier program :) Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sat Feb 7 21:03:48 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980207155721.0069c838@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 15:57:21 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Announcement In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1024 Lines: 28 Ummm.. Stewart... chronologically speaking, you've got it all topsy turvy. Interesting (?) details. o Author : Lord Insanity / The Lords (David Gommeren) o Date : 1990? o Appeared on FRED issue 3, and later on the Your Sinclair cover tape 'The Magnificent Seven' September 1992 Issue 81. o Then packaged along with new SAM Coupes on a disc by itself by SAM Computers Ltd. The thing is, it must have been packaged with new SAM Coupes before Sept. 1992, issue 81. I started writing for it in issue 83... Which came out in October 1992. Sooo... two months before that is August... which is (if you were following a previous thread closely) after SAMCo went down. Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 00:11:12 1998 From: davewhitmore@enterprise.net (Dave) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: SAM AMATEUR PROGRAMMING (etc.) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 00:02:02 GMT Message-ID: <34e8bbc2.34381733@mail.enterprise.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 515 Lines: 23 On Sat, 7 Feb 1998 01:44:54 +0000, you wrote: >Dave wrote: > >>And that reminds me. I know I've asked you before , but what's >>the hoping that you'll declare all your Chips and Pump magazines as >>free? > >nae chance. > >:P > >I'll bite your knees off it you suggest such a thing ever again. And that reminds me. I know I've asked you before , but what's the hoping that you'll declare all your Chips and Pump magazines as free? Come on then! :) Bye, Dave Whitmore From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 01:17:09 1998 From: SparkY To: sam-users Subject: Re: SAM AMATEUR PROGRAMMING (etc.) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 01:14:15 -0000 Message-Id: <01bd342e$df9d2640$0e14a8c2@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 303 Lines: 14 >>I'll bite your knees off it you suggest such a thing ever again. > > And that reminds me. I know I've asked you before , but what's >the hoping that you'll declare all your Chips and Pump magazines as >free? > >Come on then! :) > >Bye, > >Dave Whitmore Yeeeeeeees! Flirting in sam-users! :)) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 12:12:24 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 8 Feb 98 10:56:41 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Announcement Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1355 Lines: 48 On Sat 7 Feb 98 (15:57:21 +0000), scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk wrote: >Ummm.. Stewart... chronologically speaking, you've got it all topsy >turvy. > Umm....Yep, VERY silly of me. :-) Ooops Will check it all. >Interesting (?) details. > >o Author : Lord Insanity / The Lords (David Gommeren) >o Date : 1990? >o Appeared on FRED issue 3, and later on the Your Sinclair cover tape >'The Magnificent Seven' September 1992 Issue 81. >o Then packaged along with new SAM Coupes on a disc by itself by SAM >Computers Ltd. > >The thing is, it must have been packaged with new SAM Coupes before >Sept. 1992, issue 81. I started writing for it in issue 83... Which >came out in October 1992. Sooo... two months before that is August... >which is (if you were following a previous thread closely) after SAMCo >went down. Should have put 'It was also....' > >Simon >--- >Simon Thanks Simon. I feel VERY silly now! Stewart > -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ * * * NEW - Stewart's SAM Information Pages. * * * http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 12:12:24 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Sun, 8 Feb 98 10:59:30 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: Announcement Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 894 Lines: 30 Hello fellow SAM users, Firstly, I would like to thank everyone who has given me their advice on my new pages, which has been much appreciated. Many of you have suggested some excellent ideas for changes, and some have pointed out some very silly mistakes on my part. (Simon.) An update will take place at some point today, and I will let you all know when it is done so that you can all go mistake hunting again later. :-) Thanks again, Stewart -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ * * * NEW - Stewart's SAM Information Pages. * * * http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 15:25:31 1998 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 15:21:24 +0000 (GMT) From: D A Fulton To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: RE: Stuff on NVG (Was RE: Sim Coupe comp In-Reply-To: <8B39DA3001F73000@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 402 Lines: 9 > Given that Teledisk works only on PC and not on *any* of the Pentuim > machines I have at work, this is a bad thing. Strange, it's always worked on my P90. SAMDISK, on the other hand, halts with errors just about every time. I've tried running it under DOS 6 as well as just about every method available in Win 95. Am I the only one who finds this program incredibly hard to get to work? Dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 16:28:41 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Sun, 8 Feb 98 16:19:34 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: A few questions Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 763 Lines: 29 Hello everyone, In my quest to add to and update my new SAM pages, I have come across a few questions that I feel are important. I would be pleased to hear from anyone who can shed a bit of light on them. 1) Who owns the rights to Astroball? 2) Who owns the rights to Vegetable Vacation? Thanks in advance. Stewart -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ * * * NEW - Stewart's SAM Information Pages. * * * http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 18:42:09 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: sskardon@argonet.co.uk (Stewart Skardon) To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Date: Sun, 8 Feb 98 18:37:29 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Web page update Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 770 Lines: 28 hello people. I've just updated my SAM pages. there are now demos of Manic Miner, vegetable vacation and Astroball there, as well as some new graphics in places, and a Thank you page, dedicated to everyone has given some input to this project. Look for yourself at http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ Stewart -- _ (_'tewart email : sskardon@argonet.co.uk ,_)kardon http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/stewart/ * * * NEW - Stewart's SAM Information Pages. * * * http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ Crashed Magazine - The SAM Coupe and ZX Spectrum Magazine. Crashed WWW Site http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon Crashed Email - crashed@argonet.co.uk From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 20:15:57 1998 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ILGW @ C&L NL @ C&L INT @ C&L INT EXTERNAL@INTERLIANT @ OUTBOUND From: Stefan Drissen To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Message-ID: <862565A5.006DB75E.00@internet-503.interliant.com> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:46:02 +0100 Subject: Re: Stuff on NVG (Was RE: Sim Coupe compatia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1667 Lines: 45 >>(HDOS, BDOS, etc) so that we can read and write to a FAT formated >>device (be it hard drive or disk and perhaps even zip), either by >>autodetection (might be slow) or by an extra directive (SAVE "name" >>MSDOS start,length). > >Stefan may have code to do that. Mmmmm. I've got the code to read FAT discs / SAM discs (as used in the SAM MOD player - and ripped to used in Martijn's WAV player). I could never be bothered to do the write routines though. If anyone want's the code... >Also, as an "easy-transfer" method for files, it should be possible to come >up with an "MSDOS dummied down" version of the SAMDOS file structure that >will handle up to 17 files on a disc, and will work with all systems. Um, I beg your pardon? >Simon Stefan -- **************************************** This document should only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed and is not intended to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of its contents. Accordingly, Coopers & Lybrand disclaim all responsibility and accept no liability (including in negligence) for the consequences for any person acting, or refraining from acting, on such information prior to the receipt by those persons of subsequent written confirmation. 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Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. **************************************** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 20:15:58 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980208150853.006ab238@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 15:08:53 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: Stuff on NVG (Was RE: Sim Coupe compatia In-Reply-To: <862565A5.006DB75E.00@internet-503.interliant.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1277 Lines: 31 At 09:46 PM 2/7/98 +0100, you wrote: >>Also, as an "easy-transfer" method for files, it should be possible to >come >>up with an "MSDOS dummied down" version of the SAMDOS file structure that >>will handle up to 17 files on a disc, and will work with all systems. >Um, I beg your pardon? Well... MSDOS systems /can/ handle 9 sectors-per-track disks -- but not 10 sectors per track. So, simply, we use an 80 track disk, 9 sectors per track, and with that we can fit 17 file maps into the directory (plus a blank one for end-of-directory so that MasterDOS and SAMDOS don't crash when they try to read Sector 10 and can't -- though I can't remember, it might be just MAsterDOS that does this). Careful programming of the write and read routines will allow you to fill this disk with SAM stuff from a PC machine, and as long as you don't write to it from the SAM, it'll work fine -- even if it was formatted on the PC. Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 21:36:29 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <6a809dde.34de2365@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:28:02 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Format and Crashed Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1765 Lines: 45 In a message dated 07/02/98 01:04:31, you write: >o > >On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:38:27 EST, BrenchleyR@aol.com said: >> systems, including fly-by-wire systems in a lot of aircraft. The timer >chips >> used issue an interrupt, lets say at 50th sec, 1 sec, 1min, 1hour, 12hr, >24hr, >> week, month, year, century. > >You can say that if you like but that doesn't necessarily make it true... And you can disagree with it, but that does not necessarily make it false :) > >> This problem is most evident in a controller board that has been used in >> around 60% of all automatic washing machines produced in the last 6 or 7 >> years. The result on these boards is the machine stops and needs to be >emptied >> by hand and restarted. > >So you think my washing machine knows the exact time and date despite the >fact that it didn't get plugged into the mains until it was delivered >to my house. Did someone go to the trouble of putting a little battery >in it to preserve the time? Therein is the problem. Some washing machine manufactures reset the boards during fitting - ALL manuafactures now tell service engineers to reset the boards whenever they get their hands on a machine. This means that instead of boards failing all at once, the faliers will be spread over up to 20 years - but with most of them being in the 2000 to 2004 time frame according to the experts. > >Or am I going to have to have had my machine for 100 years before it goes >wrong? > >imc As I've said, the reality of the Y2K problem will not be known until the year 2000. But don't you think it makes sence to plan to avoid the worst problems? Given the number of chips involved in modern planes will you be prepared to take your chance and fly during the first few days of 2000? -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 21:36:30 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <1c06a4de.34de2360@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:27:58 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Stratosphere Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 379 Lines: 15 In a message dated 06/02/98 18:53:48, you write: >BrenchleyR@aol.com wrote: > >>If you have a command that you know crashes the machine, it would be a bit >>daft to use it. > >If the command is SUPPOSED to work but DOESN'T, wouldn't it make sense >to fix it rather than say "don't use it"? Well they did, in the end. It was just on the version 1 ROM it didn't work. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Sun Feb 8 21:36:31 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:28:04 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Completely off topic AMD stuff (was Format and their selecti Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 676 Lines: 20 In a message dated 07/02/98 03:35:18, you write: >On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:52:30 +0000, Dave Hooper said: >> > Once you've used it, you'll never want to use anything else.... > >> well, strictly speaking, this is an untruth. >> for example, put it this way. i've used linux. i still use win95. > >Perhaps, by the way, since you seem to be into win95, you could tell me >why, at random times, when I try to boot Win95 it says "bypassing your >startup files" and boots into safe mode, whereupon when I immediately ask >it to reboot it does it properly, except that it thrashes the disk a lot >more than usual? > >imc Which service release of Windoze'95 are you using? -- Bob. From imc Mon Feb 9 11:52:06 1998 Subject: Re: Web page update To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:52:06 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Stewart Skardon" at Feb 8, 98 06:37:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 394 Lines: 17 On Sun, 8 Feb 98 18:37:29, Stewart Skardon said: > Look for yourself at > http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ I did, but I didn't find myself. >Thank you's. >Basically, without them, these pages would be full of stupid >mistakes, typo's...The list goes on. Arrgh! And while we're at it, could the owner of Persona's web page remove some apostrophes from that as well? imc From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 12:55:50 1998 From: Matthew Craven Organization: UMIST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:42:56 BST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: SimCoupe In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19980125152747.006a5e44@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> References: <3.0.1.32.19980125152422.0068cd3c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-ID: <399CA3D27@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 185 Lines: 7 Help - I downloaded the binary version of SimCoupe and cannot get it to work - all it says is file too big for memory in whatever memory configuration I try. Can anyone help? Matt. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 19:21:53 1998 From: BrenchleyR@aol.com Message-ID: <7c85a5a8.34df1610@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:43:26 EST To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: A few questions Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5.i for Windows sub 18 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 339 Lines: 15 In a message dated 08/02/98 16:29:31, you write: >I would be pleased to hear from anyone who can shed a bit of light on them. > >1) Who owns the rights to Astroball? >2) Who owns the rights to Vegetable Vacation? > >Thanks in advance Revelation AFAIK. Astroball for sure, as that was an outright purchase from the liquidator. -- Bob. From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 19:21:54 1998 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:06:15 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Graham Goring Subject: Re: Web page update In-Reply-To: <199802091152.LAA05831@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <8OHKkEUpoELRXgFKFsA4hwDBr8> X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1001 Lines: 30 In message <199802091152.LAA05831@chalca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Ian Collier writes >On Sun, 8 Feb 98 18:37:29, Stewart Skardon said: >> Look for yourself at >> http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sskardon/sampages/ > >I did, but I didn't find myself. > >>Thank you's. > >>Basically, without them, these pages would be full of stupid >>mistakes, typo's...The list goes on. > >Arrgh! > >And while we're at it, could the owner of Persona's web page remove some >apostrophes from that as well? Th'ey Ann'oy th'e hell outta' yo'u hu'h? Graham -- /====================================================\ +--------------+ | My proverb for this week: | |This Space For| | "The less bits, the less can go wrong... | | Hire - Ideal | | Unless you wobble something important at the back" | |For Weddings &| \==Graham Goring - graham@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk==/ | Bahmitzvas | My Website, coming to a server near you - SOON +--------------+ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 19:21:54 1998 Message-Id: <199802091525.PAA09510@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:25:29 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: SimCoupe References: <3.0.1.32.19980125152747.006a5e44@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> In-reply-to: <399CA3D27@fs1.ma.umist.ac.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 272 Lines: 8 > Help - I downloaded the binary version of SimCoupe and cannot get it > to work - all it says is file too big for memory in whatever memory > configuration I try. are you running in dos or windows or win95 or NT? and how much free memory do you have (mem /c /p) dave From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 21:17:19 1998 From: Martin Rookyard To: sam-users Subject: Re: Format and Crashed Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 00:37:19 -0000 Message-ID: <01bd34f2$e138adc0$0100007f@adiemus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 955 Lines: 30 -----Original Message----- From: BrenchleyR@aol.com To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: 08 February 1998 21:39 Subject: Re: Format and Crashed >In a message dated 07/02/98 01:04:31, you write: >As I've said, the reality of the Y2K problem will not be known until the year >2000. But don't you think it makes sence to plan to avoid the worst problems? >Given the number of chips involved in modern planes will you be prepared to >take your chance and fly during the first few days of 2000? > >-- >Bob. > As I understand it we could be seeing the first hints of trouble in about 10 months time. Some programmers, I believe, from the 'Sod off! this machine will not be running in ten years time' era, used 99 (1999) as a wild card or for other special purposes. I wonder if IT managers have thought of this one or do they still think they will have 22 months (as most will but some will not). S:-) Martin From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 21:17:33 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:06:26 GMT+0 Subject: Re: Slight Query X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 408 Lines: 14 > > Is it possible to download a version of SimCoupe that will run in > > DOS, without any need for compiling, etc.? > > > unh.. sure... did you go to the webpage? > > http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~ajs/simcoupe/simcbin.zip Will this run from a dos prompt in Windows 3.1 then? Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 21:17:33 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:15:50 GMT+0 Subject: Re: A few questions X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 540 Lines: 25 > In a message dated 08/02/98 16:29:31, you write: > > >I would be pleased to hear from anyone who can shed a bit of light on them. > > > >1) Who owns the rights to Astroball? > >2) Who owns the rights to Vegetable Vacation? > > > >Thanks in advance > > Revelation AFAIK. Okay, and now for a slightly harder question to answer... Who owns to rights to the Enigma Variations titles... ;-) > -- > Bob. Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 21:17:34 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980209151959.006a9c6c@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 15:19:59 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: A few questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 493 Lines: 20 >Okay, and now for a slightly harder question to answer... > >Who owns to rights to the Enigma Variations titles... > >;-) Persona. Simon --- Simon **************************************************************************** ******** *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, nothing to* *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, sinking* **************************************************************************** ******** From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 21:17:53 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980209153641.006a17e8@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> X-Sender: scooke@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 15:36:41 +0000 To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no From: Simon Cooke Subject: Re: A few questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 608 Lines: 21 At 08:29 PM 2/9/98 GMT+0, you wrote: >> Persona. > >I was kind of hoping Bob would answer IYKWIM... *grins* Ahhh... I *seeeee*. *wonders* ... if people are, and I'm not insinuating at all that they are, no sirree, duplicating and distributing software illegally -- ie. they don't own the copyright... what's to stop us doing the same on NVG with aforementioned software, provided that the copyright holders do not come forth and say that they want the software not to be distributed? >ahem< >cough< Simon --- Simon *messagesfromclones,alteregos,orotherwisemadeupfakepersonastobaitpeople,will beignored* From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 21:17:53 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:29:42 GMT+0 Subject: Re: A few questions X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 716 Lines: 28 > >Okay, and now for a slightly harder question to answer... > > > >Who owns to rights to the Enigma Variations titles... > > > >;-) > > Persona. I was kind of hoping Bob would answer IYKWIM... > > Simon > --- > Simon > > **************************************************************************** > ******** > *Stranger in a strange land, stuck with the 'Merkin band, nowhere to go, > nothing to* > *do, gotta find out what's next for you, 'cos this ship's sinking, sinking, > sinking* > **************************************************************************** > ******** > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Mon Feb 9 21:17:54 1998 From: The Mad Goose Organization: University of Central Lancashire To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:52:31 GMT+0 Subject: Re: A few questions X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1285 Lines: 37 > >I was kind of hoping Bob would answer IYKWIM... > > *grins* Ahhh... I *seeeee*. > > *wonders* ... if people are, and I'm not insinuating at all that they are, > no sirree, duplicating and distributing software illegally -- ie. they > don't own the copyright... what's to stop us doing the same on NVG with > aforementioned software, provided that the copyright holders do not come > forth and say that they want the software not to be distributed? Sounds great - there are some really good games out there that people would no longer purchase, but that deserve to be seen. Why can't we see if we can make some of the stuff Shareware at the very least? Then the programmers might get a few quid thrown back in their direction. Would this be construed as killing the SAM? I mean, I'd hate to be accused of that **tongue firmly in cheek**! Well, I've put my best flameproof underpants on and I suggest you do the same ;-) I promise, I don't LIKE arguing, but it's more SAM related than stuff about PC processors and things...! > --- > Simon > > *messagesfromclones,alteregos,orotherwisemadeupfakepersonastobaitpeople,will > beignored* > Peace, Love, Kisses... Johnna Pig Teare JPOL: http://www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna "I just want my future to live up to my past..." From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 10 00:57:00 1998 From: Dean Liversidge Organization: The Factory To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:18:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... In-reply-to: <2c389497.34dac5ac@aol.com> Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2607 Lines: 72 [note this is a none SAM related message !!! ] > >substantial share of the market now, and to produce mboards that > >would in effect be INCOMPATIBLE with non-intel cpus seems like > >madness to me. The old Cyrix P150+ which runs at 75MHz * 2 is incompatable with a lot of older motherboards, but that didnt stop Cyrix creating it. The Intex FX/HX/VX/TX chipset that runs most motherboards is only specified to run at upto 66MHz, this is part of the problem overclocking the CPU to 75MHz, 83MHz, and yes on some motherboards 100MHz. Until these chips are replaced, >66MHz, is just a risk most us us are prepared to take. My i166-MMX runs quite nicely at 233MHz ( 66*3.5) which makes it a very cheap 233 chip! Another factor in overclocking is the memory and PCI subsystem, most 60ns memory simms only allow 66MHz, you need to go for Syncronous RAM to get the speeds up to 100MHz (just like my 64MB of SDIMMS ;-) ). The PCI bus design is only spec.'d to 33MHz which is taken from Clock Speed / 2. But this is the area that gives good benifit to system video performance, so no a 166Mhz @ 66*2.5 isnt the same as 83*2. > Did not quite follow all of that, but I agree AMD & Cyrix (and a few > others) are now giving Intel a run for their money. after doing technical support on most PC CPU's over the last 18months I and nearlt all of my colleges will agree that you cant beat an intel chip, yet! All the others still emulate FPU and in real world apps it still wins, no matter what some benchmarks may try to show. > Well..... :) Yes, I have (just don't tell my supplier) as I happened > to find a key that fitted. But, the board is jumperless so I can't > do anything there. Yes, I could short the CMOS and get round the > password on the bios but then I risk invalidating the warranty. > Never mind. When running Win3.1 it goes like the clappers. I'll get > the password when the year is up then I can start playing. Try some of the 'back-door' passwords, most BIOS's take them, but some revisions wont. Award Software: AWARD_SW Award_SW or variations AMI BIOS: AMI_SW AMI AMIBIOS case sensative. Oh, and ignore the waranty, it's not worth shite. If you need to clear the CMOS, no-one will no the difference when the motherboard dies anyway. All the defaults in the BIOS will get the machine running, all you will need to do is auto-detect the hard drive to LBA mode. -- Dean Liversidge dean@error.demon.co.uk d.liversidge@choice-peripherals.co.uk I suppose i could create myself a user name of GODofSAM@choice-peripherals.co.uk ( your right root access is kewl!) From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 10 00:57:00 1998 From: Dean Liversidge Organization: The Factory To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:48:13 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Zoiks! In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19980206222458.006a80a8@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 336 Lines: 11 > Hmmm...seems that Microsoft aren't averse to releasing their > FrontPage Web Server Extensions for Linux systems -- presumably they > work as CGI-Bin components. > > How groovy. They well and truly seem to be moving into the Unix > market. Presumably to annoy Sun. Next move > change it into there own format ! -- Dean Liversidge From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 10 07:57:02 1998 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:20:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Si Owen To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Subject: Re: Windows 95 Close Button Positioning In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980129081148.006bb540@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Message-ID: X-Organisation: Wordcraft International Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 768 Lines: 16 On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Simon Cooke wrote: > Because Microsoft have made the API's an order of magnitude better in Win95 > -- and it's flat 32-bit. It's just a shame that many 32-bit calls thunk back to 16-bit code to be executed - try tracing through 32-bit MessageBeep() and you'll end up back in 16-bit USER.EXE to make the beep! At least NT is fully 32-bit... Si /------------------------------------+----------------------------------------\ | Si Owen | Home: si@obobo.demon.co.uk | | Wordcraft International Ltd, UK | Work: sowen@wordcraft.co.uk | | Fax: +44-1332-295525 | WWW: www.obobo.demon.co.uk | \------------------------------------+----------------------------------------/ From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 10 08:40:23 1998 Message-Id: <199802100836.IAA12366@relais1.orctel.co.uk> From: David Zambonini To: sam-users Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:34:15 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 1799 Lines: 47 > The old Cyrix P150+ which runs at 75MHz * 2 is incompatable with a > lot of older motherboards, but that didnt stop Cyrix creating it. Still, I'm sure everybody loved upgrading their motherboards along with their processors. > The Intex FX/HX/VX/TX chipset that runs most motherboards is only > specified to run at upto 66MHz, this is part of the problem > overclocking the CPU to 75MHz, 83MHz, and yes on some motherboards > 100MHz. > Until these chips are replaced, >66MHz, is just a risk most us us are > prepared to take. Not really part of the problem. The old chipsets are indeed only specified to run at 66Mhz, but run fine at higher speeds. The problem lies elsewhere. Intel, of course, will not spec. them at over 66Mhz because their competitors use these higher speeds, whereas they do not..... > > Did not quite follow all of that, but I agree AMD & Cyrix (and a few > > others) are now giving Intel a run for their money. > > after doing technical support on most PC CPU's over the last 18months > I and nearlt all of my colleges will agree that you cant beat an > intel chip, yet! All the others still emulate FPU and in real world > apps it still wins, no matter what some benchmarks may try to show. This is indeed true. Although a K6 may outperform an Intel for non-FPU operations, Intel unfortunately still has the edge for floating point and MMX (still, they invented both formats, so what do you expect... ) > Dean Liversidge > dean@error.demon.co.uk > d.liversidge@choice-peripherals.co.uk > > I suppose i could create myself a user name of GODofSAM@choice-peripherals.co.uk > ( your right root access is kewl!) Especially for the ever-tempting command rm -R -f /* DMZ ( currently God@orctel.co.uk .... can somebody verify this :) ? ) --- From owner-sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Tue Feb 10 10:34:14 1998 Message-Id: <199802101029.KAA14593@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> From: Dave Hooper <9531427@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Organization: stripwax paranoia consultants To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:28:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Format and their selective publicity policy... References: <2c389497.34dac5ac@aol.com> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) X-Orcpt: rfc822;sam-users@nvg.unit.no Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.unit.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2015 Lines: 54 > > >substantial share of the market now, and to produce mboards that > > >would in effect be INCOMPATIBLE with non-intel cpus seems like > > >madness to me. > > The old Cyrix P150+ which runs at 75MHz * 2 is incompatable with a > lot of older motherboards, but that didnt stop Cyrix creating it. ah-hah. but i was talking about the route the other way around... manufacturers creating a new motherboard incompatible with many of the current CPUs which, especially when considered alongside your statement, is surely a step backwards. > Until these chips are replaced, >66MHz, is just a risk most us us are > prepared to take. .. then get a motherboard with a Via chipset instead of an intel one! > My i166-MMX runs quite nicely at 233MHz ( 66*3.5) which makes it a > very cheap 233 chip! crikey. nice one. any special precautions? i'm just surprised the 166 can go that far? > Another factor in overclocking is the memory and PCI subsystem, most > 60ns memory simms only allow 66MHz, you need to go for Syncronous RAM > to get the speeds up to 100MHz (just like my 64MB of SDIMMS ;-) ). yeh, but you're only doing 66 mhz anyway... well , whatever > The PCI bus design is only spec.'d to 33MHz which is taken from Clock > Speed / 2. But this is the area that gives good benifit to system > video performance, so no a 166Mhz @ 66*2.5 isnt the same as 83*2. well, PCI v2.1 specifies a maximum of 66Mhz... dunno if any cards fully implement it yet, but if you have a card compliant with PCI v2.1, and then run it on a standard PCI bus overclocked (eg, 75Mhz / 2) it's still within spec. > intel chip, yet! All the others still emulate FPU and in real world > apps it still wins, no matter what some benchmarks may try to show. .. despite the fact that many 'leading authorities' agree that the K6 is the fastest chip under Win95 (including FPU) ? > running, all you will need to do is auto-detect the hard drive to LBA > mode. ... assuming it's an LBA drive (you never know...)